Do you agree or disagree with Penn State's scheduling philosophy?

KingLando

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Then they’ll have a tough time getting 12 teams in a playoff.
Not if they change it because teams would have to alter their schedule
The fact you're defending our non-conference schedule is just laughable. Just flat out ridiculous.
 

Ludd

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Not if they change it because teams would have to alter their schedule
The fact you're defending our non-conference schedule is just laughable. Just flat out ridiculous.
It’s similar to almost everyone’s schedule. When you’re a top 5 team, it’s tough to schedule games that move the dial. Obviously scheduling WVU and Auburn wasn’t enough for you, so I’m not sure what you want.
 

KingLando

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It’s similar to almost everyone’s schedule. When you’re a top 5 team, it’s tough to schedule games that move the dial. Obviously scheduling WVU and Auburn wasn’t enough for you, so I’m not sure what you want.
It's not similar to everyone. Texas and Ohio State played each other, Mihcigan plays Oklahoma, Bama played FSU, Clemson played LSU
I want to do what real programs do--play each other. It's not a difficult concept.
And I didn't complain about Auburn--they ended up being garbage but they tried. WVU and Va Tech are jokes as "the big game"
 

Ludd

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It's not similar to everyone. Texas and Ohio State played each other, Mihcigan plays Oklahoma, Bama played FSU, Clemson played LSU
I want to do what real programs do--play each other. It's not a difficult concept.
And I didn't complain about Auburn--they ended up being garbage but they tried. WVU and Va Tech are jokes as "the big game"
Apparently you need to find a different team to be a “fan” of. I’m done with you.
 
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Personally I hate it. I do not see the benefit of playing Nevada, FIU, and Villanova.
At the very least when Michigan is not on the schedule PSU should schedule a major opponent.
OSU has home and home series with Texas, Alabama, and Georgia upcoming.

Interested to hear others opinions.
Does not seem to be good for anything…other than showing fanboys that this is not a legit contender.
 

KingLando

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NCAA does not choose members of the selection committee or make criteria.
Did I say they do?
Allowing the NCAA to exist and having this sport in that world is why we don't have a real playoff setup
A super league fixes that--hopefully that happens sooner than later as it's long overdue.
 

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Did I say they do?
Allowing the NCAA to exist and having this sport in that world is why we don't have a real playoff setup
A super league fixes that--hopefully that happens sooner than later as it's long overdue.
NCAA did not promote or prevent the current playoff structure from existing. NCAA cannot prevent a "super league" from forming or "a real playoff setup" (whatever you think that is) from coming into being, It hasn't happened because the boys in Birmingham and Rosemont and, to a lesser extent, Charlotte and Irving (and some other little places) just can't overcome their own greed.
 

KingLando

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NCAA did not promote or prevent the current playoff structure from existing. NCAA cannot prevent a "super league" from forming or "a real playoff setup" (whatever you think that is) from coming into being, It hasn't happened because the boys in Birmingham and Rosemont and, to a lesser extent, Charlotte and Irving (and some other little places) just can't overcome their own greed.
My head hurts...until a Super League exists FBS remains under NCAA control (as impotent as they are) which will enable weak scheduling. The Super League, which is also about greed, ends the charade of pretending schools like FIU should be playing Penn State.
 

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My head hurts...until a Super League exists FBS remains under NCAA control (as impotent as they are) which will enable weak scheduling. The Super League, which is also about greed, ends the charade of pretending schools like FIU should be playing Penn State.
Your head hurts because your under-powered brain is working overtime to comprehend the simplest concept, that the NCAA has no--- zip, cero, null, maru--- control over the structure or formation of a playoff.
 
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KingLando

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Your head hurts because your under-powered brain is working overtime to comprehend the simplest concept, that the NCAA has no--- zip, cero, null, maru--- control over the structure or formation of a playoff.
You're incorrect because you're taking it literally as opposed to what I'm discussing. Remaining part of the NCAA is what has created the issue.

And for "whatever you think that is" regarding a real playoff is set parameters. A Super League likely creates a 48 team league with 8 divisions of 6. You will play your division plus another division (back to back years on a rotating basis so you play everyone else twice every 14 years) so everyone has 11 common opponents. Top 3 teams in each division make the 24 team playoff. It's basic. You can also play a scrimmage weak 1 against the Nevadas of the world
 

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I’m ok with the schedule. Get to the playoffs, and the season begins. I was ok with playing WVU. They were a traditional opponent when I was a student. I don’t see the benefit to playing a schedule different from the one we have. I trust the athletic department to do what’s right for PSU. Just my feelings. Not saying I’m right.
 

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Personally I hate it. I do not see the benefit of playing Nevada, FIU, and Villanova.
At the very least when Michigan is not on the schedule PSU should schedule a major opponent.
OSU has home and home series with Texas, Alabama, and Georgia upcoming.

Interested to hear others opinions.

Personally I hate it. I do not see the benefit of playing Nevada, FIU, and Villanova.
At the very least when Michigan is not on the schedule PSU should schedule a major opponent.
OSU has home and home series with Texas, Alabama, and Georgia upcoming.

Interested to hear others opinions.
Disagree. Ohio State since the start of last year has played Texas twice, Oregon twice, Penn State, UM, Indiana and Tennessee. I believe that they have played ND 3 times in the last 4 years. Having experience playing teams with talent comparable to your own can only help. This shows up in big games.
 

Ludd

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Disagree. Ohio State since the start of last year has played Texas twice, Oregon twice, Penn State, UM, Indiana and Tennessee. I believe that they have played ND 3 times in the last 4 years. Having experience playing teams with talent comparable to your own can only help. This shows up in big games.
There’s no proof that it helps…Michigan played nobody two years ago and won it all. Many teams have benefitted from an easier schedule over the years.
 

Warlerski

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Michigan also was known to have cheated. Proof might be found in Penn State's record in big games versus OSU's.
 

Tgar

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It sucks for everyone in the stadium. At home, or at the bar, you can watch something more compelling but the three lackluster home games packaged with at least one home Big Ten Dog ( northwestern this season ) can be painful at times.
 
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Does Florida have the toughest schedule in the country? LSU, Miami, Texas, Texas A&M, Georgia, Ole Miss, Tennessee and Florida State. That's brutal.
Florida just lost to South Florida. They will be lucky to be 6-6. How would PSU fare against that schedule?
 

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It sucks for everyone in the stadium. At home, or at the bar, you can watch something more compelling but the three lackluster home games packaged with at least one home Big Ten Dog ( northwestern this season ) can be painful at times.

Scheduling isn't easy. We had home and away series with WVU and Auburn recently. Those weren't bad match ups. Moving forward we have one with Syracuse and Temple. Temple, albeit an imbalanced match up, is basically another home game.

Sometimes it just doesn't work out.
 
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I assume you don't know Virginia Tech cancelled on us or we would be playing them today. Go back and look at the programs that won the title the past two seasons and they had a nearly identical OOC schedule. Are you a season ticket holder?
VT is a decent game but not great. lol.
 

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If we win all of our games, then playing those three weak non-conference opponents won't mean a thing. If we lose close games to Ohio St. and Oregon, we probably still get in the playoff. If we lose those 2 and another game (i.e. against a good non-conference opponent), then we probably don't get in. I see very little benefit to scheduling those games.
 

Warlerski

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If we win all of our games, then playing those three weak non-conference opponents won't mean a thing. If we lose close games to Ohio St. and Oregon, we probably still get in the playoff. If we lose those 2 and another game (i.e. against a good non-conference opponent), then we probably don't get in. I see very little benefit to scheduling those games.
Playing teams with talent comparable to your own helps build mental toughness. This shows at the end of the season in conference championship games, the playoffs etc.
 

Ludd

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Playing teams with talent comparable to your own helps build mental toughness. This shows at the end of the season in conference championship games, the playoffs etc.
Where’s the proof of that? Many teams have won the NC without playing anyone tough in their regular season.
 
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Personally I hate it. I do not see the benefit of playing Nevada, FIU, and Villanova.
At the very least when Michigan is not on the schedule PSU should schedule a major opponent.
OSU has home and home series with Texas, Alabama, and Georgia upcoming.

Interested to hear others opinions.

Is PSU supposed to anticipate in advance that VaTech would back out of their series with PSU?
 
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I would be surprised if PSU knew UM wouldn't be on the schedule when they made the current OOC game deals.

Until I see some benefit other than entertainment for the fans, I'm not sure why any P4 school would schedule an OOC heavyweight. The committee and talking heads may talk about SOS, but until they pick a 3 loss B10 or SEC team over a 2 loss B10 or SEC team because the extra loss was to a major OOC team, scheduling those games just makes it harder to do the only thing anyone cares about - making the playoffs.

I would also be surprised if PSU knew that VaTech was going to back out of their series with PSU at the time they made the schedule.
 

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Ask Pat Kraft. He scheduled the series about ten years ago. It's a 2-for-1, with the third game in Norman 1in 2028.
Interesting. But my question stands: what does PK have on the Sooners AD and Lions AD (Barbour, presumably) that he somehow elevated Temple from a pay game opponent to a home and home opponent for schools from power conferences.