Did Elam even play?
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That is probably a very accurate statement. Elam needed a strong stern presence as a freshman to make him realize how much work he had to do and I'm not sure Elliot would have been that kind of coach.
K time, I agree with you. I know its easy to say after the fact but it was VERY obvious that he was too heavy and too out of shape to make a real difference his freshman year so I think he missed a great opportunity to play at the next level by NOT red shirting.
Two years ago maybe, glad you guys have come around.
And Willie, you are right about the O-line, which is where Bama and Louisville were recruiting him and why he did not commit to Bama. I know he was never coming to Louisville, I did not think it was a bad thing he didn't. He just doesn't have the skill set to play DT, never did.
Agreed. I think Matt has worked hard to do as much as he can. He was rated as a 5 star because he was good a single thing. Unfortunately UK needs him to be a play maker and not a space eater.
They don't ask him to get stats. They ask him to occupy blockers and keep the linebackers clean. He's not in there to blow plays up by making the big tackle.
Look, I think UL fans are babies when they don't have to be crybabies. I think that is the greatest affirmation of the little brother syndrome. Your team is dramatically better than UK, but you still act like you get no respect and feel the need to tear down your big brother at every turn. I am not saying the little brother claim is factual, but UL message board posters make the case every single day of the year.
I don't think Bama was recruiting Elam to the OLine. I think that is wrong. I think it typical for fans to think that someone, especially someone with height, who is not cutting it on defense line should move to OLine. Especially UL fans, because they remember Howard repeatedly doing that. I too thought Elam would end up on the OLine, but now that I see him, I do not think he would make a good OLineman.
He reminds me of one of those kids that got forced into football because of his size and strength, but really does not like the sport. Never looks to me like he wants to be on the field.
He was wildly overrated in HS because he was competing against inferior Kentucky schoolboy competition. But, man, he's really been exposed as a fraud at the college level. Way too soft, way too slow, way too apathetic.
He was wildly overrated in HS because he was competing against inferior Kentucky schoolboy competition. But, man, he's really been exposed as a fraud at the college level. Way too soft, way too slow, way too apathetic.
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This is correct. Here are some of his rankings in high school:
247Sports - 9th overall and No. 2 at DT
Rivals - three-star and No. 26 at DT
ESPN - 292nd overall and No. 24 at DT
Scout - No. 12 among DT's
To be fair, Elam may have been GREAT at Bama if you factor in the All-SEC and/or All-American players on either side of him at DE and behind him at LB (football is a TEAM sport).
And a 4 star on some services and a 5 star on others. Are we only to use Rivals? I don't see them as any more accurate than the others. I've always felt 247's rankings are the closest personally.
I've made that same point on several occasions. Elam was considered a great prospect by some because he was really good at keeping blockers off the LBs behind him not because he could make plays himself. At Bama he might actually look like an All American. At UK keeping blockers off our LBs doesn't really do much as Love isn't making plays whether he is blocked or not. Elam doesn't have the support behind him to make him look good.
Doubt it. You think saban has a magic elixor for him to drink and magically become quicker?
Saban has guys transferring out all the time like any other coach does.
The kid burned his redshirt. His sophomore year he was still out of shape and under coached based on weight and poor technique.
I don't think he's too bad this year. We have little at DE/DT in his support.
Is he getting doubled? No.
Will he be awesome? No.
But at this time, I'll take solid - and I think he can get there by year's end.
I don't think he's too bad this year. We have little at DE/DT in his support.
Is he getting doubled? No.
Will he be awesome? No.
But at this time, I'll take solid - and I think he can get there by year's end.
All services miss on kids and clearly that kid was at best a 3 star. He's always been ineffective and even those who made excuses over excuses for his bad play have pretty much stopped. DL have to be disruptive and he's never been even against FCS teams.