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Darkside Rankings; 2015 FINAL

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and another DS Rankings comes to a conclusion...will we premier a post season version? Wait and see.

Thanks again to everyone who supported and read through this thread - to include Rambl. Doing this thread every week helps me keep a pulse on the state.

This week you simply get the list of teams and their ranking. Their records and accomplishments speak for themselves. I give some very basic analysis at the bottom. We look forward to addressing any critique

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet...cC26AE4lL5z68Ho28KTUUHfGk/edit#gid=1263828911

9.9 - Lincoln Way North: 9-0

9.1 - Phillips: 9-0

8.2 - HF: 8-1

7.6 - Rice: 8-1

6.9 - OPRF: 8-1

6.2 - NC: 8-1

5.3 - Bronco: 9-0

3.9 - Libertyville: 9-0

1.8 - GW: 9-0

WON.2 - LA: 9-0

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First off, congrats to LA, variant Hollywood for dethroning last year's champ, GW, variant Lucas. LA received eight 1st place votes and two 2nd place votes. The converse is true for runner-up GW. In the end, the voters found LA's wins over Rice and MC more impactful that GW's wins over OPRF and HC. Against what I consider all around similar competition, LA went PF: 379 and PA: 73 while GW went PF: 354 to PA: 111.

This year was an interesting year for the rankers for a reason dissimilar from year's past. Interestingly, we found it very difficult to rank the 5-10 teams and find nuance in them, than we did with the top five.

Not sure we really find out how good bronco is until the 6a title game. On paper, IMO, this is their easiest road to a title game. SHG, on the other hand, has a much more difficult path compared to their last 3. SHG's past has proven they can work their way through 6a however. Really wish SHG would play a team up north early in the year.

LWN is another anomaly. They found their way into the DSR two weeks ago thanks in large part to A) going undefeated and B) defeating an athletic throrton and rival LWW. There are a lot of 8-1 teams out there that could have found themselves in this spot....they all slipped up somewhere...bottom line LWN did not.

How about libertyville? Funny that libertyville's stock dropped along with rival stevenson's record.

Despite a decent DS rank, has NC really flown under the radar? NC's quadrant is crazy and is filled with teams ranked in the DS this season:: HC, NV and did we forget about brook?

I wrote Phillips off...but nope, they never left the Darkside....Congrats Phillips and beat Rocherster.

It's going to be a great 2015 playoffs. 1-32 in 7a and 8a is a great start to what i hope will be an all-class change next year.

But most importantly, congrats to the kids who played their hearts out this season, the parents who supported them, the volunteers who helped a homeless boy in a time of need, and the fans that root.

See you all in the Darkside.
 
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No doubt. Nice work all year on this JC.

As far as SHG, I believe the CS-8 is a 10-team conference that does not allow for non-con games. FYI.
 
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JCHILLTOPPERS said:
In the end, the voters found LA's wins over Rice and MC more impactful that GW's wins over OPRF and HC. Against what I consider all around similar competition, LA went PF: 379 and PA: 73 while GW went PF: 354 to PA: 111.
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Given blowouts and running clocks over the regular season those PF-PA comparisons are within the margin of error. Too bad these teams are not meeting up in the playoffs, but to fall back on an argument that the CCLB is a tougher conference than WSS is just not justified, and we really need these first few weeks of the playoffs to gauge the relative strengths of the various conferences. There were not enough good non-conference games between top conf teams this year. Except for NC-Batavia, the DVC schedule only gave games by non-playoff qualifiers WN and NN against non-DVC or UEC opponents.

What conclusions can be drawn from results below?
What was the most significant non-conference game of 2015 to help gauge relative strength of conferences?

LA 49 - MS 8
GW 28 - BHS 7
OPRF 14 - LWE 13
MC 21 - Marist 14
BR 49 - C-M 21 (and in week 9 we had PR 52 - C-M 33)
Batavia 36 - Oswego 28
Oswego 14 - PC 13
NC 34 - Batavia 14
H-F 43 - SHS 29
SHS 26 - PHS 24
LT 24 - Warren 0
ND 48 - ETHS 28
Thornton 24 - MP 6
MC 49 - MP 0
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Even though WSS #3 HC did not play as well as expected in week 8 and 9, the bottom line is that CCLB #3 MC has not defeated a playoff team since week 2 (which was Morgan Park). MC's other (or only) quality win was by a touchdown (21-14) over 5-4 Marist in week 1. They were not closer than 10 points behind either BR or LA in the 4th quarter.

I think MC is still a mystery (even to their supporters) as to what can be accomplished in the playoffs.
 
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JCHILLTOPPERS said:
congrats to LA, variant Hollywood for dethroning last year's champ, GW,
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I suppose I should leave well enough alone. But, I just gots to know if epic's HC and OPRF rankings of #4 and #9, respectively, were transposed or if he really intended to move a 7-2 HC from #6 last week to #4 this week after their 32 point loss to 8-1 OPRF.
 
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No doubt. Nice work all year on this JC.

As far as SHG, I believe the CS-8 is a 10-team conference that does not allow for non-con games. FYI.
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yes it is. i'd almost rather they forfeit one of them, drive north instead...
 
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Given blowouts and running clocks over the regular season those PF-PA comparisons are within the margin of error. Too bad these teams are not meeting up in the playoffs, but to fall back on an argument that the CCLB is a tougher conference than WSS is just not justified, and we really need these first few weeks of the playoffs to gauge the relative strengths of the various conferences. There were not enough good non-conference games between top conf teams this year. Except for NC-Batavia, the DVC schedule only gave games by non-playoff qualifiers WN and NN against non-DVC or UEC opponents.

What conclusions can be drawn from results below?
What was the most significant non-conference game of 2015 to help gauge relative strength of conferences?

LA 49 - MS 8
GW 28 - BHS 7
OPRF 14 - LWE 13
MC 21 - Marist 14
BR 49 - C-M 21 (and in week 9 we had PR 52 - C-M 33)
Batavia 36 - Oswego 28
Oswego 14 - PC 13
NC 34 - Batavia 14
H-F 43 - SHS 29
SHS 26 - PHS 24
LT 24 - Warren 0
ND 48 - ETHS 28
Thornton 24 - MP 6
MC 49 - MP 0
??

Even though WSS #3 HC did not play as well as expected in week 8 and 9, the bottom line is that CCLB #3 MC has not defeated a playoff team since week 2 (which was Morgan Park). MC's other (or only) quality win was by a touchdown (21-14) over 5-4 Marist in week 1. They were not closer than 10 points behind either BR or LA in the 4th quarter.

I think MC is still a mystery (even to their supporters) as to what can be accomplished in the playoffs.
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I think with GW/HC/OPRD the wss was the best conference this year. we've stated that a few times. I also agree with MC is still a bit of a mystery. I agree too, the PF - PA are more of general figures than anything to really rely on; and that the LA/GW PF/PA are within the margin of error.

I also can't ignore that eight voters had LA over GW. LA beat teams very similarly to the way GW beat teams last year. While the CCL is down, it is still probably the third best conference this season, and LA didn't even have a scare - there simply is not a blemish. I contrast that with the - basically - one possession game GW played against HC, who lost to OPRF when full powered, something they were not when they lost a close game to GW....note, it is for all these reasons, too, that GW received two 1st place votes as well.
 
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While no one can argue the dominance LA showed this year over ALL their opponents, GW played HC without key guys that stop Bobak's straight up the gut 50 yd TDs, so you can't say HC was short handed without acknowledging GW's injuries as well. Not sure who HC was missing because there was no word of any injuries about HC here.

And GW destroyed, I mean destroyed OPRF who did have an injured QB the week before the GW game. The same OPRF that destroyed HC with the same QB that played against GW.

This final vote was a foregone conclusion. I begrudge zero to LA, but stop acting like GW didn't manhandle HC in the 2nd half of that game. When the game was on the line, Brodner steamrolled HC for a game sealing TD for the final 11 pt margin.

Cheers to all for your efforts through the year. This is always can't miss reading . .
 
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capnbillhitters said:
pfffft

While no one can argue the dominance LA showed this year over ALL their opponents, GW played HC without key guys that stop Bobak's straight up the gut 50 yd TDs, so you can't say HC was short handed without acknowledging GW's injuries as well. Not sure who HC was missing because there was no word of any injuries about HC here.

And GW destroyed, I mean destroyed OPRF who did have an injured QB the week before the GW game. The same OPRF that destroyed HC with the same QB that played against GW.

This final vote was a foregone conclusion. I begrudge zero to LA, but stop acting like GW didn't manhandle HC in the 2nd half of that game. When the game was on the line, Brodner steamrolled HC for a game sealing TD for the final 11 pt margin.

Cheers to all for your efforts through the year. This is always can't miss reading . .
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HC was at full strength vs. GW....and OPRF other than OL-man that got kicked out in 1st half.
 
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