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Original Mountaineer1

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Apparently the school officer didn't actually kill the Maryland school shooter. He committed suicide apparently. CNN.com reported it. I don't see it on Foxnews.com (it might be on back pages or I may have missed it.) But in this case, the suicide doesn't really help with the right's theory of the officer taking out the shooter....good guy with a gun shoots bad guy with a gun. Therefore I don't see the story. The left leaning CNN reports it. Foxnews.com is showing a story of Al Sharpton's half brother being charged with murder in Alabama. Don't see that on CNN. Sharpton is too big of a player for CNN to embarrass him??? Maybe the news isn't really news? I don't know.

Just a reminder for all of to recognize that paying too much attention to a single news source isn't a very good idea unless you enjoy being manipulated
 
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Original Mountaineer1 said:
Apparently the school officer didn't actually kill the Maryland school shooter. He committed suicide apparently. CNN.com reported it. I don't see it on Foxnews.com (it might be on back pages or I may have missed it.) But in this case, the suicide doesn't really help with the right's theory of the officer taking out the shooter....good guy with a gun shoots bad guy with a gun. Therefore I don't see the story. The left leaning CNN reports it. Foxnews.com is showing a story of Al Sharpton's half brother being charged with murder in Alabama. Don't see that on CNN. Sharpton is too big of a player for CNN to embarrass him??? Maybe the news isn't really news? I don't know.

Just a reminder for all of to recognize that paying too much attention to a single news source isn't a very good idea unless you enjoy being manipulated
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First thing I read said they didn't know if the officer killed him or if it was self-inflicted. Could be that the officer shot at him and the perp knew his time was up and shot himself. Either way I'll take the outcome.
 
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rog1187 said:
Either way I'll take the outcome.
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Either way, when confronted by armed response, the shooter made the choice to end his own life. Something that is not uncommon in these scenarios.

And I heard on Fox News that he shot himself.
 
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Mntneer said:
Either way, when confronted by armed response, the shooter made the choice to end his own life. Something that is not uncommon in these scenarios.

And I heard on Fox News that he shot himself.
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I am glad he offed himself. Saved the officer a lawsuit for wrongful death. I was only pointing out the differences in the reporting.
 
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Original Mountaineer1 said:
Apparently the school officer didn't actually kill the Maryland school shooter. He committed suicide apparently. CNN.com reported it. I don't see it on Foxnews.com (it might be on back pages or I may have missed it.) But in this case, the suicide doesn't really help with the right's theory of the officer taking out the shooter....good guy with a gun shoots bad guy with a gun. Therefore I don't see the story. The left leaning CNN reports it. Foxnews.com is showing a story of Al Sharpton's half brother being charged with murder in Alabama. Don't see that on CNN. Sharpton is too big of a player for CNN to embarrass him??? Maybe the news isn't really news? I don't know.

Just a reminder for all of to recognize that paying too much attention to a single news source isn't a very good idea unless you enjoy being manipulated
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Heard it on FoxNews. Not much discussion that he brought a pistol into the school instead of an assault weapon though. Interesting reporting indeed.
 
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Not defending CNN because it appears this Hogg kid might be an opportunist (might be) and they should have corrected him but you linked the speech where Wayne Lapierre said it was your God-given right to carry a firearm (not a direct quote) and I didn't hear a single Fox reporter call him out for that stupid and completely false statement. Yet they played it. What is the difference?
 
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Original Mountaineer1 said:
Not defending CNN because it appears this Hogg kid might be an opportunist (might be) and they should have corrected him but you linked the speech where Wayne Lapierre said it was your God-given right to carry a firearm (not a direct quote) and I didn't hear a single Fox reporter call him out for that stupid and completely false statement. Yet they played it. What is the difference?
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Wait, are you saying that whole rights endowed by your creator thing is false?
 
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Original Mountaineer1 said:
You are kidding right? It has been a while since I read my Bible but I don't recall anything there saying we had the right to possess guns.
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Maybe you should re-read it:

Luke 22:36 - And He said to them, "But now, the one having a purse, let him take it, and likewise a bag; and the one having no sword, let him sell his cloak and buy one.
 
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Original Mountaineer1 said:
You are kidding right? It has been a while since I read my Bible but I don't recall anything there saying we had the right to possess guns.
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I don’t read the damn thing either. I don’t recognize the Christian god though I do recognize a higher power.

I’m referring to THE founding document of our nation, the Declaration in which all other aspects of our Republic are derived including the Constitution and Bill of Rights. I argue our rights are in fact guaranteed by our creator, whichever one you so choose to acknowledge. Our rights are not bestowed upon us by Govt, they are declared to our Govt and the 2nd amendment is the forcing mechanism to ensure that delicate balance never tips out of favor.
 
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Brushy Bill said:
Maybe you should re-read it:

Luke 22:36 - And He said to them, "But now, the one having a purse, let him take it, and likewise a bag; and the one having no sword, let him sell his cloak and buy one.
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I don't see gun mentioned in that passage. Could you circle and highlight it for me?
 
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I don't think the officer played much of a role in him killing himself. I think he had made up him mind to do that well in advance. Killing your ex and yourself isn't exactly rare. Doing it in a school is, but not something you wouldn't expect to happen at some point.

I think that I read the officer was able to respond and fire his weapon in about 3 minutes. That's great, but a gunman with, lets say, an AR-15 would have the opportunity to kill a lot of people in three minutes if that is what they really wanted to do.

I love guns, I have a bunch of them. However, we need to make it a lot easier to deny or confiscate guns from people who pose a danger, at least for the period where they pose that danger. I don't think banning any certain type of weapon is an effective approach given the sheer number that are available currently.

Nothing is going to eliminate gun violence, but this would be an effective tool in many circumstances.
 
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DvlDog4WVU said:
I don’t read the damn thing either. I don’t recognize the Christian god though I do recognize a higher power.

I’m referring to THE founding document of our nation, the Declaration in which all other aspects of our Republic are derived including the Constitution and Bill of Rights. I argue our rights are in fact guaranteed by our creator, whichever one you so choose to acknowledge. Our rights are not bestowed upon us by Govt, they are declared to our Govt and the 2nd amendment is the forcing mechanism to ensure that delicate balance never tips out of favor.
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You are confusing the Declaration of Independence with the US Constitution.
 
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countryroads89 said:
You are confusing the Declaration of Independence with the US Constitution.
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No, I wasn’t. I knew exactly which document I was quoting. I even said which document I was quoting for it was the document which spawned our nation and made the Constitution and Bill of Rights possible. Our rights are not bestowed to us from Govt. our rights are bestowed by our creator, simply being born here entitles us to them. They aren’t a gift, they aren’t something that can be taken away, unless we let them be. It’s very simple.
 
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Original Mountaineer1 said:
I don't see gun mentioned in that passage. Could you circle and highlight it for me?
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How about this passge which the Founders were well aware of:

Matthew 6:24 New International Version (NIV)
24 “No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both God and money.

So if you're a Socialist in love with Government, or even a Capitalist in love with money & power...that will be your "God". The Founders knew Yaweh God was above both Government and money...which they also knew both could easily be manipulated to control otherwise Free humans.

So they placed checks and balances into Government to keep it from becoming too powerful, and gave the People the right to limit its control over them. Therefore you cannot serve two Masters.

Socialists and some Capitalists love their power through Government or wealth (or both) more than they honor Almighty God. This is the heart of our ongoing struggle & battle for Freedom from both...over bearing Government and ruling elites who control it.
 
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DvlDog4WVU said:
No, I wasn’t. I knew exactly which document I was quoting. I even said which document I was quoting for it was the document which spawned our nation and made the Constitution and Bill of Rights possible. Our rights are not bestowed to us from Govt. our rights are bestowed by our creator, simply being born here entitles us to them. They aren’t a gift, they aren’t something that can be taken away, unless we let them be. It’s very simple.
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Well stated.
 
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DvlDog4WVU said:
Our rights are not bestowed upon us by Govt, they are declared to our Govt and the 2nd amendment is the forcing mechanism to ensure that delicate balance never tips out of favor.
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How much Freedom would the Left allow us if we turned over our guns? Look how much they take away already and we are armed to the teeth!

Better yet, look where they already use Government to run things without any armed opposition. Pick any Socialist utopia currently in operation.

Do 'ya really want to trust them with no way to stop them at the point of a gun if they go full Socialist here in America beyond where they are right now restricting our Freedoms?

Not me!

Keeping my gun locked and loaded.
 
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I was wondering why it wasn’t talked about more.

For the right- bad man with a gun wasn’t stopped by good man with a gun

For the left- pistol not an “assault weapon”
 
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countryroads89 said:
All of our rights come from the US Constitution.

You think some imaginary being is going to make a law giving us a new right or more rights? Good luck with that.
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and there is something called " our creator" in the preamble and constitution......He is not imaginary...I speak with him often...(guess that makes me mentally ill too)......He's real...and He loves you
 
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Mntneer said:
Either way, when confronted by armed response, the shooter made the choice to end his own life. Something that is not uncommon in these scenarios.

And I heard on Fox News that he shot himself.
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Based on the motive, there are far more that commit the murders and turn the gun on themselves before ever facing an armed response. Perhaps not in "school shootings" (I don't really categorize this one as that) but in similar situations of jealousy/betrayal of a spouse or girlfriend.
 
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Brushy Bill said:
Maybe you should re-read it:

Luke 22:36 - And He said to them, "But now, the one having a purse, let him take it, and likewise a bag; and the one having no sword, let him sell his cloak and buy one.
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is "sword" pronounced "gun" now? It's been awhile since I've been in an english class
 
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