Discipline Question

[B1G RED RULES]

Nebraska has had problems with playing disciplined football for quite some time. Other programs - Iowa comes to mind- play very disciplined football. I assume this has to be a coaching issue. There is no way that a program like Iowa is recruiting smarter, less mentally weak players.

So, assuming it is coaching, how does this get changed. Frost keeps saying at his conferences that they preach it to the players all the time, but I’m guessing it’s more than preaching.

Thoughts?

 

[redwine65]

Iowa, has had a lot of coaching consistency and in the last 20 years we have went thru 4 different coaches. psycho bo and mr rodgers were our last 2 coaches both bringing their own form of confusion. and add onto of that nebraska has consistantly abandon the run, and the only time we can run is if we stumble upon a decent runner by sheer chance recruiting.

there are other factors, half of the players are dancing with the stars on the field after every play, and the other half are long hair hippies. both groups thinking things are ok cause we beat south east alabama school for the blind.

then apparently the big donors are under the delusion that martinez is going to turn into joe montana any time now.

maybe the biggest problem is the fans, they show up regardless how the team does, so the players and coaches think they are doing great. in most places when the team blows chunks they do so in a empty stadium. so the players know not to be dancers or hippies and concentrate on football.

 

[cecilB]

Nebraska has had problems with playing disciplined football for quite some time. Other programs - Iowa comes to mind- play very disciplined football. I assume this has to be a coaching issue. There is no way that a program like Iowa is recruiting smarter, less mentally weak players.

So, assuming it is coaching, how does this get changed. Frost keeps saying at his conferences that they preach it to the players all the time, but I’m guessing it’s more than preaching.

Thoughts?

I follow both Iowa and Nebraska closely- won’t explain the deep connections again, but they are real.

There is exponentially more discipline in Iowa's Program. It’s more than saying it, it’s living it.

#28 would be long, long, long gone at Iowa. The kids busted for weed this summer would have sat for games provided it wasn’t their third infraction. They have a draconian 3 strike policy at Iowa where even pretty minor things in most people’s mind count. They have one of the most restrictive substance abuse policy in the big 10. They benched the Jim Thorpe winner for the first half vs Nebraska in 2015 when they were in the playoff hunt...because he was late for a team meeting.

Are all their players angels- of course not.Frankly, I think Iowa is awfully strict, too strict maybe. And, I am not making some moral equivalency argument....but discipline is instilled systematically and daily at Iowa.

We have evidence that’s not the case during Riley’s era, and Frosty has proven lenient as well.

 

[Iroh]

I also live deep in Iowa territory and I agree that Iowa is very disciplined and I agree on the kid being off the team if he was on Iowa. That being said, Iowa will never be better than 2-4 losses due to that same type of discipline. Iowa teams are boring as hell to watch and even the best Iowa team in history got boat raced by a Stanford team that couldn’t hold a candle to the OSU team that was in Lincoln this week.. Kirk’s approach is to not embarrass the program and if you win on top of it, that is a bonus..

Scott will get them there, but we will never be as disciplined as Iowa.

 

[Iroh]

Iowa, has had a lot of coaching consistency and in the last 20 years we have went thru 4 different coaches. psycho bo and mr rodgers were our last 2 coaches both bringing their own form of confusion. and add onto of that nebraska has consistantly abandon the run, and the only time we can run is if we stumble upon a decent runner by sheer chance recruiting.

there are other factors, half of the players are dancing with the stars on the field after every play, and the other half are long hair hippies. both groups thinking things are ok cause we beat south east alabama school for the blind.

then apparently the big donors are under the delusion that martinez is going to turn into joe montana any time now.

maybe the biggest problem is the fans, they show up regardless how the team does, so the players and coaches think they are doing great. in most places when the team blows chunks they do so in a empty stadium. so the players know not to be dancers or hippies and concentrate on football.

I think this is sarcasm, but it is couched with enough reality to make it difficult to tel.

 

[B1G RED RULES]

Thanks for the input. I probably didn’t use the right description, but I was talking discipline in regards to committing very few penalties and playing focused football.

 

[redwine65]

I think this is sarcasm, but it is couched with enough reality to make it difficult to tel.

a lil of both :Cool:

 

[oldjar07]

I follow both Iowa and Nebraska closely- won’t explain the deep connections again, but they are real.

There is exponentially more discipline in Iowa's Program. It’s more than saying it, it’s living it.

#28 would be long, long, long gone at Iowa. The kids busted for weed this summer would have sat for games provided it wasn’t their third infraction. They have a draconian 3 strike policy at Iowa where even pretty minor things in most people’s mind count. They have one of the most restrictive substance abuse policy in the big 10. They benched the Jim Thorpe winner for the first half vs Nebraska in 2015 when they were in the playoff hunt...because he was late for a team meeting.

Are all their players angels- of course not.Frankly, I think Iowa is awfully strict, too strict maybe. And, I am not making some moral equivalency argument....but discipline is instilled systematically and daily at Iowa.

We have evidence that’s not the case during Riley’s era, and Frosty has proven lenient as well.

Teams can have issues off the field and still play very disciplined on game day. First thing I would do if the team is having any sort of discipline or focus issues is turning the damn music off in practice. I've heard there have been some fights in practices. There should be no tolerance for that. You can't go through the motions in practice and expect to play well during games. It's the little things every single day that brings about disciplined play, apparently other teams are doing this and we're not.

 

[cecilB]

Teams can have issues off the field and still play very disciplined on game day.

Sure, but much more unusual and difficult. Don’t misconstrue this as Frost runs a loose ship...that will be revealed over time 1 1/4 years into a 7 yr contract is a small slice