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EERs 3:16

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massive decline in the middle class. Well that's fine, but, who has been in office for the past 6+ years?
 
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Trickle down economics isn't working. "Job creators" aren't providing pay raises. Corporate profits are the highest in 50 years (and don't get me wrong, I love it because of my stocks) and yet wages are stagnant. I'll agree on one thing with you Bible thumpers; man is inherently bad or sinful (greedy). There's the proof.
 

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Trickle down economics isn't working. "Job creators" aren't providing pay raises. Corporate profits are the highest in 50 years (and don't get me wrong, I love it because of my stocks) and yet wages are stagnant. I'll agree on one thing with you Bible thumpers; man is inherently bad or sinful (greedy). There's the proof.

The job creators are now saddled with increasing regulations and now have to provide health insurance for their full time employees? How has the PPACA impacted the job market?
 

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massive decline in the middle class. Well that's fine, but, who has been in office for the past 6+ years?

Manufacturing jobs have been leaving the country for decades. It used to be that you could graduate HS and if you got a job at a local plant you had a good paying job for life. That's all gone now, and that has barely changed at all in the last 6 years.
 

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The job creators are now saddled with increasing regulations and now have to provide health insurance for their full time employees?

I realize you're just trolling (or at least I hope that's what you're doing), but those great middle class jobs already had health care benefits, so this isn't a new thing to them.
 
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The job creators are now saddled with increasing regulations and now have to provide health insurance for their full time employees? How has the PPACA impacted the job market?

With all due respect, don't complain about regulations and the ACA when profits are at a 50-year high.
 

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With all due respect, don't complain about regulations and the ACA when profits are at a 50-year high.

With all due respect, until you own and run a business and have to pay for those regulations and pay for healthcare for your employees don't be so quick with your generalizations.
 
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Must be why small businesses continue to shut their door.

Small businesses (less than 50 employees) don't have to provide health care insurance, genius. And btw, I was once a small business owner. You guys get so off course trying to toe the party line; you make illogical conclusions.
 

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Small businesses (less than 50 employees) don't have to provide health care insurance, genius. And btw, I was once a small business owner. You guys get so off course trying to toe the party line; you make illogical conclusions.
I was referencing your profits at a 50 year high comment. I understand about small business implications, I own two.
 

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Small businesses (less than 50 employees) don't have to provide health care insurance, genius. And btw, I was once a small business owner. You guys get so off course trying to toe the party line; you make illogical conclusions.

We don't have to, but we tend to want to. Running a small business during the past 6 years has been a hellish ride and not profitable at all.

This has nothing to do with toeing a party line, it has to do with reality.
 

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We don't have to, but we tend to want to. Running a small business during the past 6 years has been a hellish ride and not profitable at all.

This has nothing to do with toeing a party line, it has to do with reality.
You can easily identify those who have invested their time and assets into developing an idea they had and those who just want a ride. Profits are good for those who are successful, and they are not plowing those profits back into their business. Why? IMO, it is because of the uncertainty of this business unfriendly administration. It is fairly common to hear of the trillion(s?) that are sitting on the side-lines. They have the "bird in the bush", why should they reinvest that into uncertainty? At the time Obama was elected, reinvestment nearly stopped. They wanted to see the impact of higher taxes, Obamacare, climate investment, etc. They have learned that they can do well with supplying the demand without expansion - maybe better as demand increases and no capacity to produce more.

At this point, I do not see more investment without some kind of government inducement probably related to equipment and employment. Cap Gains tax reduced, depreciation incentives, govt sharing in cost of employment? People have just become accustomed to the government giving inducement to move off dime. New breed of execs?