Do you agree or disagree with Penn State's scheduling philosophy?

[psujejr]

Personally I hate it. I do not see the benefit of playing Nevada, FIU, and Villanova.
At the very least when Michigan is not on the schedule PSU should schedule a major opponent.
OSU has home and home series with Texas, Alabama, and Georgia upcoming.

Interested to hear others opinions.

 

[Marshall2323]

Agree. As long as SEC is status quo. Only 1 goal....qualify for the tournament.

 

[OaktonDave]

I would be surprised if PSU knew UM wouldn't be on the schedule when they made the current OOC game deals.

Until I see some benefit other than entertainment for the fans, I'm not sure why any P4 school would schedule an OOC heavyweight. The committee and talking heads may talk about SOS, but until they pick a 3 loss B10 or SEC team over a 2 loss B10 or SEC team because the extra loss was to a major OOC team, scheduling those games just makes it harder to do the only thing anyone cares about - making the playoffs.

 

[Erial_Lion]

We’re always going to have to play 2 “lesser” opponents each season to keep getting 7 home games (since, outside of that random Oregon State game, power 5/better opponents aren’t taking a “buy game”).

So it comes down to what we do with the other game. I like a mix of regional teams (Pitt, Syracuse, West Virginia) and some Power 5 teams (ND, Alabama, Miami, etc). It’s along the lines of what we’ve done (not this year obviously).

If I were AD in my fantasy world, I’d use football to leverage men’s hoops. Sign a football home and home with Kansas/Duke/NC that includes a basketball home and home.

 

[Woodpecker]

With 9 conference games, every other year teams have 4 home and 5 away conference games. In those years, they need 3 home games. Typically, 2 of those 3 need to be "payoff" games against teams that won't demand home-and-home series. However it seem that the third game could be the home side of a series against a name team with the away game scheduled for when Penn State has 5 home conference games. To me, it doesn't have to be against 3 turkeys.

 

[nittanymoops]

Personally I hate it. I do not see the benefit of playing Nevada, FIU, and Villanova.
At the very least when Michigan is not on the schedule PSU should schedule a major opponent.
OSU has home and home series with Texas, Alabama, and Georgia upcoming.

Interested to hear others opinions.

Normally, I’d agree.
However, check out OOC for UM in 2023 and tOSU in 2024. There are some years programs Will have three cupcakes. In our case, we were supposed to host the Hokies but it didn’t happen. (And don’t forget that UM was on the schedule for this year and the B1G East still existed. We had Sparty, tOSU and UM all at the end of the original 2025 schedule before expansion.)

Just wait till the B1G goes to a 10 game slate to maximize inventory for their TV partners.

Will agree about Temple. They should NEVER have been given a home and home. Stop playing the former local foes. If PSU is going to play a P4 OOC, shoot for the moon and hope a loss isn’t held against you for CFP. But, in reality, I don’t see us ever giving up the revenue from a seventh home game necessary to prop up the athletic department.

Bear in mind, we could lose to tOSU in perpetuity and still make the playoff at 11-1/10-2. And that’s all that matters in the new era. What do you think Buckeye fans would rather have last year? Beat UM/lose natty or lose to UM and win the natty?

 

[KingLando]

The issue isn't that Penn State is doing it. The issue is that the NCAA encourages it. Teams should be heavily penalized for the non-conference schedules when it comes to seeding and at large bids.

I have almost no interest in our game today. It's odd to me that anyone would want to go to the game but each their own. The entire schedule today is garbage. Not just our pathetic schedule.

 

[Chris92]

Personally I hate it. I do not see the benefit of playing Nevada, FIU, and Villanova.
At the very least when Michigan is not on the schedule PSU should schedule a major opponent.
OSU has home and home series with Texas, Alabama, and Georgia upcoming.

Interested to hear others opinions.

I assume you don't know Virginia Tech cancelled on us or we would be playing them today. Go back and look at the programs that won the title the past two seasons and they had a nearly identical OOC schedule. Are you a season ticket holder?

 

[KingLando]

Normally, I’d agree.
However, check out OOC for UM in 2023 and tOSU in 2024. There are some years programs Will have three cupcakes. In our case, we were supposed to host the Hokies but it didn’t happen. (And don’t forget that UM was on the schedule for this year and the B1G East still existed. We had Sparty, tOSU and UM all at the end of the original 2025 schedule before expansion.)

Just wait till the B1G goes to a 10 game slate to maximize inventory for their TV partners.

Will agree about Temple. They should NEVER have been given a home and home. Stop playing the former local foes. If PSU is going to play a P4 OOC, shoot for the moon and hope a loss isn’t held against you for CFP. But, in reality, I don’t see us ever giving up the revenue from a seventh home game necessary to prop up the athletic department.

Bear in mind, we could lose to tOSU in perpetuity and still make the playoff at 11-1/10-2. And that’s all that matters in the new era. What do you think Buckeye fans would rather have last year? Beat UM/lose natty or lose to UM and win the natty?

The Big Ten and SEC should go to a 12 game conference schedule. Why play anyone else with these conferences reading the size they have?

 

[KingLando]

I assume you don't know Virginia Tech cancelled on us or we would be playing them today. Go back and look at the programs that won the title the past two seasons and they had a nearly identical OOC schedule. Are you a season ticket holder?

Virginia Tech didn't cancel a month ago leaving us scrambling. We could have easily found something better but let's say we were playing a mediocre at best VA Tech...that still doesn't excuse the rest. Ohio State played Texas. Michigan schedule Oklahoma. When is the last time we scheduled on that level? When we played Bama?

 

[psujejr]

I assume you don't know Virginia Tech cancelled on us or we would be playing them today. Go back and look at the programs that won the title the past two seasons and they had a nearly identical OOC schedule. Are you a season ticket holder?

What does being a season ticket holder have to do with anything?
I had them for 20 years and gave them up.
I usually work every Saturday now sending 3 boys through Clemson, Rutgers and U of P.
Is that ok with you?

 

[Connorpozlee]

Hate it. It’s boring.

 

[lionJC]

I have more important issues in my life than who PSU plays. So my answer is I don't give a sh#t.

 

[Chris92]

Virginia Tech didn't cancel a month ago leaving us scrambling. We could have easily found something better but let's say we were playing a mediocre at best VA Tech...that still doesn't excuse the rest. Ohio State played Texas. Michigan schedule Oklahoma. When is the last time we scheduled on that level? When we played Bama?

When we inked the VT deal before the 2013 season, they were a well respected program nationally. They finished the season ranked 13 of the 15 previous years and were top 10 in five of them. We inked an Auburn deal with Auburn playing in the national title game two of the previous five seasons. It looked like a very strong home and home at the time. It would be like signing a home and home with LSU or Florida State, you don't know in advance if you're getting the 6-6 LSU Tigers or the world beaters that season, ditto Florida State.

 

[Chris92]

What does being a season ticket holder have to do with anything?
I had them for 20 years and gave them up.
I usually work every Saturday now sending 3 boys through Clemson, Rutgers and U of P.
Is that ok with you?

Apologies, didn't mean for it to sound di**ish.

 

[troutrus]

Would rather see them lose in a competitive, entertaining game than beat the teams in question.
For me it’s for entertainment only, as I have no skin in the game.

 

[UncleRoyBiggins]

I hate us no matter what we do. We don't deserve us.

 

[KingLando]

When we inked the VT deal before the 2013 season, they were a well respected program nationally. They finished the season ranked 13 of the 15 previous years and were top 10 in five of them. We inked an Auburn deal with Auburn playing in the national title game two of the previous five seasons. It looked like a very strong home and home at the time. It would be like signing a home and home with LSU or Florida State, you don't know in advance if you're getting the 6-6 LSU Tigers or the world beaters that season, ditto Florida State.

I agree about Auburn. We couldn't have anticipated they'd hire Harsin and tank. I disagree about Va Tech. They got lucky with Beamer and weren't going to maintain that a decade later. Just my opinion.

 

[RolexKong]

The issue isn't that Penn State is doing it. The issue is that the NCAA encourages it. Teams should be heavily penalized for the non-conference schedules when it comes to seeding and at large bids.

I have almost no interest in our game today. It's odd to me that anyone would want to go to the game but each their own. The entire schedule today is garbage. Not just our pathetic schedule.

NCAA has nothing to do with scheduling beyond limiting how many games a team can play and a season's the earliest and latest game dates.

 

[Knickslions69]

Schedule is fine. Penn state will be playing 3-4 ranked teams during season including 2 top 6 teams and 3-4 more top 10 teams in playoffs depending on how far they go. Thats plenty of tough games.

 

[RolexKong]

Schedule is fine. Penn state will be playing 3-4 ranked teams during season including 2 top 6 teams and 3-4 more top 10 teams in playoffs depending on how far they go. Thats plenty of tough games.

Ohio State has a similar schedule, yet it will play Texas, Alabama, and Georgia home-and-home.

 

[Erial_Lion]

The Big Ten and SEC should go to a 12 game conference schedule. Why play anyone else with these conferences reading the size they have?

That means losing out on a home game…doubt we see it anytime soon with the $ involved.

 

[KingLando]

NCAA has nothing to do with scheduling beyond limiting how many games a team can play and a season's the earliest and latest game dates.

They do when they disregard SOS when it comes to the playoff

 

[KingLando]

That means losing out on a home game…doubt we see it anytime soon with the $ involved.

You'd get more than enough money back from the expanded TV contract.

 

[Ludd]

The issue isn't that Penn State is doing it. The issue is that the NCAA encourages it. Teams should be heavily penalized for the non-conference schedules when it comes to seeding and at large bids.

I have almost no interest in our game today. It's odd to me that anyone would want to go to the game but each their own. The entire schedule today is garbage. Not just our pathetic schedule.

Yet you’re in here posting during the game…hmm.

 

[leinbacker]

I assume you don't know Virginia Tech cancelled on us or we would be playing them today. Go back and look at the programs that won the title the past two seasons and they had a nearly identical OOC schedule. Are you a season ticket holder?

FIU might be a better opponent than VaTech

If the OOC games are scheduled well before we know which years we will have 4 or 5 home conference games, that is a problem.

 

[troutrus]

You'd get more than enough money back from the expanded TV contract.

Never enough.

 

[KingLando]

Yet you’re in here posting during the game…hmm.

I don't understand what you think this means. The quality needs to improve. I sure as hell wouldn't pay to go the game and I'll be watching Sabalenka-Anisimova at 2--hopefully our 3rd string are in by then

 

[Relayer]

Does Florida have the toughest schedule in the country? LSU, Miami, Texas, Texas A&M, Georgia, Ole Miss, Tennessee and Florida State. That's brutal.

 

[Nitt1300]

Fans think about good games- it's not about that, it's about revenue. Want 7 home games? This is how it's done.

 

[KingLando]

Does Florida have the toughest schedule in the country? LSU, Miami, Texas, Texas A&M, Georgia, Ole Miss, Tennessee and Florida State. That's brutal.

That's what all schedules should look like. Give them credit for scheduling Miami & FSU while being in the SEC

 

[KingLando]

Fans think about good games- it's not about that, it's about revenue. Want 7 home games? This is how it's done.

TV $ trump the extra home game
It would be great if people would stop going to games like the one today
It why the Pirates can suck forever

 

[leinbacker]

That means losing out on a home game…doubt we see it anytime soon with the $ involved.

Yup, the network money is guaranteed - only if fans stop attending will anything change. But even then, they'll just force fans to buy FIU tickets when they buy Oregon tickets (pull a Pitt).

 

[Ludd]

I don't understand what you think this means. The quality needs to improve. I sure as hell wouldn't pay to go the game and I'll be watching Sabalenka-Anisimova at 2--hopefully our 3rd string are in by then

It means PSU fans will watch the games regardless of who they’re playing. I will watch if they’re playing OSU or some parochial high school. If I was a season ticket holder, I would go to every game. That’s what fans of the team do.

 

[Ludd]

That's what all schedules should look like. Give them credit for scheduling Miami & FSU while being in the SEC

They have to, it’s a law. Otherwise they wouldn’t.

 

[KingLando]

It means PSU fans will watch the games regardless of who they’re playing. I will watch if they’re playing OSU or some parochial high school. If I was a season ticket holder, I would go to every game. That’s what fans of the team do.

It shouldn't be--it allows your team to give you matchups like today
Sports are supposed to be about competition.

 

[Ludd]

It shouldn't be--it allows your team to give you matchups like today
Sports are supposed to be about competition.

College football is and has always been about winning. Only if the system changes should the scheduling change. Maybe you should be a Northwestern fan where every game is a tough game.

 

[KingLando]

College football is and has always been about winning. Only if the system changes should the scheduling change. Maybe you should be a Northwestern fan where every game is a tough game.

Beating bad teams is meaningless--this literally just an opportunity for us to prepare for Oregon
This isn't 1984--join me in 2025

 

[JohnJumba]

Where's the gratuitous we should play PiT post?

 

[Ludd]

Beating bad teams is meaningless--this literally just an opportunity for us to prepare for Oregon
This isn't 1984--join me in 2025

There is no difference, it’s still about winning.