Disastrous Weekend for UK bowl prospects

LeonThe Camel

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And the 'feel' will be even worse come 'minor' bowl time, if we end the season with a L to Georgia, a L to UT, a W against AP is given, and a L to UL. Not a very positive ending any way you look at it. Then, a potential (who knows) loss in a bowl game, and the season could feel to some as somewhat of a disaster.
Or a win against AP, L, and the bowl and everyone goes away saying Next year.
 

jauk11

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As Coach Brooks tweeted this weekend: UK needs to win its next game, and win its bowl game.

Exactly right, and as far as I am concerned playing a team we can beat is probably more important than what bowl we play in, attendance, or anything else. In a couple of years recruits won't even remember who or where we played, but they will see that WINNING SEASON a lot.
 
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STUCKNBIG10

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To be honest...UK's isn't even selling out our own stadium and the weather has been very temperate. I just don' t see alot of Cat fans going to Charlotte/Nashville vs. Birmingham/Shreveport. Nashville could get a slightly higher uptick due to being a few hours drive...but I'd doubt fans go hard for a game that will cost $50 a ticket and the opponent will be a poor Big 10 school.

In the end, it's about beating Austin Peay to get to 6 wins...nothing else is tangible for this team. Maybe we can make UL sweat it out a bit in season finale.

Fair enough. I would argue that if we fail to turn out in huge numbers then it's largely b/c we do nothing to inspire any hope and optimism. We never take advantage of a big opportunity to make a splash. It's hard for the fanbase to keep getting excited only to be let down again.
 

STUCKNBIG10

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Yes, there is. And I totally agree about playing a "name team" that is down vs. a "no name" team having a good year. But beggars can't be choosers. Furthermore, while Nashville is close, I'm not sure there has been enough season ticket sales this year to assume an eye popping crowd as there was the last time the Cats played there.

And regarding those so called "NY 6" and upper tier bowls? Is not the SEC a locked in partner to such bowls? For example, right now it looks like the Sugar Bowl is going to have absolutely no better than a 3 loss SEC representative unless they have some kind of provision to pass over an SEC team.

Peace

NY6 is selected by the Committee. The only "locked in" berth is for the Sugar (where the SEC plays the Big 12). But, if there are enough top tier teams, the SEC could have also landed in other NY6 bowls like the Orange and Cotton.
 

Hjack

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Terrible weekend, all the way around:

1. UK loses
2. Auburn loses, thereby decreasing its chances for a NY 6 bowl berth (Bama still left on schedule)
3. A&M loses, thereby decreasing its chances for a NY 6 bowl berth
4. UGA wins, thereby tying UK in SEC East and increasing its bowl profile
5. Ole Miss wins, thereby increasing its chances for bowl eligibility

The only positives are USCe losing and Vandy losing (and I suppose MSU losing, though no one expected them to win).

UK continues to fall further down the bowl pecking order.
Sad. Thought Liberty.
 

Black Diamond Cat

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The program was in decline at that B-Ham Bowl, and everyone knew it. Also, Hartline had been suspended (wrongly) for that game. UK has at this point not been to a bowl in 6 years. The program is currently on an upward trajectory (as badly as some of you all want to deny that). Not sure why UK "fans" would not support them at ANY bowl. Pretty sure Ole Miss and UofL started their most recent bowl runs at the B-Ham Bowl, but I guess we're too good for that?
EXACTLY, the 6 year Bowl drought will cause this to be different than the 2011 Compass Bowl, which I was in attendance, there was a crowd of 41,000 at Legion Field. Hartline being suspended no doubt cost us a great shot to win. I could see us in the Belk Bowl, and USC in the Music City Bowl, which they have never played in. OM or MSU is NOT going bowling, due to playing each other, Vandy is also NOT going bowling after losing to Mizzou. Our Bowl outlook is brighter than many on here would have us to believe !
 

GGCAT

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EXACTLY, the 6 year Bowl drought will cause this to be different than the 2011 Compass Bowl, which I was in attendance, there was a crowd of 41,000 at Legion Field. Hartline being suspended no doubt cost us a great shot to win. I could see us in the Belk Bowl, and USC in the Music City Bowl, which they have never played in. OM or MSU is NOT going bowling, due to playing each other, Vandy is also NOT going bowling after losing to Mizzou. Our Bowl outlook is brighter than many on here would have us to believe !

?? Ole Miss only has to win 1 between Vandy and State....Id say they are going bowling barring a complete laydown, which might have been possible if not for the new wunderkind Shea Patterson.

And honestly if Vandy could somehow win one between Ole Miss and Tennessee they are probably going somewhere with a 5-7 record and a ridiculously high APR. Although that would not affect the conference bowl tie ins.
 

Black Diamond Cat

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?? Ole Miss only has to win 1 between Vandy and State....Id say they are going bowling barring a complete laydown, which might have been possible if not for the new wunderkind Shea Patterson.

And honestly if Vandy could somehow win one between Ole Miss and Tennessee they are probably going somewhere with a 5-7 record and a ridiculously high APR. Although that would not affect the conference bowl tie ins.
Yes, you are right. MSU has games with Arkansas at home and @ OM. They have an uphill road no doubt. Do not see Vandy beating OM now, or beating UT, so it looks like 4-8 for the 'Dores.
 

akaukswoosh

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We're going to win 6 games and go to a weak bowl...

It's all about breaking through to get to post season and getting extra practices.

I never did put much thought into top tier bowls and honestly, we have no business playing in a good bowl.

Our team is just too one dimensional offensively and has too little depth defensively to get to a better bowl.

Next year, we'll move up some and then beyond that, we should get to post season almost every year for the foreseeable future.
Agree
 

red rage 2016

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NY6 is selected by the Committee. The only "locked in" berth is for the Sugar (where the SEC plays the Big 12). But, if there are enough top tier teams, the SEC could have also landed in other NY6 bowls like the Orange and Cotton.

If the CFP poll looks anything like the AP the SEC will only get Bama in the playoff and whoever goes to the Sugar from the SEC. Right now Bama is the only team from the SEC in the AP Top 15 which is the first time that has happened since 2004.
 

olblue

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Participation day for football players. Everyone is a winner, no need for any player to go home with a frownie face. Why even keep score.

39 bowl games PLUS the 2 semi-final games, so in total, 41 bowl games and a championship. That means 82 play for a postseason spot.

128 teams are in D1. 32 teams already have 7 or more losses. So 96 teams are fighting for 82 spots. 18 teams have 6 losses already.

looks like some 7 loss teams will be extended the participation trophy.

82 spots. SMH. You have to wonder with ESPN losing subscribers left and right and the imminent decline in right's fees, how much longer some of these exhibition games make it.
 

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NY6 is selected by the Committee. The only "locked in" berth is for the Sugar (where the SEC plays the Big 12). But, if there are enough top tier teams, the SEC could have also landed in other NY6 bowls like the Orange and Cotton.
Ummm, are you sure about that? The committee selects the 4 teams to play in the 2 semi-final games but I think the other 4 bowls are basically determined by some tie in rules. Personally I don't like that (i.e., tie-ins) as it likely cheats some "good" teams out "better" bowls in favor of the bigger name programs. I know this year is peculiar but does a 3, maybe even 4 loss SEC team "deserve" a Sugar Bowl berth? Unless WV wins out (including whatever they are doing as a playoff) the BIG XII-II will be sending at least a 2 loss team to the Sugar.

It will never happen but I would like to see abetter playoff selection process extended to the higher their bowls (i.e., an independent selection of participants).

Peace
 

billoliver40

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Reading here and there the Liberty is considering a match twist UK and Boston College. Would be the irony bowl with Towles finishing his career against the team he started with as well as UK sandwiching a season between their former OC and ending it against their former QB.
Sportswriters eat that stuff up.

At this point, it's about valuable practice time and being able to show recruits UK is slowly beginning to turn it around.
 

red rage 2016

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Ummm, are you sure about that? The committee selects the 4 teams to play in the 2 semi-final games but I think the other 4 bowls are basically determined by some tie in rules. Personally I don't like that (i.e., tie-ins) as it likely cheats some "good" teams out "better" bowls in favor of the bigger name programs. I know this year is peculiar but does a 3, maybe even 4 loss SEC team "deserve" a Sugar Bowl berth? Unless WV wins out (including whatever they are doing as a playoff) the BIG XII-II will be sending at least a 2 loss team to the Sugar.

It will never happen but I would like to see abetter playoff selection process extended to the higher their bowls (i.e., an independent selection of participants).

Peace
http://www.collegefootballplayoff.com/selection-day

To answer your question is it kind of yes and no from the way I read it.
 

BARRYBLUE1

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If we lose to UL and finish regular season at 1-3, will be exactly how most people thought before season.
 

STUCKNBIG10

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Ummm, are you sure about that? The committee selects the 4 teams to play in the 2 semi-final games but I think the other 4 bowls are basically determined by some tie in rules. Personally I don't like that (i.e., tie-ins) as it likely cheats some "good" teams out "better" bowls in favor of the bigger name programs. I know this year is peculiar but does a 3, maybe even 4 loss SEC team "deserve" a Sugar Bowl berth? Unless WV wins out (including whatever they are doing as a playoff) the BIG XII-II will be sending at least a 2 loss team to the Sugar.

It will never happen but I would like to see abetter playoff selection process extended to the higher their bowls (i.e., an independent selection of participants).

Peace

Yes, I'm sure. There are tie-ins and requirements attached (e.g. The Pac 12 and Big 10 still have ties to the rose, there is a group of 5 team in there, the Big 12 and SEC tied to Sugar, etc), but the committee still decides the "New Year's 6 matchups" and it is the committee that decides on "at large" berths.
 

ORCAT

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We travel well when the fan base is excited. When the fan base isn't excited, we get turnouts like the last time we were in Birmingham.


I was going to post something like what the other poster said about us traveling real well and putting people in the seats but you do have a very good point. At this time I don't think a whole lot of UK fans are real excited about traveling to a real weak bowl game just because we beat someone like Austin Peay to become eligible. I know I won't be traveling to somewhere like Birmingham to watch a bowl game. It can be pretty chilly there at that time of year (so it's not a great place to double as a fun getaway during that time of year) and it's a pretty rough area where the stadium is located, from all I hear. Not a long trip from Lexington, in my opinion, but not a very attractive one either. Now, if it were Music City Bowl and Nashville, I might have to reconsider just because I love Nashville so much too.
 

docholiday51

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I know one thing, this whole season would "feel" so much better had we beaten Southern Miss, who has lost to Charlotte and Old Dominion on back to back weekends. Even had every other game gone exactly the same, we would be no worse than 7-5 with a chance to end up 8-5, which would have been a really special season. I really really hope we win the bowl game, because if we end up 6-7, it is going to feel a lot like the previous two seasons under Stoops.
Amen to this,how did we lose that f.......ing game anyway????