Defending Damien Harris and The Decision ?

mrhotdice

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All those wishing him luck need to have their heads examined. I wish I'm no luck, I hope he is buried behind the other great backs at BAMA already, and as far as I am concerned, he used UK, Kentucky, the uk players, and anyone else he could find. Have no respect for a user.
 

UKWinsAgainYep

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I could care less about him.....The way he toyed with UK fans' emotions for months is unbelievable.
 

dallasg23

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Grow up people. Quit whining about something that you can't control. He made a business decision. It's all about the dollar signs when you're the number one prospect in your postion. Kentucky football and Alabama football is like deciding between Lamborghini and ford right now. Both nice cars and have their pros and cons but if given to you for free which are you gonna choose hah
 

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Originally posted by dallasg23:
Grow up people. Quit whining about something that you can't control. He made a business decision. It's all about the dollar signs when you're the number one prospect in your postion. Kentucky football and Alabama football is like deciding between Lamborghini and ford right now. Both nice cars and have their pros and cons but if given to you for free which are you gonna choose hah
Yeah, and you are cool with the past performance of each program....as long as there them baskeeeball team is winning, people like you are cool with writing **** like this. hah
 
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Originally posted by Lempface:
Everyone who thinks Damien Harris strung along the UK coaches, please consider this.

I decided I wanted to marry my wife after we were together for 3 months, however I waited longer than that before I asked, just to make sure. If I would have ended it, it wouldn't have meant I was stringing her along.

It is not always so black and white, although it is easy to go there in one's disappointment. We don't know for sure that Damien was 100% dedicated 1.5 months ago, and then just used UK. I think he realized the magnitude of the decision and just wanted it to rest on his mind for several weeks just to make sure it still felt right.

I, for one, won't bash the kid off an assumption. I'm as disappointed as anyone, but that doesn't mean he did anything wrong. Does it make you feel better to think in that manner?
Were you telling "another woman" the same thing? If not then your situation is not comparable!
 

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we missed out on DW, but we still have a star in the making and will only be a sophmore "Boom" Williams! And I for 1 am very excited about this kid,
 

Lempface

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Originally posted by Hoskins91:
Getting pissed about it is incredibly petty. He's a 17 year old making a big decision. He didn't handle it in a way you like, I doubt he'll lose sleep over it. He didn't owe the fans or the coaching staff anything. Some of you need to get a life.
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IndyCat74

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Originally posted by Lempface:


Originally posted by Hoskins91:
Getting pissed about it is incredibly petty. He's a 17 year old making a big decision. He didn't handle it in a way you like, I doubt he'll lose sleep over it. He didn't owe the fans or the coaching staff anything. Some of you need to get a life.
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Just because he is 17 doesnt make what he did any less wrong. You're taught at a young age that lying is wrong and is frowned upon. If he knew his decision was made in November then why continue to lie to everyone and say he has not made a decision? Regardless of his age, playing games just plain wrong.
 

Lempface

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Originally posted by rexfan1:
Originally posted by Lempface:


Originally posted by Hoskins91:
Getting pissed about it is incredibly petty. He's a 17 year old making a big decision. He didn't handle it in a way you like, I doubt he'll lose sleep over it. He didn't owe the fans or the coaching staff anything. Some of you need to get a life.
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Just because he is 17 doesnt make what he did any less wrong. You're taught at a young age that lying is wrong and is frowned upon. If he knew his decision was made in November then why continue to lie to everyone and say he has not made a decision? Regardless of his age, playing games just plain wrong.
This is assuming we understand his decision process, which no one knows. It just makes it easier to stomach. "He didn't pick us... so he is a jerk and a immoral asshat."
 

ukbowl2006

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Never knew this guy was a criminal mastermind capable of completely bushwacking an entire football program, including coaches paid millions of dollars. It's really quite impressive.

Or he's just a 17 year old who made selfish decisions in order to have a little fun. Stop getting wound up about teenage boys, your life will be better for it.
 

ukgolfnut36

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I don't care where he went it was the way he played our coaches an fans,standind in Cat walk so Stoops could see him in his ,Why Not tee shirt having fans asking for autographs,if he had any care for UK an Coaqsh Stoops he would have told 6 weeks ago where he was going but no he wanted those good basketball tics an free food,very selfish of him
 

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Originally posted by Lempface:
Everyone who thinks Damien Harris strung along the UK coaches, please consider this.

I decided I wanted to marry my wife after we were together for 3 months, however I waited longer than that before I asked, just to make sure. If I would have ended it, it wouldn't have meant I was stringing her along.

It is not always so black and white, although it is easy to go there in one's disappointment. We don't know for sure that Damien was 100% dedicated 1.5 months ago, and then just used UK. I think he realized the magnitude of the decision and just wanted it to rest on his mind for several weeks just to make sure it still felt right.

I, for one, won't bash the kid off an assumption. I'm as disappointed as anyone, but that doesn't mean he did anything wrong. Does it make you feel better to think in that manner?
Pics of wife?

Then we can all debate whether you made the right decision.
 

ukflyguy

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Originally posted by K_TIME:

Originally posted by mdlUK.1:


Originally posted by K_TIME:
I just don't fall into the camp that there is a problem with a kid making a decision to go out of Ky to a better football program. If he'd have de-committed that would be different. But he picked Michigan, then very early de-commits from them and visits UK a bunch, tweets out plenty of good vibe about UK as well as Ohio St and Bama. Takes a visit to bama on Thanksgiviing and makes an announcement on Jan 9th. Outside of a making his decision apparently 1.5 months earlier...I can't see what he did wrong to make people upset.
Duh, making the decision 1.5 months ago IS the issue. How hard is that to understand?

Most of us are sad that he chose Bama but completely understand. He did what his heart told him. No one can fault him for that. But to drag it out like he did, giving the impression that UK was still right there when they weren't? That's BS.

As late as yesterday he was saying NO DECISION had been made. Today he says he chose Bama after the Iron Bowl. And you can't understand why UK fans might have a problem with that?
1. Maybe the visit for Iron Bowl pushed him from UK to Bama was 1.5 months ago. Maybe he wanted to visit UK after the Iron bowl to see if it would change him and it didn't. I don't like that he didn't come UK's way, but I don't feel like hating on Harris for his decision.
2. Even if Harris verbals to Bama on first week of December after his Iron Bowl trip...exactly which RB are we missing out upon in 6 weeks time? To be fair...we've missed out on back a long time before Thanksgiving that choose other schools and UK focusing on Harris. A simple decision first week of December didn't leave us hanging out to dry in past 6 weeks.
3. We aren't hurting for RB (even though Harris would play ahead of all current RB besides possibly Boom). Our true problems at UK are DL, Offensive Tackles, DB that can cover and maybe a big play WR. RB isn't what is holding UK down the next 3 years with Boom around...that kid showed he can play bigtime ball and maybe Horton will be a good compliment for a physical back.
Harris was never coming to Kentucky
 

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First: I'm a Ky Football fan. I don't give a rat about any other sport at UK unless the bball team is winning in late March. Football is the sport of all sports. That said, while disappointed in his decision, I can't find anything Harris did that was wrong, immoral, etc...

As for why he waited if he knew his choice would be Bama...maybe he knew but we don't know where his mother stood. Maybe she was instrumental in his delaying making an official decision thinking/hoping he would choose Ky. That may not be an accurate explanation, but IMO it is more likely than the possibility he simply wanted to hurt our program. We may never know why he waited, and it's really none of our business.
This post was edited on 1/10 4:45 PM by ram1955
 

optimus-blue

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Very proud of UK fans today, while eating at Malones during the basketball game, Harris walked in with his ALA gear on, not one fan said a word to him and left him alone.

This post was edited on 1/10 5:18 PM by optimus-blue
 

Shydog

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Season ticket holder who likes BB and FB at UK. Season tic holder in FB. Personally I think DH loved UK FB and Coach Stoops but was swept off his feet by bama! What young fb player wouldn't get excited about the chance to play rb for probably the #1 program in the country now and also historically. Yes DH shoulda let the KY coaches know if his mind was made up but he is 17 for heavans sake!!! Maybe he wasn't sure or maybe he just dreaded telling Stoops, who knows.I hope he succeeds at Bama, I will follow his career and pull for him when he is not playing the Cats. I will follow/cheer for Boom JoJo and crew more!!!
 

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Originally posted by optimus-blue:
Very proud of UK fans today, while eating at Malones in during the basketball game, Harris walked in with his ALA gear on, not one fan said a word to him and left him alone.
#Why Not!!...He no longer belongs to KENTUCKY...Bye-Bye...
 

jes95407

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As much as I wanted him at UK, he made the best decision for him and I don't think UK was ever really in it after Bama came calling, but...ever think Stoops staff knew they were never really in it and DH wasn't necessary stringing the staff along but doing Stoops a favor and giving UK football good publicity by putting the perception out there that they were in his top 3. You never really know...
 

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^^^^^^^^^^ He wasn't doing Stoops any favors,Stoops was not told the truth by the Harris camp, getting beat out at the last second is not good at all. The kid didn't make a good choice but we will have to wait and see who is right but by that time nobody will care.Stoops doesn't need the publicity but it sounded like the Harris camp did.

This post was edited on 1/11 1:03 AM by optimus-blue
 

jes95407

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Sorry, I think going to down to the wire with Alabama and Ohio St for the nations top running back does reflect good on UK/Stoops...it sure beats the days of getting beat out by Marshall and Vandy for some 2 star recruit. Look, Its a sign of change in the program that the Cats are playing big boy football now and NO recruit (no matter how high he's ranked) is off the table. And yes, Stoops/UK FB do need the all the publicity they can get to generate hype/interest in the program until they can get it to the point where the program starts selling itself by its own successes.

This post was edited on 1/11 7:34 AM by js40484
 

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...it sure beats the days of getting beat out by Marshall and Vandy for some 2 star recruit.

You're right, js. Many posters on this board appear to hold Coach Claibourne in very high regard and rightfully so. However, I remember during his years , on signing day I'd turn on every radio show I could find that was talking about the players Ky signed. More often than not, we'd sign players that had offers from schools like Miami of Ohio, Bowling Green, etc... At least now we're drawing the interest of players recognized by the power schools. IMO, you can tell more about a recruit by the schools that are recruiting him than about anything the recruiting gurus might say.
 

mrhotdice

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You can't defend a traitor. I wish him no luck, if he fails so be it, as in the Godfather, Harris is dead to me now.

Time UK fans stop rolling over.
 

optimus-blue

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Losing players at the last second does not help the program, another loser menatilty post. UK would have got better publicity getting 4 star RB Hall who they could gave gotten, it's only good pubicity when you get a recurit, Joker almost got Lamar Dawson or so they said at time.
 

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^^^^^ Agree. No hatred at all for the kid but could care less about his "career". If he is not for us, he is against us. I only hope the threads about him will end! I also have ZERO respect for the "fans" who root for UK in basketball but root for some other established winning program in football. Please stay away from the football board. I'm all in with Cal and Stoops!
 
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Originally posted by mdlUK.1:

Originally posted by Lempface:
Everyone who thinks Damien Harris strung along the UK coaches, please consider this.

I decided I wanted to marry my wife after we were together for 3 months, however I waited longer than that before I asked, just to make sure. If I would have ended it, it wouldn't have meant I was stringing her along.

It is not always so black and white, although it is easy to go there in one's disappointment. We don't know for sure that Damien was 100% dedicated 1.5 months ago, and then just used UK. I think he realized the magnitude of the decision and just wanted it to rest on his mind for several weeks just to make sure it still felt right.

I, for one, won't bash the kid off an assumption. I'm as disappointed as anyone, but that doesn't mean he did anything wrong. Does it make you feel better to think in that manner?
He said YESTERDAY, e'ffing YESTERDAY, that no decision had been made. That was obviously a lie. At the very least, he should have told the UK coaches that he was a Bama lean. Instead, he DID string them along. From all I have read, the UK coaches felt like he was leaning toward UK.
^^mdlUK.1 is right on the button here... It seems either you are only BB UK fans or are in denial. The kid strung us along and could have hampered our RB recruiting. Good thing we have a damn good backfield right now as is. I don't wish the kid luck or no luck.. I simply don't care about his career anymore. He lied and strung our football team and coaching staff along for an extra 1.5 months.
 
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Originally posted by EclipsingYou:
I agree with everybody else.

He said YESTERDAY that no decision was made only to laught about the fact that he made his decision 6 weeks ago TODAY.

I hate to use terms like "sabotage", but for the life of me I cannot think of a better explanation.

This cost us Darrin Hall, IMO. All for a small shot at getting some PT 3 years from now at Bama.
. (SORRY CANT MAKE THE PERIOD ANY BIGGER)
 

jes95407

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Loser mentality post? Did I want DH at UK? YES! Would it have been a HUGE get if DH had chose UK? Yes. I think we all agree with that. My point is that UK FB is still better off being in the conversation than not being in the conversation which is the only debatable point and the only positive take away at this stage in the DH game. Everything else is just crying over spilled milk. The only loser mentality posts are those crucifying a 17 year old who chose the Best FB program in the country. Its a business not Pop Warner. And as far as what UK was "led to believe"...We want to act like we are "in the know" because we follow the message boards, the paper, interviews, twitter, etc. Were not. I love to read the tea leaves as much as anybody, but what really goes on behind closed doors between a recruits camp and a coach doesn't make it to your ears...quit kidding yourself. For all we know, UK could have known all along that they were a backup plan to a potential Bama situation/offer...would UK have ever made that public? No, of course not...why would they? And btw, there is NO way, Stoops wasn't/isn't "all in" on a DH backup plan (if he sees that as a current need), and if he isn't then we've got much bigger problems than a DH recruiting loss.

This post was edited on 1/11 9:41 AM by js40484

This post was edited on 1/11 9:49 AM by js40484
 

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^^^^^ Agree. No hatred at all for the kid but could care less about his "career". If he is not for us, he is against us. I only hope the threads about him will end! I also have ZERO respect for the "fans" who root for UK in basketball but root for some other established winning program in football. Please stay away from the football board. I'm all in with Cal and Stoops!
Agreed. Besides your last sentence.
 

brianpoe

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It seems to me that there are 2 different ways to look at Damien's decision. Everyone has to agree that he needed to make the decision that he thought was best for him. There can be no argument about that. The real issue is after that decision was made, he owed it to Mark Stoops and his staff to be up front with them so they could move on to a plan B.
By his OWN ADMISSION he decided on his official visit to Bama that is where he was going to play his college football. There in comes the rub. After he clearly stated he had made his decision, he moved his announcement date back 2 more times. That is what everybody is so upset about. If that does not prove 100% that he was enjoying all of this attention and fan fare he was getting at the expense of the UK coaches who had spent 1000's of hour recruiting him, then I do not know what else to say. He clearly and blatantly played the UK coaches so as for the adulation to continue. For anyone to try to defend him for those actions is simply not thinjking clearly or rationally. In the last 6 weeks, UK could have had Darrin Hall in the fold by now, but that was not made possible because Damien Harris wanted it to be all about him, much to the disservice to the UK coaching staff. For that reason, for anyone to wish him well is out of their mind. Was he wishing UK well and helping them when he knowingly was not honest and up front with them ? Of course he was not. His actions and his own words speak clearly to the fact that he was thinking only of his own self interests. I deem it pathetic given the way UK treated him through out this recruiting process.



Hilarious - Harris doesn't owe CMS squat.

CMS owes all of us an apology.

This product after 4 years is awful.


We will be lucky if any top player ALLOWS us to recruit them as of now.

As of today we couldn't beg a 4 or 5 star to lead us on, is this better?
 

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I know this will ruffle some feathers but if you'll notice the people who seem to be "fine" with Harris committing to Bama are usually the basketball-first Kentucky fans that casually follow UK football in their spare time. It's the true football fans that are upset (as they should be after the way he strung along his home state when he knew what he was going to do for over a month)
Or the people who know how recruiting works. We've gotten plenty of kids in basketball who have done this to their home state. The truth is you don't care unless he doesn't come here, and it's just because you are a sore loser.
 
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^^^^^ Agree. No hatred at all for the kid but could care less about his "career". If he is not for us, he is against us. I only hope the threads about him will end! I also have ZERO respect for the "fans" who root for UK in basketball but root for some other established winning program in football. Please stay away from the football board. I'm all in with Cal and Stoops!
Go Big Blue in b-ball.. Roll Tide in football.. ;)
 
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buckkiller

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Sttinging staff along sucked but made right decision. Maybe if Petrino was coach we would of landed him. Who knows kids a strong back no doubt
 

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Moving forward I think it's best that we assume any player with an offer to Alabama is not going to choose UK until we at least prove to be somewhat relevant. Lord knows I wouldn't turn down a Bama football scholarship to join this circus show.