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This is no joke. I talk with a guy I’m familiar with in wrestling circles.

(Edit: he’s from a European country…needed to add this)

he literally thought there KKK rallies all the time in cities across the US and whites were waiting on corners to lynch blacks. That’s the perception the media gives off. It’s unbelievable
 

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Completely respect your view. I fear you're correct. FWIW not all Republicans/conservatives/Christians hate gay people. That's also a myth that the extreme groups like to spread.
When most people use the word “hate” for their political opponents it is only because they have already been groomed or desire to groom others by the leverage of shame.
 

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This is no joke. I talk with a guy I’m familiar with in wrestling circles.

(Edit: he’s from a European country…needed to add this)

he literally thought there KKK rallies all the time in cities across the US and whites were waiting on corners to lynch blacks. That’s the perception the media gives off. It’s unbelievable
Really? Wow

That gargoyle's profile is now private on tiktok. Apparently got absolutely roasted.
Anybody here still want to criticize this law?
Ganner will.
 
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Just skimming over the last couple of pages, I still say some here love their new buzz word which is of course GROOMING and some of you seem a little obsessed with pedophilia. However, at the end of the day, Americans just want to live their lives and not be made to feel guilty over ********. For whatever reason, the left is still obsessed with these goofy *** social issues as if they've become the Religious Right of the 80s. Doing so will only lead to further losses for the left, and when that happens, they'll tweet that to win, they need to become more progressive in the future. They don't get it and I hope they're not surprised when DeSantis gets the nom and wins in '24.
 

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Just skimming over the last couple of pages, I still say some here love their new buzz word which is of course GROOMING and some of you seem a little obsessed with pedophilia. However, at the end of the day, Americans just want to live their lives and not be made to feel guilty over ********. For whatever reason, the left is still obsessed with these goofy *** social issues as if they've become the Religious Right of the 80s. Doing so will only lead to further losses for the left, and when that happens, they'll tweet that to win, they need to become more progressive in the future. They don't get it and I hope they're not surprised when DeSantis gets the nom and wins in '24.
Don’t make people guilty for pedophilia?
 
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Don’t make people guilty for pedophilia?
Yes, that's exactly what I said in my post. Your reading comprehension is stellar and beyond impressive.

I'm referring to social issues in general and you know that. Plenty of you ***** about it constantly here as if you're victims of it on a daily basis. It's why progressives will keep losing elections. They continue to go all in on social issues as if that's the most important thing going on.

Again, I salute you on your ability to comb through a paragraph and understand exactly what the writer of that post said. Kudos.
 
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Yes, that's exactly what I said in my post. Your reading comprehension is stellar and beyond impressive.

I'm referring to social issues in general and you know that. Plenty of you ***** about it constantly here as if you're victims of it on a daily basis. It's why progressives will keep losing elections. They continue to go all in on social issues as if that's the most important thing going on.

Again, I salute you on your ability to comb through a paragraph and understand exactly what the writer of that post said. Kudos.
Thanks!

You attempt to shame people who are rightfully outraged by despicable acts against children by pretending that the people expressing disagreement are “obsessed.” If you want to downplay pedophilia and the damage it does, that is your decision and seems consistent with how the left is rolling. And, then, right after you write about a sickness that leads to the abuse of small children, you claim Americans just want to live their lives without a sense of guilt. Maybe it is you who should consider your ability to communicate.
 

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And now you can understand why it was necessary for Florida to pass the Parental Rights Act. This stuff is getting out of control and it is best to stop it in it's tracks. People like this should be removed from the public educational system.

Even if the powerful Disney Corporation with all of their billions of dollars comes against you. Disney is getting a little big for their britches and the State of Florida can fight back by changing their special status of being allowed to run their own local government including levying taxes. That could change with a stroke of a pen. And it should and I trust it will.
 

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You want your school to teach your 9 year old to watch porn. Then you can move to New Jersey and you will have the schools blessings.

You would think even a liberal parent would not want this on a 4th grade 9 year old. But as they say liberalism is a mental disorder and to promote this on a child one has to be a mentally ill sexual pervert

New Jersey’s new sex curriculum points elementary students to watch videos from Amaze. This is one of their videos. They are telling 9 year olds to watch porn. Groomers. pic.twitter.com/9GrXYmJsNl
— Libs of Tik Tok (@libsoftiktok) April 8, 2022
 

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There’s around 1.8 million public school elementary school teachers in the US. One tenth of one percent of those would be 1,800. Feel free to share when you can hit that mark (0.1%) of that many instances of elementary children being “groomed” to “turn gay” or “transition” in the public school setting. Otherwise you’re trying to legislate a solution to an imaginary issue (also known as fear mongering). I realize the right has to keep its voters outraged over something to keep them marching lock step in line, but regardless, I’ll be waiting on pins in needles for your data rather than “probably in a school near you”.

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THIS right here.

This is how this country fell to the levels it has. Laziness and procrastination. Passing the buck.

"Let's wait until EVERYONE has been indoctrinated before we try to fix the system."

"Who cares about scientific and medical protocol... let's wait until people are nearly dying to treat symptoms."

"What can it hurt to let Congress be immune to prosecution for check kiting and insider trading? It's not like they're all abusing the system. It's just a handful."

"Let's just go to war without assessing the will of the people, and making our representation vote on it. Our government couldn't be wrong."

PRECEDENT is the problem. It IS what you ALLOW the .0001% to get away with that leads to larger problems. How can ANYONE not have a clue about this?

If you take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens, but leave them in the hands of criminals, it doesn't hurt the criminals.

If you refuse to sentence criminals to harsher punishments, they no longer fear being caught, and no longer fear committing crime.

If you allow 1 person to abuse another physically, sexually, or emotionally without any repercussions, it doesn't just affect that one person that is abused. The effect is felt by all who see and hear about it, and who are affected by those 2 people going forward. It IS exponential.

Allowing 10 teachers to teach kindergarteners about sex and gender confusion leads to confusion among MANY over MANY years. ONE teacher may effect confusion and dysfunction in up to 90 children in one school year. 90 children will affect many more over the course of their schooling as they move through the system and nation.

The people who don't want to call it "grooming" may not like how predatorial and creepy it sounds, but that's a THEM problem. Predators don't like to be called predators. It makes the wool a little less convincing on the wolf.
 

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THIS right here.

This is how this country fell to the levels it has. Laziness and procrastination. Passing the buck.

"Let's wait until EVERYONE has been indoctrinated before we try to fix the system."

"Who cares about scientific and medical protocol... let's wait until people are nearly dying to treat symptoms."

"What can it hurt to let Congress be immune to prosecution for check kiting and insider trading? It's not like they're all abusing the system. It's just a handful."

"Let's just go to war without assessing the will of the people, and making our representation vote on it. Our government couldn't be wrong."

PRECEDENT is the problem. It IS what you ALLOW the .0001% to get away with that leads to larger problems. How can ANYONE not have a clue about this?

If you take guns out of the hands of law abiding citizens, but leave them in the hands of criminals, it doesn't hurt the criminals.

If you refuse to sentence criminals to harsher punishments, they no longer fear being caught, and no longer fear committing crime.

If you allow 1 person to abuse another physically, sexually, or emotionally without any repercussions, it doesn't just affect that one person that is abused. The effect is felt by all who see and hear about it, and who are affected by those 2 people going forward. It IS exponential.

Allowing 10 teachers to teach kindergarteners about sex and gender confusion leads to confusion among MANY over MANY years. ONE teacher may effect confusion and dysfunction in up to 90 children in one school year. 90 children will affect many more over the course of their schooling as they move through the system and nation.

The people who don't want to call it "grooming" may not like how predatorial and creepy it sounds, but that's a THEM problem. Predators don't like to be called predators. It makes the wool a little less convincing on the wolf.
Bravo Bravo Bravo

When a child is sexually molested or "groomed" by predators it makes a psychological wound time can not erase. I have seen it with my own eyes. I know of an incident where a minister molested a 14 year old. She married and sex was a problem from day one. My friend stuck with her and she got counseling and prayer and love from her family and friends but she never got out of it. Today she is 75 years old and still has those scars. She will die with them.

A person involved in this not only does not have any place teaching in schools they should be in jail. It is past time to do something about it and I pray other states take the example of Florida and do it. It is a huge problem even if it is a small percentage. Those molested and harmed are not concerned with percentages. They care about their hurt and wound.
 

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I’ve been saying for several years that Hollywood, the media, politicians are making the push to make pedophilia normal and we’re seeing it.

... it’s so sad the gay community is letting these groomers take over and radicalize their community and base

And if you don’t think you’re going to see the push to normalize pedophilia in the next few years, remember this post because it’s going to hit you in the face like you ran into a brick wall and then it’ll be too late. You think it’s a coincidence they nominated a radical to the Supreme Court who is lenient on child predators?

Don’t say many of us didn’t warn you.

The first time I heard this would be the next step was back in the early 80s. Church and religious leaders were saying it. You know what they were saying before that?

They were saying that porn would corrupt our youth, lead to more abuse, perversion, confusion, and sexual promiscuity, more teen pregnancy and rape, and continue to break down the family and society over time.

(This will be a hard word for some people to hear. So many people I've met over the years, in their upbringing porn was not looked at as bad or influential. It was just part of their life. It was on their TV. It was a "rite of passage" for teenage boys. It's only decades later that the effects of this were seen. We have to be able to hear this and change things for the better.)

How many people have been compromised by the porn industry and porn addiction? How many arrested and prosecuted for sexual predation due simply to porn over the past 20 years alone? Why do you think the industry hasn't been banned and shut down completely in spite of this? Are we that stupid that we think it isn't destroying people at a fundamental moral level?

Or is it a tool to destroy our country and therefore is KEPT ALIVE to entrap and mentally and physically enslave more people?

How does a perverse ideology become no longer perverse? Reproduction. Pedophiles need to create more people just like them, preferably without anyone realizing they're being led that direction, until there are enough people to change the perception of that ideology.

We learned in psych 101 half a century ago that pornography had devastating effects on those exposed to it over time, that it could be addictive, that it could lead to other issues and abuses. While everyone was focused on smoking and other drugs, they were convinced to ignore pornography, in spite of it being equally as dangerous to developing and developed minds.
 
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There’s around 1.8 million public school elementary school teachers in the US. One tenth of one percent of those would be 1,800. Feel free to share when you can hit that mark (0.1%) of that many instances of elementary children being “groomed” to “turn gay” or “transition” in the public school setting. Otherwise you’re trying to legislate a solution to an imaginary issue (also known as fear mongering). I realize the right has to keep its voters outraged over something to keep them marching lock step in line, but regardless, I’ll be waiting on pins in needles for your data rather than “probably in a school near you”.
There is nothing imaginary about it. And why is it fear mongering? Doesn't the Democrat Party promote it and encourage it. Would they promote something people would fear if they knew about it. If I point out it is happening, even if 0.1% then it is an issue for those 0.1%. In your world those 0.1% are not important. They are not relevant. Just throw them to the sexual predators, pedos, and deviants. Why not it is only 0.1%

This issue should have Democrats outrage too and it does but you are too blind to see it. 52% of Florida Democrats support Gov DeSantis and the State Legislature for passing the act. Those opposed are in the 20% range. 20 some odd % don't care or didn't know.

If Democrats continue to laugh at this and say it is fear mongering reality will hit y'all in the butt when you get wiped out like a school board in Virginia. Stay tuned for the November elections
 

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Thanks!

You attempt to shame people who are rightfully outraged by despicable acts against children by pretending that the people expressing disagreement are “obsessed.” If you want to downplay pedophilia and the damage it does, that is your decision and seems consistent with how the left is rolling. And, then, right after you write about a sickness that leads to the abuse of small children, you claim Americans just want to live their lives without a sense of guilt. Maybe it is you who should consider your ability to communicate.
Please cry more about "shaming". I've said that over the last few years, BOTH sides have become obsessed with the thought of pedophilia. The left accused Trump of diddling pageant children, wanting to sleep with Ivanka when she was a child, traveling to pedo island with Epstein, etc. while the right accused Clinton and Biden of roughly the same (minus the pageants and Ivanka). It's become a cheap talking point. And again, you're taking my words and twisting them into something that isn't there. When did I say we should downplay pedophilia? You're attempting to come off as smart but you're just taking my posts and trying to turn me into that libs of tiktok account. We probably agree more than we disagree but it's hard to get there because I think you just want me to ***** about liberals like the other 20 people here.

Children should be taught the basics, simple as that. The left going down this road to force social issues in general into the classroom is why they will continue to lose. I've already said this and you choose to ignore it as if I'm the bad guy over here condoning child diddling. If you're going to fling ****, then refrain from talking to me, because you're coming off like you want to be the hero that's saving kids while accusing me of being some evil doer. You're the one that began responding to me, hoss. I'm just doing you the solid of trying to keep the conversation going, but if you're going to put the world on your back and accuse me of saying things I didn't, I'm not sure there's a point.
 

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Please cry more about "shaming". I've said that over the last few years, BOTH sides have become obsessed with the thought of pedophilia. The left accused Trump of diddling pageant children, wanting to sleep with Ivanka when she was a child, traveling to pedo island with Epstein, etc. while the right accused Clinton and Biden of roughly the same (minus the pageants and Ivanka). It's become a cheap talking point. And again, you're taking my words and twisting them into something that isn't there. When did I say we should downplay pedophilia? You're attempting to come off as smart but you're just taking my posts and trying to turn me into that libs of tiktok account. We probably agree more than we disagree but it's hard to get there because I think you just want me to ***** about liberals like the other 20 people here.

Children should be taught the basics, simple as that. The left going down this road to force social issues in general into the classroom is why they will continue to lose. I've already said this and you choose to ignore it as if I'm the bad guy over here condoning child diddling. If you're going to fling ****, then refrain from talking to me, because you're coming off like you want to be the hero that's saving kids while accusing me of being some evil doer. You're the one that began responding to me, hoss. I'm just doing you the solid of trying to keep the conversation going, but if you're going to put the world on your back and accuse me of saying things I didn't, I'm not sure there's a point.
Have a great weekend.
 

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Are Catholic priests still protected by the church in their insistence on raping young boys? How is that handled in this recent slew of legislation?
No they are not. If there is a remotely credible allegation of any sexual misconduct they are relieved of active ministry immediately pending an investigation. At least that’s how it’s done here in the Diocese of Evansville and from what I’ve heard how it goes with the Diocese of Owensboro.
 

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No they are not. If there is a remotely credible allegation of any sexual misconduct they are relieved of active ministry immediately pending an investigation. At least that’s how it’s done here in the Diocese of Evansville and from what I’ve heard how it goes with the Diocese of Owensboro.
Just ignore pti. He's been weird about the subject since sharing a sleeping bag with his boy scout leader on a camping trip.
 

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Please cry more about "shaming". I've said that over the last few years, BOTH sides have become obsessed with the thought of pedophilia. The left accused Trump of diddling pageant children, wanting to sleep with Ivanka when she was a child, traveling to pedo island with Epstein, etc. while the right accused Clinton and Biden of roughly the same (minus the pageants and Ivanka). It's become a cheap talking point. And again, you're taking my words and twisting them into something that isn't there. When did I say we should downplay pedophilia? You're attempting to come off as smart but you're just taking my posts and trying to turn me into that libs of tiktok account. We probably agree more than we disagree but it's hard to get there because I think you just want me to ***** about liberals like the other 20 people here.

Children should be taught the basics, simple as that. The left going down this road to force social issues in general into the classroom is why they will continue to lose. I've already said this and you choose to ignore it as if I'm the bad guy over here condoning child diddling. If you're going to fling ****, then refrain from talking to me, because you're coming off like you want to be the hero that's saving kids while accusing me of being some evil doer. You're the one that began responding to me, hoss. I'm just doing you the solid of trying to keep the conversation going, but if you're going to put the world on your back and accuse me of saying things I didn't, I'm not sure there's a point.

Sexualizing children is not a social issue.

The fact that democrat scumbags think it is shows the limitless depths of their depravity.

Yes, it is not an election winning strategy ... yet. More importantly, and the point you won't acknowledge is that it is a disgusting evil that is being shamelessly normalized and now apparently accepted for open discussion. Unbelievable.
 

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Sexualizing children is not a social issue.

The fact that democrat scumbags think it is shows the limitless depths of their depravity.

Yes, it is not an election winning strategy ... yet. More importantly, and the point you won't acknowledge is that it is a disgusting evil that is being shamelessly normalized and now apparently accepted for open discussion. Unbelievable.
I'm not in favor of making children more open to discussions of sexuality but I also don't believe all democrats want to make children their personal play things. I also question some of the things I've seen on the libs of tiktok account, such as a classroom of young children being told they can remove their masks and they all cheer together as they throw their masks on the ground and into the air. That looked planned to get likes from parents who believed masks were abusing their kids. I'm glad masks are gone btw. We went from everything being fake news to "oh, that's on twitter, why it must be true."

Bottom line for me is that I don't think this is okay and I have no issue if parents are upset. If me saying that grooming has become a buzz word made some think I am okay with what's happening, then to be clear, I'm not. I think the intent by the goofy *** left was to make children think the LGBTQ community is just like everyone else, and that it's okay to ask questions and to get answers. But the teacher should always refer to the parents on those types of issues. I feel the intent is to not have a repeat of the last several decades when it was clearly okay to say f-- as well as other things to people who were considered different. It's a losing issue for the left and they don't realize it.

FWIW, I'll be voting for DeSantis in '24 if he gets the nom.
 

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You want your school to teach your 9 year old to watch porn. Then you can move to New Jersey and you will have the schools blessings.

You would think even a liberal parent would not want this on a 4th grade 9 year old. But as they say liberalism is a mental disorder and to promote this on a child one has to be a mentally ill sexual pervert
What the actual ****?
 

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Once upon a time throwing porn at a 4th grader would get you in the state pen dragging a ball and chain. Or shot by someone's daddy.

Biden nominated an activist for the Supreme Court who is sympathetic to child predators

Biden is on video inappropriately touching young girls with the girls looking extremely uncomfortable while their idiot parents are smiling like Dolts, getting their photo ops

We know what’s on Hunters laptop

Epstein island and the whole mess…hey Mr Clinton

Ricky Gervais calls out Hollywood, to their face, for being child predators

Folks, I’ve said this for several years: the elites, media, etc are slowly trying to normalize pedophilia. Democrats: I’m warning you. It’s going to hit you in the face one day, but it’s going to be too late . I don’t know if I’m sadden or disgusted you goofs can’t see what’s happening
 

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This is no joke. I talk with a guy I’m familiar with in wrestling circles.

(Edit: he’s from a European country…needed to add this)

he literally thought there KKK rallies all the time in cities across the US and whites were waiting on corners to lynch blacks. That’s the perception the media gives off. It’s unbelievable
When I was in England for work five years ago, the only other guy who could speak English was this Indian dude who worked in Saudi Arabia. I naturally hung out with him on this trip and had dinner. One of the things he wanted to know was...."Tell me about the guns." He thought Americans were basically Yosemite Sam just shooting all the time and eating cheeseburgers.

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Biden nominated an activist for the Supreme Court who is sympathetic to child predators

Biden is on video inappropriately touching young girls with the girls looking extremely uncomfortable while their idiot parents are smiling like Dolts, getting their photo ops

We know what’s on Hunters laptop

Epstein island and the whole mess…hey Mr Clinton

Ricky Gervais calls out Hollywood, to their face, for being child predators

Folks, I’ve said this for several years: the elites, media, etc are slowly trying to normalize pedophilia. Democrats: I’m warning you. It’s going to hit you in the face one day, but it’s going to be too late . I don’t know if I’m sadden or disgusted you goofs can’t see what’s happening
Anything the left calls conspiracy is just **** people see coming from a mile away or calling out what's already occurred or occurring. These are very evil people. We had Epstein and his cohort setting up child sex slaves and sex trafficking for powerful people and Epstein was killed and nothing was done about it and Maxwell's court docs were sealed. So there's a two-tiered justice system here where the powerful elite can steal, kill, create chaos, and rape kids and the public is not allowed to know about it because these people have bought everyone---the judges, lawyers, politicians, media, all of it.
 

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Sexualizing children is not a social issue.

The fact that democrat scumbags think it is shows the limitless depths of their depravity.

Yes, it is not an election winning strategy ... yet. More importantly, and the point you won't acknowledge is that it is a disgusting evil that is being shamelessly normalized and now apparently accepted for open discussion. Unbelievable.
Because the left is a cult incapable of self analyzing or being critical of the dogma or their masters. There is absolutely no difference in how you'd see a Scientologist react or a leftist react to questioning or exposing them.

They simply cannot criticize their party. Everything Dems say is good and true to them. No matter the topic. As we see on here and everywhere, their base will adopt whatever the belief they're fed and then not allow any deviation from that narrative. Every. Single. Topic.
 

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Biden nominated an activist for the Supreme Court who is sympathetic to child predators

Biden is on video inappropriately touching young girls with the girls looking extremely uncomfortable while their idiot parents are smiling like Dolts, getting their photo ops

We know what’s on Hunters laptop

Epstein island and the whole mess…hey Mr Clinton

Ricky Gervais calls out Hollywood, to their face, for being child predators

Folks, I’ve said this for several years: the elites, media, etc are slowly trying to normalize pedophilia. Democrats: I’m warning you. It’s going to hit you in the face one day, but it’s going to be too late . I don’t know if I’m sadden or disgusted you goofs can’t see what’s happening
November is going to shock a lot of Democrat politicians
 
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