Not surprised ganner is for this. Liberals are so twisted. Anything sexualized to children is disgusting. The law should be applied nationwide. Mentally ill people oppose it and want this lgbtabcdefg agenda to be pushed onto children.
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This isn’t censorship. Teachers get paid to teach standards, not opinions about sexuality.
Besides, it’s K-3 which is very reasonable.
What the hell does this even mean? You think if little Johnny realizes his friend has two dads he's suddenly going to turn gay?
So is homosexuality.
Wrong James, that’s not illegal but that just proves that the liberal media has brainwashed you. That has been their narrative but if you read the actual law that’s not what it says. You will believe whatever they tell you. Too lazy and far gone to think for yourself I suppose.
Just a point of clarification, it's K-3 or "not age-appropriate or developmentally appropriate" which is never actually defined. One of the issues people have with this bill is that it is too vague and does not clearly define what is prohibited.
Not surprised you're an antigay bigot who thinks "Johnny has two daddies" is "sexualized."
What is a progressive LGBT agenda?
Are they offering gender reassignment surgeries in the line for Space Mountain or are they just encouraging people to treat gay and trans folks equally despite their differences.
I obviously object to hypothetical A and have less than zero problems with hypothetical B
I first heard the term gay in 1986 on the bus as a first-grader, FWIW
Are they offering gender reassignment surgeries in the line for Space Mountain or are they just encouraging people to treat gay and trans folks equally despite their differences.
I obviously object to hypothetical A and have less than zero problems with hypothetical B
I first heard the term gay in 1986 on the bus as a first-grader, FWIW
Anything sexualized shouldn't be taught k-3. Anything. Not sex, not relationships. Nothing. Teach them math, colors, spelling, writing. Basic stuff. Anyone disagreeing with that is a bigot now? That's how I know it's an agenda.
If you think teachers should be touching on these subjects at these age groups you are nuts. If you are a teacher and WANT to speak on these subjects to these age groups, you have an agenda.
Naked and Afraid had a trans on the other night and my son said "daddy, why does that woman have a beard"...who TF wants to field that question? Nobody in their right mind.
Naked and Afraid had a trans on the other night and my son said "daddy, why does that woman have a beard"...who TF wants to field that question? Nobody in their right mind.
If you want your 5 year old to be part of a curriculum that explains chicks with dicks then you suck as a parent. Or sexual situations of any kind, heterosexual or homosexual. That’s your job.
Teachers need to teach them reading, writing, arithmetic, arts. They don’t need indoctrination. They get enough of that from TV. And Disney can kiss my grits.
Teachers need to teach them reading, writing, arithmetic, arts. They don’t need indoctrination. They get enough of that from TV. And Disney can kiss my grits.
Should a gay teacher be allowed to put a picture of them and their spouse on their desk? What if they do and a student asks the teacher who the other person in the picture is? What if students have gay parents? Should those students be able to mention those parents? What if a boy gives another boy a box of those chalky candy hearts for Valentine's Day? What if a student's gay parents come to the Halloween costume parade and another student asks who they are? If a gay teacher can't mention their spouse does that mean a straight male teacher can't mention his wife?
The people opposed are not honest enough to call it by the name it is. The untruthful left refer to it as "Don't Say Gay" which is a lie. But what is new with the left. About 55% of Democrats in Florida support the governor and state legislature. Some Democrats do not want their child recruited to change sexes.
There is nothing in this four page bill that comes close to saying "Don't Say Gay".
The law was necessary because of what was going on in Florida schools. lesbians and homosexual teachers were "grooming small kids" for the purpose of converting them to that lifestyle and the parents had no clue. One mother testified her daughter was being "groomed" by a lesbian teacher and this teacher told the daughter she would be called a boys name at school and was to act like a boy. She was also told not to tell her mother about any of this. The daughter went to her mother and spilled the beans. All hell broke loose in Leon County, Florida and that spread around he state until the legislature had to take action by passing a statute. The people demanded it. I am confident other states would do the same if they knew what their children are being taught and "groomed".
Now if that bothers America it would be best to ignore Florida, don't vacation down here and best of all please do not move down here. You would not like it.
Read the bill. There’s nothing that says they can’t answer questions. They just can’t make it part of the curriculum.
This Liberal ******** talking point that you can’t say “gay” is just an attention getter.
Florida law does not prohibit any of that. It is designed to stop the "grooming" of K-3. Florida had teachers who were engaged in that activity and the vast majority of Floridians do not want their child recruited to a lifestyle by a teacher.
The parent can take care of that in the privacy of their home. Please be honest when you arguing against the bill. "Don't be gay" is not the issue.
DeSantis didn't sign a bill to legislate it? Good to know because caveman said libs are bullying compliance.
You didn't address my point at all. The bill could have addressed the concern you pointed out while being specific enough so people know what is and what is not allowed.
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"What if Jupiter was your hair brush and there were Nazis behind every tree ready to deport the gays?"
You outsource all independent thinking to your TV and their propagandists instead of reading the information directly yourself. It's like that with everything when it comes to your cult. You never want to read the original source material. You wait to hear the talking point or told how to feel and think and what to parrot.
You are seriously dumb AF.
"What if Jupiter was your hair brush and there were Nazis behind every tree ready to deport the gays?"
You outsource all independent thinking to your TV and their propagandists instead of reading the information directly yourself. It's like that with everything when it comes to your cult. You never want to read the original source material. You wait to hear the talking point or told how to feel and think and what to parrot.
Come on. Everybody with a brain knows what the issue is. Read the bill, it is four pages. Do you think Disney and homosexual and lesbians read the bill. I doubt it. They saw GOP, DeSantis and Florida in the headlines and just started spewing lies.
It happens every day and the more you do it, the higher DeSantis goes in the polls. Now he has 55% of Democrats supporting him. Only 35% in your corner who oppose the new law.
I've read the bill. The first page says one of its purposes is "prohibiting classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity in certain grade levels or in a specified manner." That statement is not at all specific or well defined.
It later states "Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards."
The problem becomes this is vague enough where there are legitimate questions about the definitions of "classroom instruction" and "age appropriate or developmentally appropriate". When does a teacher answering questions about their gay spouse or mentioning that gay people exist turn into "classroom instruction".
You will not find a single person who thinks it's acceptable to groom elementary school children. You will find people concerned that this bill is vague enough that a gay teacher feels like mentioning their spouse is in violation of this bill.
You say this like anything I mentioned is outside the norm of what happens every day in classrooms around the country. I've read the bill and it's vague as hell. If there were legitimate problems that the Florida Legislature was concerned about they needed to write a bill that specifically prohibits those behaviors.
Then why are they engaged in it. That is what was happening. And there is nothing in the bill that says a homosexual can not mention his homosexual man love. I know a homosexual teacher and have known his parents all of their lives. Everybody in his school knows it and nobody has given it a second thought.
That is just another lie by the homosexual lobby. And people are starting to see the light and their agenda.
Now excuse me but I have to mow the grass before it gets too warm outside
Pretty amazing that we all managed to go through elementary school without our teachers discussing their private lives with us which I know was a tall task since most of us at 8 years old were going up and saying, "So Mrs. Turner, how was the bar on Saturday? Who did you finger?"
If you are engaged in these topics enough to worry about the definition of "classroom instruction" or "age/developmentally appropriate discussion" then how about this, defer and let the parents field those questions.
I cannot recall asking any teachers about their spouses/personal life...and about 0% cared to share anything about theirs....that isnt an issue.
I cannot recall asking any teachers about their spouses/personal life...and about 0% cared to share anything about theirs....that isnt an issue.
Simply having media that portrays a same sex couple, or a male teacher mentioning his husband (just as a female teacher can mention her husband), or mentioning a student's "fathers" would appear to run afoul of this law. The law does one thing - censor the existence of gay people from classrooms - and is then is justified by cynical lies about the law being about "grooming" or "sexual content."
I was aware of teachers having spouses, or kids of their own. It's only bigots who think a gay person openly discussing their having a spouse or partner is anything different than a straight person doing so.
I don't disagree with preventing K-3 students from learning about gender orientation. Problem with the bill is that a person that doesn't want their child learning anything about gender or sex at all at any age could sue because they won't think it's age appropriate until they turn 18, people supporting the gay agenda can sue for the schools promoting the straight or anti-gay agenda, etc. You assign a book to a first grader that has a straight married couple? lawsuit.
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Naw, man. They can't. They never want to read the original source material. They wait to be fed the talking points to have and passionately argue this with the upmost fervor. It never occurs to them that they may be wrong or to wait to hear the facts.
They do this all the time. Instead of watching a video of an incident, they want to read the slant about the video. Instead of reading leaked emails, they want to be told how to discredit it or slander the person relaying the message. Instead of knowing the facts of a criminal case, they'd rather repeat what the talking head said on their team's political network.
It does not specify that. It says there cannot be "classroom instruction" about the topic. It does not define what classroom instruction is. It states the bill was written to prohibit "classroom discussion about sexual orientation or gender identity." I'd love to know where the lines are between answering questions from curious students, classroom discussion, and classroom instruction.
If it wanted to ban a specific practice it should have been clear about what that practice was.
I'm cornfused. Since it passed and was signed into law, you CAN legislate morality?
So you think classroom discussion about sexual orientation is appropriate at any age? And your main issue is that a teacher cannot comment on their sexual orientation if asked by a student?
Wouldnt that question be inappropriate regardless of the age of student or orientation of teacher? Or we cool with "hey miss so & so, you like dick?" questions...
I can only assume if this was the actual motivation behind the bill the word "grooming" or a mention of inappropriate sexual content would appear somewhere. But they don't.
That's exactly the problem with this law. What is "classroom discussion"? If a gay male teacher has a picture of his husband on his desk and a student asks who is in the picture can the teacher answer with "That's my husband"? And for the record if the bill bans discussion of "sexual orientation" that means a straight teacher cannot bring up their spouse either.
Another problem is everyone is conflating "sexual orientation" with sexual content. Simply acknowledging the existence of gay people is not sexual content. Not sure why you felt the need to add "so you like dick?" to your response.
Because it would be inappropriate to ask a female teacher that - so not sure why you are so hung up over not being able to discuss sexual orientation in a classroom, particularly the orientation of said teachers.
Personal sexual orientation classroom discussion does not occur with straight teachers - so not sure why so offended on this topic.
So if homosexuality is not natural what exactly do you think it is?
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