Does EJ get a thousand?

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Those were exceptional running backs and as I said this year will depend on our running backs being very good to exceptional and our OL showing positive improvement which they seem to be headed towards. I absolutely believe one back cannot carry the entire load the entire season which will limit carries, it will take a group to get the job done. One other thing, the BIG of 10 to 15 years ago is not the BIG of today and our DC even mentioned the BIG as being very similar to the NFL in regards to running and defending the run, it's hard and physical.
Last year there were more 1,000 yard rushers in the B1G (9) than any other P4 conference

BigXII - 8
ACC - 8
SEC - 3

your perception does not appear to align with reality
 

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Last year there were more 1,000 yard rushers in the B1G (9) than any other P4 conference

BigXII - 8
ACC - 8
SEC - 3

your perception does not appear to align with reality
This post is about EJ and a 1000 yards and as I posted it will take a lot of effort from not only EJ but our OL and our other running backs. I stand by my thoughts about the BIG being a physical conference designed to run the ball and to stop the run, it's not just my beliefs but those of our defensive coordinator.

Never said no players in the BIG could ever reach a 1000 yards but rather it would take a lot to do so and that it would be much easier in other conferences such as the BIG12, Mountain West, CUSA, AAC,ETC.

Will EJ get a 1000 yards this year as the original poster asked? I think it will take a lot of doing and a lot of things will have to fall into place. I think he can do it and I hope he does because if he does it means Nebraska will have had a great year. jmo
 

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This post is about EJ and a 1000 yards and as I posted it will take a lot of effort from not only EJ but our OL and our other running backs. I stand by my thoughts about the BIG being a physical conference designed to run the ball and to stop the run, it's not just my beliefs but those of our defensive coordinator.

Never said no players in the BIG could ever reach a 1000 yards but rather it would take a lot to do so and that it would be much easier in other conferences such as the BIG12, Mountain West, CUSA, AAC,ETC.

Will EJ get a 1000 yards this year as the original poster asked? I think it will take a lot of doing and a lot of things will have to fall into place. I think he can do it and I hope he does because if he does it means Nebraska will have had a great year. jmo
if it was much easier, don't you think the numbers would reflect that?

I agree with those who are concerned about EJ's durability and our wanting to actually run the ball. 750 is about what I expect.
 

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if it was much easier, don't you think the numbers would reflect that?

I agree with those who are concerned about EJ's durability and our wanting to actually run the ball. 750 is about what I expect.
EJ averaged 79 ypg in the four games with Holgerson at OC. Multiply that by 12 and you get 942 yards. In three of those four games, he was splitting carries with Dowdell and in the other, Rahmir. So you are predicting his productivity will actually drop even though he is clearly the #1 RB this year and will likely average between 15-20 cpg.
 
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EJ averaged 79 ypg in the four games with Holgerson at OC. Multiply that by 12 and you get 942 yards. In three of those four games, he was splitting carries with Dowdell and in the other, Rahmir. So you are predicting his productivity will actually drop even though he is clearly the #1 RB this year and will likely average between 15-20 cpg.
I expect his per game production to be about the same

just don’t think he’ll play all 12

he’s not been the most durable during his time at NU, and making the leap to 220+ carries in a season is much more easily predicted than done
 

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Here's where I'm at as far as rushing goes in the BIG conference and what it takes to get to 1000 yards. Right now you only have about four or five schools who have the offensive lines and running backs with the talent to get a player to 1000 yards.

Now Nebraska is starting to trend in a positive position in regards to the OL but they are not yet elite so it will take a really good running back to get to 1000 yards not impossible but not an easy task.

The BIG is built along the lines of the NFL and it models itself like the league, it's based on run the ball and stop the run. The elite teams in the BIG know this and that's why those elite teams are at the top year in and year out.
 

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I expect his per game production to be about the same

just don’t think he’ll play all 12

he’s not been the most durable during his time at NU, and making the leap to 220+ carries in a season is much more easily predicted than done
On the durability - there is no evidence from a search of the internets that EJ has been injured in any significant way since he arrived in Lincoln. I hope NU doesn't need 1000 out of EJ, because that will mean that one or more of the other backs is competent enough to share the load, as opposed to getting carries in a series or two.
 

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On the durability - there is no evidence from a search of the internets that EJ has been injured in any significant way since he arrived in Lincoln. I hope NU doesn't need 1000 out of EJ, because that will mean that one or more of the other backs is competent enough to share the load, as opposed to getting carries in a series or two.
you need an internet search to remember he's been routinely dinged up the last 2 seasons? ankle hampered him in '23 and again last year.

I agree it would be nice to have a full compliment of competent backs.
 

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you need an internet search to remember he's been routinely dinged up the last 2 seasons? ankle hampered him in '23 and again last year.

I agree it would be nice to have a full compliment of competent backs.
I need an internet search to see what was actually reported out from the program. Nothing about an ankle injury. Injuries to other backs, sure. But not a sentence about EJ even being dinged up, limited, out for a game.
 

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Here's where I'm at as far as rushing goes in the BIG conference and what it takes to get to 1000 yards. Right now you only have about four or five schools who have the offensive lines and running backs with the talent to get a player to 1000 yards.

Now Nebraska is starting to trend in a positive position in regards to the OL but they are not yet elite so it will take a really good running back to get to 1000 yards not impossible but not an easy task.

The BIG is built along the lines of the NFL and it models itself like the league, it's based on run the ball and stop the run. The elite teams in the BIG know this and that's why those elite teams are at the top year in and year out.
Again, 9 B1G backs eclipsed the 1,000 yard mark in 2024.

Most of any P4 conference.

I understand these are your feelings, but we do have these things called facts which can be helpful.
 
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I would think you would have to consider the number of teams in the league in comparison to the number of RB that ran for 1000 yards. Considering the Big 10 has 18, the ACC 17 and the Big 12 16, it would appear the Big 12 and the Big 10 each had 1 RB for every 2 teams, to run for 1000 yards and the ACC 1 for every 2.125 teams.

Or one could look at the fact that 3 Big 12 backs run over 1500 yards compared to 1 for the Big Ten. Or that 4 of the top 15 rushers came from the Big 12 with 1 coming from the Big Ten.
 
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I would think you would have to consider the number of teams in the league in comparison to the number of RB that ran for 1000 yards. Considering the Big 10 has 18, the ACC 17 and the Big 12 16, it would appear the Big 12 and the Big 10 each had 1 RB for every 2 teams, to run for 1000 yards and the ACC 1 for every 2.125 teams.

Or one could look at the fact that 3 Big 12 backs run over 1500 yards compared to 1 for the Big Ten. Or that 4 of the top 15 rushers came from the Big 12 with 1 coming from the Big Ten.
to summarize:

the B1G and Big XII appear to be the easiest leagues in which to produce a 1k yard rusher
then the ACC

and not even viewable on the chart is the SEC

thanks, Tuco!
 

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I think EJ will get to the 1,000 yard mark in all-purpose yards. Leaning towards a 800 rush / 250 receiving ratio.
EJ had 286 yds receiving last and only had eight catches in the first six games of the season. He will be closer to 400 yards receiving unless he gets injured.
 

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Extrapolation is a simplistic fallacy.

Every rotisserie baseball player knows this.
It’s just math. If anything, his role in the offense may increase compared to the last four games last season. I don’t care about rotisserie baseball.
 
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Extrapolation is simply fallacy, but using the results and trends of Mike Riley and Scott Frost coached teams as a way to predict what Matt Rhule coached teams will do in one score games, well that is different. Or claiming Nebraska will be an Air Raid team that throw the ball 50 times a game because that is what Dana Holgersen does, that is accurate.
 
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Extrapolation is simply fallacy, but using the results and trends of Mike Riley and Scott Frost coached teams as a way to predict what Matt Rhule coached teams will do in one score games, well that is different. Or claiming Nebraska will be an Air Raid team that throw the ball 50 times a game because that is what Dana Holgersen does, that is accurate.
My thinking on this is the numbers support him being in the 1K range, but will he need to be used that much and is he durable enough to be used that much. He and the offense are good enough for him to get 4 figures.
 

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Extrapolation is simply fallacy, but using the results and trends of Mike Riley and Scott Frost coached teams as a way to predict what Matt Rhule coached teams will do in one score games, well that is different. Or claiming Nebraska will be an Air Raid team that throw the ball 50 times a game because that is what Dana Holgersen does, that is accurate.
Riley, Rhule and Frost were all .500 coaches when hired by NU with a fairly representative sample size (read: >4 games). Theres statistical relevance there (duh).

Two have thus far produced as expected, one was a horrendous flop

Passive aggression is unbecoming on you, Tuco
 
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My thinking on this is the numbers support him being in the 1K range, but will he need to be used that much and is he durable enough to be used that much. He and the offense are good enough for him to get 4 figures.
I completely agree in that if he stays healthy EJ will get 1000 yards. I should have put the sarcasm emoji in there.


Riley, Rhule and Frost were all .500 coaches when hired by NU with a fairly representative sample size (read: >4 games). Theres statistical relevance there (duh).

Two have thus far produced as expected, one was a horrendous flop

Passive aggression is unbecoming on you, Tuco
I just find it funny that people will use stats in a vacuum like Riley, Frost and Rhule all arrived at Nebraska as .500 coaches. But do not consider that Frost was a college head coach for 2 years, Riley had been a college coach for 14 years and Rhule a college coach for 7 years. The programs they coached previously were all very different situations when they took on those jobs. It is a lazy argument.

Frost has had 6 losing seasons out of 7 as a collegiate head coach and 1 season with 10 or more wins.
Riley has had 8 losing seasons out of 17 and 1 season with 10 or more wins.
Rhule has had 3 losing seasons out of 9 and 3 seasons with 10 or more wins.
On top of that Rhule's win total either stayed the same (1 time 10 wins in 2015 and 2016) as the previous year or improved at each school.

To state that those 3 coaches are even in the same neighborhood, simply because their overall winning pct was somewhat similar when they came to Nebraska is simply dishonest.
 
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I completely agree in that if he stays healthy EJ will get 1000 yards. I should have put the sarcasm emoji in there.



I just find it funny that people will use stats in a vacuum like Riley, Frost and Rhule all arrived at Nebraska as .500 coaches. But do not consider that Frost was a college head coach for 2 years, Riley had been a college coach for 14 years and Rhule a college coach for 7 years. The programs they coached previously were all very different situations when they took on those jobs. It is a lazy argument.

Frost has had 6 losing seasons out of 7 as a collegiate head coach and 1 season with 10 or more wins.
Riley has had 8 losing seasons out of 17 and 1 season with 10 or more wins.
Rhule has had 3 losing seasons out of 9 and 3 seasons with 10 or more wins.
On top of that Rhule's win total either stayed the same (1 time 10 wins in 2015 and 2016) as the previous year or improved at each school.

To state that those 3 coaches are even in the same neighborhood, simply because their overall winning pct was somewhat similar when they came to Nebraska is simply dishonest.
So you disagree that Riley and Rhule so far performed as expected at NU?