Does Anyone Associated with UK Football Program Know How to Recruit a QB?

UKWinsAgainYep

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I cannot believe how incompetent Mark Stoops and company have been with recruiting QBs.

Can ANYONE PLEASE find a QB who can PLAY IN THE SEC!!!

ANYONE!!!

This is beyond ridiculous.

Meanwhile, UL and Bobby Petrino have a QB every season that torches us....
 
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I cannot believe how incompetent Mark Stoops and company have been with recruiting QBs.

Can ANYONE PLEASE find a QB who can PLAY IN THE SEC!!!

ANYONE!!!

This is beyond ridiculous.

Meanwhile, UL and Bobby Petrino have a QB every season that torches us....
Bobby P could make a serviceable quarterback out of your girlfriend........and give her a free ride on his motorcycle.
 

UKat51

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I cannot believe how incompetent Mark Stoops and company have been with recruiting QBs.

Can ANYONE PLEASE find a QB who can PLAY IN THE SEC!!!

ANYONE!!!

This is beyond ridiculous.

Meanwhile, UL and Bobby Petrino have a QB every season that torches us....


Towles and Phillips transferred. Barker is hurt. Johnson is trying give our player come credit. He is 3-1 as a starter
 

TBCat

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Recruiting one isn't the hard part. We should have been successful with Towles or Barker. The problem is what we are doing with them once they are here. Tim Couch sucked as well when Bill Curry was his coach.
 
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UKWinsAgainYep

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Recruiting one isn't the hard part. We should have been successful with Towles or Barker. The problem is what we are doing with them once they are here. Tim Couch sucked as well when Bill Curry was his coach.

Very true, but Towles and Barker were both "deer in headlights" afraid of the game.

Why can't UK just get a serviceable QB? We have the worst QB coaches in the history of college football.

Once again, thanks Mitch. You know NOTHING about football.
 

UKfan2151

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Once Barker gets over his injury, he very well could develop into quite a capable QB. He sure looked great that first half against USM. The guy has the tools, he just needs the experience.
 

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If we can get Danny Clark, that would be a good start to go with Barker. Gran and Hinshaw will help in finding someone who will fit their system.

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 

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Im sure Gran and Hinshaw can gets us a few. We land QB stud from ohio that will be a great start. Hooefully we get that dual threat that we are vattling UL for. That will be a tuff battle to win.
 

BBNDMV

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I cannot believe how incompetent Mark Stoops and company have been with recruiting QBs.

Can ANYONE PLEASE find a QB who can PLAY IN THE SEC!!!

ANYONE!!!

This is beyond ridiculous.

Meanwhile, UL and Bobby Petrino have a QB every season that torches us....
Apparently you know how too given your current position as a message board poster....are you holding one of those Quality control positions? How much they pay you??
 

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We've recruited them just fine. A lot of P5 schools wanted Towles and Barker both. We just had a QB recruit flip to the #1 ranked team in the country. We're doin ok recruiting them. We have a real problem developing them once they get on campus though. Gran and Hinshaw were supposed to help with that aspect. Jury's still out I guess but I'm not impressed so far.
 

KyCatFan1

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Unfortunately we were spoiled by the mid 90's to around the late 00's. A number of quality quarterbacks came here and we're pretty successful. Not all were on good teams though but all would be an improvement over what we have had for the last 6 or 7 years. Yet Towles and Barker were both rated around as good or better than all but Couch.

So is the problem that those two are overrated, in the wrong system, or are they not being coached up as well? Surely Towles and Barker could be successful in an offense like Leach's offense. Dusty Bonner put up really good numbers in the Air Raid and he was average at best. I'd bet if we hired Leach, Barker would put up huge numbers. If Stoops is fired at the end of the season, I hope we go after Leach.
 

UKWinsAgainYep

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Unfortunately we were spoiled by the mid 90's to around the late 00's. A number of quality quarterbacks came here and we're pretty successful. Not all were on good teams though but all would be an improvement over what we have had for the last 6 or 7 years. Yet Towles and Barker were both rated around as good or better than all but Couch.

So is the problem that those two are overrated, in the wrong system, or are they not being coached up as well? Surely Towles and Barker could be successful in an offense like Leach's offense. Dusty Bonner put up really good numbers in the Air Raid and he was average at best. I'd bet if we hired Leach, Barker would put up huge numbers. If Stoops is fired at the end of the season, I hope we go after Leach.


Towles looks like garbage at BC.

Barker....Call me not impressed. He looks like a "deer in headlights" most games.
 

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Gran and Hinshaw are good coaches but they're handicapped because Barker is hurt and they had to scramble to find Johnson because they desperately needed depth.

Wrong. They are screwed because they are under a dumbass that had no business being a SEC head football coach. Stoops is pathetic.
 

51stFan

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Towles looks like garbage at BC.

Barker....Call me not impressed. He looks like a "deer in headlights" most games.

BC might have a worse offense than us. Like was alluded to above, coaches like Leach or Petrino would of made functional QBs out of Towles and Barker.
 

morgousky

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Apparently you know how too given your current position as a message board poster....are you holding one of those Quality control positions? How much they pay you??

Dude, seriously, no one here is paid to recruit for uk, we are actually paying for these coaches to do their damn job.

You keep repeating the same old tired line "ARE YOU COACH!!!!!"

Get a clue.
 

UKWinsAgainYep

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BC might have a worse offense than us. Like was alluded to above, coaches like Leach or Petrino would of made functional QBs out of Towles and Barker.

Not so sure about that....I saw from day one that Towles did not have what it takes between his ears. He was a deer in headlights from day one and nothing has changed.

Barker, more of the same....Garbage. Stupid plays and a nervous wreck.

At least Stephen Johnson is more relaxed and not a deer in headlights.

He just needs to learn how to throw a decent pass and he might be o.k.
 

CB3UK

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Gran and Hinshaw are good coaches but they're handicapped because Barker is hurt and they had to scramble to find Johnson because they desperately needed depth.
This. Johnson wasn't meant to be the guy, he was meant to provide depth for Barker and a failsafe to keep from having to burn Hoak's redshirt. It was a smart move. We're going to go as far as Johnson can take us. Ive been very critical of this staff and while Johnson isnt the answer and did not play well tonight he is out there giving 100%. I respect that. Hopefully he can improve his decision making skills. Too many under/over thrown passes tonight or in to significant coverage. That will kill us against the back half of our schedule.
 
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BBNDMV

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Dude, seriously, no one here is paid to recruit for uk, we are actually paying for these coaches to do their damn job.

You keep repeating the same old tired line "ARE YOU COACH!!!!!"

Get a clue.
Actually, I haven't repeated anything in this thread. On another note, thank you for clarifying that no one here is paid to recruit for U.K. Also, anyone who begins a rebuttle with "Dude" has lost all credibility before the rest of the thought ( oh wait, that would require a brain) before a comment was finished being posted. You must be one of those U.K. Basketball/UofL football fans???? No??? Maybe??? HUH??? Dude??? Brau??
 

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Not so sure about that....I saw from day one that Towles did not have what it takes between his ears. He was a deer in headlights from day one and nothing has changed.

Barker, more of the same....Garbage. Stupid plays and a nervous wreck.

At least Stephen Johnson is more relaxed and not a deer in headlights.

He just needs to learn how to throw a decent pass and he might be o.k.

When do the coaches start getting blamed for lack of player development? These guys came in with as many stars of anyone since Couch. Hal Mumme had his son Matt moving the ball here. It's part of the coaches responsibility to put the player in situations to succeed.
 

morgousky

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Actually, I haven't repeated anything in this thread. On another note, thank you for clarifying that no one here is paid to recruit for U.K. Also, anyone who begins a rebuttle with "Dude" has lost all credibility before the rest of the thought ( oh wait, that would require a brain) before a comment was finished being posted. You must be one of those U.K. Basketball/UofL football fans???? No??? Maybe??? HUH??? Dude??? Brau??

And bro.
 
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Blue Decade

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I cannot believe how incompetent Mark Stoops and company have been with recruiting QBs.

Can ANYONE PLEASE find a QB who can PLAY IN THE SEC!!!

ANYONE!!!

This is beyond ridiculous.

Meanwhile, UL and Bobby Petrino have a QB every season that torches us....
Ignorant post that ought to embarrass you. Drew Barker was a 4-star prospect. Jarren Williams is a 4-star prospect. Danny Clark, who appears to be strongly considering our program, is a 4-star prospect. And Stoops came close to signing Mac Jones and Austin Kendall. It isn't like Stoops doesn't know who to recruit.
 
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UKWinsAgainYep

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Ignorant post that ought to embarrass you. Drew Barker was a 4-star prospect. Jarren Williams is a 4-star prospect. Danny Williams, who appears to be strongly considering our program, is a 4-star prospect. And Stoops came close to signing Mac Jones and Austin Kendall. It isn't like Stoops doesn't know who to recruit.

Hate to tell you, Barker looks awful so far. Towles was not a good qb. Fact is, this staff has shown no ability to manage or evaluate QB talent.

Stephen Johnson looks better than Barker.....I think that tells you something.
 

Blue Decade

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Hate to tell you, Barker looks awful so far. Towles was not a good qb. Fact is, this staff has shown no ability to manage or evaluate QB talent.

Stephen Johnson looks better than Barker.....I think that tells you something.
1. Stoops didn't recruit Towles, so Towles has nothing to do with my comment, or with the premise of the thread. But Towles ranks #6 on Kentucky's career passing list, although he only started 33 games. Those are facts, not feelings. 2. Barker is an injured sophomore who has started 6 games. If you want to give up on him this fast, that's your business. But Barker was a 4 star recruit with a committable offer from Steve Spurrier. Barker has already played for 3 offensive coordinators. LOL! 3. Many of our fans expect young players to arrive on campus and play like NFL players as freshmen and sophomores. That shows a lack of knowledge about college football. 4. The premise of my comment was that I disagree with the guy who said Stoops doesn't know how to recruit quarterbacks. It's simply inaccurate to say Stoops hasn't gone very hard after excellent high school quarterback prospects. Barker, Kendall, Jones, Clark, Williams, others.
 

Ukbrassowtipin

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Also, the guy that recruited Lamar Jackson is on our staff now.

One thing I won't give stoops hell about is recruiting. Are people under the impression that bringing Johnson in was because they thought he was going to log a bunch of clock and not out of necessity after transfers?
 

Grumpyolddawg

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I cannot believe how incompetent Mark Stoops and company have been with recruiting QBs.

Can ANYONE PLEASE find a QB who can PLAY IN THE SEC!!!

ANYONE!!!

This is beyond ridiculous.

Meanwhile, UL and Bobby Petrino have a QB every season that torches us....

The issue isn't arm talent. Eason had the worst game at QB by a UGA qb since Buck Blue Belue in the 1980 Sugar Bowl, he did't complete a pass. Eason was a highly recruited 5* qb, but he is a true frosh from a state not noted for producing D1 football talent. LB are faster than players he saw in HS and the game hasn't slowed down for him. It might never slow down for him or it could happen this week. Its a chance you take with every qb out of HS, So what I am saying is no matter what ranking or number of stars a qb has coming out of HS the college game is played faster than anything he has ever seen before, how quick it can slow it down in his mind and make his decisions quicker determines how good a college qb he will turn out to be.
 

megablue

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Barker was clearly very good in high school, of course, but reports I heard from creditable sources where that most coaches in Northern Kentucky all seemed to agree that Towles was the better of the two.......at least in high school.
 

vhcat70

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Danny Williams, who appears to be strongly considering our program, is a 4-star prospect. And Stoops came close to signing Mac Jones and Austin Kendall.
Williams actually 3* by this site. MJ to UK unlikely but not done deal as I understand - unless the Williams thing has taken over.
 

vhcat70

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Barker was clearly very good in high school, of course, but reports I heard from creditable sources where that most coaches in Northern Kentucky all seemed to agree that Towles was the better of the two.......at least in high school.
Saw both play in HS several times & thought Towles better. PT certainly had more talent around him though. That proves nothing.
 

shutzhund

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A qb is only as good as his supporting cast allows him to be in the passing game.

Case in point, last nights Bengals qb. He was getting killed out there and he is, without a doubt, a good qb
 

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I cannot believe how incompetent Mark Stoops and company have been with recruiting QBs.

Can ANYONE PLEASE find a QB who can PLAY IN THE SEC!!!

ANYONE!!!


This is beyond ridiculous.

Meanwhile, UL and Bobby Petrino have a QB every season that torches us....


Does Anyone Associated with UK Football Program Know How to Recruit an offensive line?

Until you solve this problem it won't make a difference who you have back there.
 

reflaine

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Does Anyone Associated with UK Football Program Know How to Recruit an offensive line?

Until you solve this problem it won't make a difference who you have back there.
Yeah I don't think five star Landon young, the number one center in country along side of him (jackson) are good enough to play here. It's not like there are great lineman piled on a grape vine just waiting to be picked.

Sec olineman play against the defensive Lineman in the country. And those other schools are after the big time players also. It's not like we are not trying to recruit good lineman. Guys like Big George, bunchie stallings are growing into serviceable lineman. Heck we have ran the ball with pretty good success lately with everyone knowing what was coming against some really good rush defenses. But lineman develope slowly. There are very few lineman who are ready to play out of high school. We got one of those in young. Holding to redshirt jackson, and we return 8/9 of our current lineman on the rotation right now. It's the best we have ever been up front on o.

That being said we have to continue to recruit and develope well. (I was all over schlarman,but this line play of late has been pretty good lately and a nice surprise). But the line has actually been a nice surprise and are actually pretty young also.
 

kb22stang

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We have the worst QB coaches in the history of college football.

Once again, thanks Mitch. You know NOTHING about football.

Wrong. They are screwed because they are under a dumbass that had no business being a SEC head football coach. Stoops is pathetic.

And this is the reason that UK gets what it deserves out of it's football program. Fans that don't know **** but are constantly upset because our team doesn't put up video game numbers.
 
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