Does it surprise anyone that most of the least educated states in US are the Red states. Why?

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Primus loves the divisive culture that poisons our country. He plays into it.
The "United" States is becoming more to being the "Divided" States of America thanks to our politicians, media and people like Primus.
I don't like any politician from either side. We have to aim higher than Trump, Biden, Queen Hillary, Sanders, Bush, and Obama, but we seem to distance ourselves from selecting the best and brightest people to run for office every four years.
Biden running again cannot be taken seriously, especially with Harris as VP, who would likely assume the presidency before Biden would finish his second term. This projection will put Trump back in office.
Both parties have to get serious about producing legitimate (and younger) candidates. but that's not happening.
At least, Biden hasn't tried to overthrow our government. He did not steal highly secret military documents to sell to the highest bidder for financial gains. He does not support white supremacists who have already divided this country. There's absolutely nothing divisive about my observations. The difference between you and I is that I try to point out the obvious, while others think it's uncomfortable to talk about. I try to expose the ills of our society, while others want to sweep them under the rug and pretend they dont exist. Until we tackle the elephant in the room through civil discourse and compassion, and do away with petty propaganda and misinformation, we are capitulating to the demise of this expetiment called America.
 

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At least, Biden hasn't tried to overthrow our government. He did not steal highly secret military documents to sell to the highest bidder for financial gains. He does not support white supremacists who have already divided this country. There's absolutely nothing divisive about my observation. The difference between you and I is that I try to point out obvious, while others think it's uncomfortable to talk about. I try to expose the ills of our society, while others want to sweep them under the rug and pretend they dont exist. Until we tackle the elephant in the room through civil discourse and compassion, and away with petty propaganda and misinformation, we are capitulating to the demise of this expetiment called America.
Pay more attention. You can do it. 👍
 

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You are way off on this statement. Blue states have way higher unemployment. Where did you get red states mooch off blue states?? When most red states do so much better than these run down blue states. You have obviously never been to Chicago, Detroit, LA, Seattle, biggest **** holes in America I don't care what you say.
Ignorance is bliss. You don't care about facts because you're too scared to get rid of your indoctrination. You shouldn't believe something because it helps you deal with your insecurity. It's better to believe in facts and it may boost your self-esteem.
 

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Ignorance is bliss. You don't care about facts because you're too scared to get rid of your indoctrination. You shouldn't believe something because it helps you deal with your insecurity. It's better to believe in facts and it may boost your self-esteem.
Give 24/7 politics a shot. Bring yer sisters. 🤣
 

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At least, Biden hasn't tried to overthrow our government. He did not steal highly secret military documents to sell to the highest bidder for financial gains. He does not support white supremacists who have already divided this country. There's absolutely nothing divisive about my observations. The difference between you and I is that I try to point out the obvious, while others think it's uncomfortable to talk about. I try to expose the ills of our society, while others want to sweep them under the rug and pretend they dont exist. Until we tackle the elephant in the room through civil discourse and compassion, and do away with petty propaganda and misinformation, we are capitulating to the demise of this expetiment called America.
Promise, you live and die on one side of the left vs right political rivalry.
While you point out “the obvious” craziness on one side, you ignore the craziness of the other side.
Both sides, to me, represent their parts of the political landscape that divide us more and more by people who have no sense of statesmanship.
 

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Promise, you live and die on one side of the left vs right political rivalry.
While you point out “the obvious” craziness on one side, you ignore the craziness of the other side.
Both sides, to me, represent their parts of the political landscape that divide us more and more by people who have no sense of statesmanship.
Fighting for fairness, equality and diversity is not divisive, in my opinion.
 

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Fighting for fairness, equality and diversity is not divisive, in my opinion.
Of course not, but you subscribe to one party's doctrine to achieve it, and that party has been hijacked by woke philosophies.
Not that the other side has any answers, either.
 

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Fighting for fairness, equality and diversity is not divisive, in my opinion.
To be fair, the Left had a moment a few years ago where they were going nuts, and the Right is having a moment currently. CTOkie is probably just eluding to the notion both sides need to sift out the loonies and recenter more towards the middle. the Right can probably wrap their heads around a lot of stuff the left is doing if they drop the insane stuff like gender reassignment surgery for kids, and the left can probably wrap their head around a lot of what the right is doing if they drop the insane stuff like Trump/January6 support and the absolute refusal to even talk about anything related to gun control
 

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Pay more attention. You can do it. 👍
I have only been on these political messages boards for a few days but it’s becoming clear you’re a non-factor. Just stop commenting and save us all the headache of having to read your half-sentence posts followed by an emoji.
 

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Of course not, but you subscribe to one party's doctrine to achieve it, and that party has been hijacked by woke philosophies.
Not that the other side has any answers, either.
Serious question- outside of gay rights and trans rights, what "woke" philosophies are you referring to?
 

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Of course not, but you subscribe to one party's doctrine to achieve it, and that party has been hijacked by woke philosophies.
Not that the other side has any answers, either.
Please, enlighten me on what the political concept or construct of "Woke", means to you.
 

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I have only been on these political messages boards for a few days but it’s becoming clear you’re a non-factor. Just stop commenting and save us all the headache of having to read your half-sentence posts followed by an emoji.
Highly recommend ignore on that one. He has never offered anything to the discussion.
 

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Fighting for fairness, equality and diversity is not divisive, in my opinion.
Indeed, that's what it used to be and that was a good thing. but I think they are going for more than that. It's gotten pretty bad. Weird **** is happening in academia, it's seeping into the workplace, it's around kids and it's way more in your face than it ever was.
 

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To be fair, the Left had a moment a few years ago where they were going nuts, and the Right is having a moment currently. CTOkie is probably just eluding to the notion both sides need to sift out the loonies and recenter more towards the middle. the Right can probably wrap their heads around a lot of stuff the left is doing if they drop the insane stuff like gender reassignment surgery for kids, and the left can probably wrap their head around a lot of what the right is doing if they drop the insane stuff like Trump/January6 support and the absolute refusal to even talk about anything related to gun control
In my view, i see the left is going extra nuts, and the right is responding by going extra nuts, and they are egging eachother on to see which fringe can be more nutty. What's ironic is that they are both authoritarian about it too and the hyperbole, straw manning, ad hominem, bickering selective outrage, and superlatives are all at an all time high.

I blame the right though, they started it by electing an anti intellectual belligerent who ran on a platform of insults and demagoguery. And he was so horrible that the next ridiculous guy won just because his name isnt trump.
 

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In my view, i see the left is going extra nuts, and the right is responding by going extra nuts, and they are egging eachother on to see which fringe can be more nutty. What's ironic is that they are both authoritarian about it too and the hyperbole, straw manning, ad hominem, bickering selective outrage, and superlatives are all at an all time high
You ain't been around long junior.
 

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Wow you are completely right you know why that is right. The population in red states is smaller than in blue states. Duh. I'm done this was a stupid statement to begin with and also who really cares at this point our government is in shambles. It needs to be completely dismantled and start over with just our constitution and no amendments to it.
Our government is shambles because the previous con man aka president tried to dismantle our government and constitution. It's in shambles because your party is in the minority and you can't stand democracy. It's in shambles because instead of trying to sell your party's agenda, you want to take the short cut and bend the rules and laws to put you in power. America doesn't want what you're selling. Your misinformation and propaganda have been successful to an extent, but American people are waking up to the fact that your party has nothing to offer but hate, choas and grift.
 

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Please, enlighten me on what the political concept or construct of "Woke", means to you.
While I am in favor of freedom for all in a democratic republic, I am not in favor of woke attempts to sanitize our nation's history by defacing or removing monuments and statues of historical figures.
Every country on earth has had its share of "skeletons in the closet". It's part of human evolution.
We have to learn from history to make us better people....but so far I haven't seen that happening and the woke movement further obstructs us from doing so.
We are all part of the HUMAN race, not separate races, and we should not be put in separate racial categories as the woke movement and the BLM movement do on one side and as the forces of bigotry do on the other side.
Our so-called "leaders" play right into this divisiveness, pitting us against each other as we keep drinking their Kool Aid.
 

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While I am in favor of freedom for all in a democratic republic, I am not in favor of woke attempts to sanitize our nation's history by defacing or removing monuments and statues of historical figures.
Every country on earth has had its share of "skeletons in the closet". It's part of human evolution.
We have to learn from history to make us better people....but so far I haven't seen that happening and the woke movement further obstructs us from doing so.
We are all part of the HUMAN race, not separate races, and we should not be put in separate racial categories as the woke movement and the BLM movement do on one side and as the forces of bigotry do on the other side.
Our so-called "leaders" play right into this divisiveness, pitting us against each other as we keep drinking their Kool Aid.
You may not believe that ineqaulity still exist because you do not experience it. For those who do, it's not perception, but their reality, and it's an impediment mentally, psychologically and emotionally in their pursuit of happiness. The only reason you think and feel the way you do, is that you've never experienced the pain and humiliation minorities have to deal with in this country. No, we cannot move on when political and social institutions still have race-hatred structures in place to benefit the majority ethnic group. Until those structures are dismantled, then America can move on to form that elusive more perfect union. Just because, you as a person, may believe in equality and social justice, it does not automatically mean everybody else does. An example of how painful it is to have obstacles in your way because of your race, is how white america is incensed with affirmative action. They've forgotten that they still have affirmative action in their favor from birth. They can go anywhere they want without being followed or police called on them. They could apply for any job and get it without suspicion, and the same doesn't apply to Malik or Shabaya, or laquinta. Until white America embraces the beauty and huge economic and social benefits of diversity of a multiracial society, working together in unison to make our country the best that it can be and purge our anxiety about and people who don’t look like us, we are going to be a has-been empire just like the Roman empire of old. We should come together and fight those evil forces who are bent on destroying this beautiful country instead of letting them drag us back to the 1950s where black people are hung from trees, blacks are dismembered limb by limb, black homes and churches burnt down, curfews were imposed on black people to limit mobility, black people sat at the back of the bus, ate their lunch that they laid for at the back of the restaurant and had to carry pee cups where ever they went because they were not allowed to use public restrooms. I can't imagine what would happen if white people are experiencing this. The American pie is big enough for everyone. It's okay to share and we should stop thinking it's our birthright of color to have the lion share of the pie.
 
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You may not believe that ineqaulity still exist because you do not experience it. For those who do, it's not perception, but their reality, and it's an impediment mentally, psychologically and emotionally in their pursuit of happiness. The only reason you think and feel the way you do, is that you've never experienced the pain and humiliation minorities have to deal with in this country. No, we cannot move on when political and social institutions still have race-hatred structures in place to benefit the majority ethnic group. Until those structures are dismantled, then America can move on to form that elusive more perfect union. Just because, you as a person, may believe in equality and social justice, it does not automatically mean everybody else does. An example of how painful it is to have obstacles in your way because of your race, is how white america is incensed with affirmative action. They've forgotten that they still have affirmative action in their favor from birth. They can go anywhere they want without being followed or police called on them. They could apply for any job and get it without suspicion, and the same doesn't apply to Malik or Shabaya, or laquinta. Until white America embraces the beauty and huge economic and social benefits of diversity of a multiracial society, working together in unison to make our country the best that it can be and purge our anxiety about and people who don’t look like us, we are going to be a has-been empire just like the Roman empire of old. We should come together and fight those evil forces who are bent on destroying this beautiful country instead of letting them drag us back to the 1950s where black people are hung from trees, blacks are dismembered limb by limb, black homes and churches burnt down, curfews were imposed on black people to limit mobility, black people sat at the back of the bus, ate their lunch that they laid for at the back of the restaurant and had to carry pee cups where ever they went because they were not allowed to use public restrooms. I can't imagine what would happen if white people are experiencing this. The American pie is big enough for everyone. It's okay to share and we should stop thinking it's our birthright of color to have the lion share of the pie.
All you had to say was perception. Good luck. 👍
 

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You may not believe that ineqaulity still exist because you do not experience it. For those who do, it's not perception, but their reality, and it's an impediment mentally, psychologically and emotionally in their pursuit of happiness. The only reason you think and feel the way you do, is that you've never experienced the pain and humiliation minorities have to deal with in this country. No, we cannot move on when political and social institutions still have race-hatred structures in place to benefit the majority ethnic group. Until those structures are dismantled, then America can move on to form that elusive more perfect union. Just because, you as a person, may believe in equality and social justice, it does not automatically mean everybody else does. An example of how painful it is to have obstacles in your way because of your race, is how white america is incensed with affirmative action. They've forgotten that they still have affirmative action in their favor from birth. They can go anywhere they want without being followed or police called on them. They could apply for any job and get it without suspicion, and the same doesn't apply to Malik or Shabaya, or laquinta. Until white America embraces the beauty and huge economic and social benefits of diversity of a multiracial society, working together in unison to make our country the best that it can be and purge our anxiety about and people who don’t look like us, we are going to be a has-been empire just like the Roman empire of old. We should come together and fight those evil forces who are bent on destroying this beautiful country instead of letting them drag us back to the 1950s where black people are hung from trees, blacks are dismembered limb by limb, black homes and churches burnt down, curfews were imposed on black people to limit mobility, black people sat at the back of the bus, ate their lunch that they laid for at the back of the restaurant and had to carry pee cups where ever they went because they were not allowed to use public restrooms. I can't imagine what would happen if white people are experiencing this. The American pie is big enough for everyone. It's okay to share and we should stop thinking it's our birthright of color to have the lion share of the pie.
Inequality does exist and always will. It’s a very negative trait within mankind.
Where did I say I believed in inequality?
I’m not in need of a pompous, pious lecture on life by someone who seems to be on this board to bait others.
You are a master baiter.
 

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Inequality does exist and always will. It’s a very negative trait within mankind.
Where did I say I believed in inequality?
I’m not in need of a pompous, pious lecture on life by someone who seems to be on this board to bait others.
You are a master baiter.
And with all due respect sir, you're slow learner. No pun intended.
 

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I was a "professional tourist" from 1990 to May, 2003. My company was heavy into export. I quizzed many recent high school graduates in 47 states. I'm a harsh critic of our costly, miserable and failing public education system. I never heard a corrct answer for Name a US Supreme Court Justice.
Less than 10% correct answers for Name the smartest of all the primates.
Since primates have walked the earth, how much of our water supply have we exhausted?
Name the 3 branches of the Federal government.
Define Civics.
95% of respondents could tell me to whom Brad Pitt was married and Exxon is an evil polluter. I never quizzed a youngster in Rhode Island. Been there.

I watched LAY THE WOODY in a class room 60 minute time limit 60 question and directive M test provide correct answers proving an IQ in the mid 140s or higher. LAY THE WOODY and iasooner2000 can answer these 5 questions and directives. Both are aware of our failing peblic education system.

1. Are there any among us who has a fear of heights?
2. Name the single action without which time cannot exist.
3. Name man's most precious commodity.
4. Does time slow for me when i travel by jetliner at 30,000 feet?
5. Sarah said, " my two young daughters have absolutely nothing in common." Is Sarah lying?

My favotite questions in intelligence quotient testing are those designed to measure one's ability to reason. Who was the US president when Japan surrendered ending World WarII? does nothing for me. We have google.
 

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You need to pick it up genius.
My Make A Wish Foundation wish is to sit in a class room and observe caldoc intelligence quotient test along side some of this thread's "geniuses." I would give huge odds to scoring order. HUGE!!! All of us give gold mines of info with every post we author. About all caldoc gets wrong? It's a water heater.

Full disclosure: I'm trying my hardest to learn 3 languages. I'm not good with language, Spelling and word order I find hardest. In Engish I ask, "would you like to eat with me tomorrow nignt?" In German: "Would like you tomorrow night with me eat?

I've been reading this board for several days now. I always find humor when the slow suggests a much smarter person is a moron. I've seen such a couple times now.

I won't challenge CTOkie. LAY THE WOODY, iasooner2000, caldoc or 22LR to a class room intelligence quotient test session. I just might score lower.
 

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I was a "professional tourist" from 1990 to May, 2003. My company was heavy into export. I quizzed many recent high school graduates in 47 states. I'm a harsh critic of our costly, miserable and failing public education system. I never heard a corrct answer for Name a US Supreme Court Justice.
Less than 10% correct answers for Name the smartest of all the primates.
Since primates have walked the earth, how much of our water supply have we exhausted?
Name the 3 branches of the Federal government.
Define Civics.
95% of respondents could tell me to whom Brad Pitt was married and Exxon is an evil polluter. I never quizzed a youngster in Rhode Island. Been there.

I watched LAY THE WOODY in a class room 60 minute time limit 60 question and directive M test provide correct answers proving an IQ in the mid 140s or higher. LAY THE WOODY and iasooner2000 can answer these 5 questions and directives. Both are aware of our failing peblic education system.

1. Are there any among us who has a fear of heights?
2. Name the single action without which time cannot exist.
3. Name man's most precious commodity.
4. Does time slow for me when i travel by jetliner at 30,000 feet?
5. Sarah said, " my two young daughters have absolutely nothing in common." Is Sarah lying?

My favotite questions in intelligence quotient testing are those designed to measure one's ability to reason. Who was the US president when Japan surrendered ending World WarII? does nothing for me. We have google.
Among my favorite and I was lucky.
1. No.
2. Degradation of energy.
3. Time.
4. Yes.
5. Yes.

iasooner2000 can explain #1 should anybody question. Humans tend to overthink when problem solving. The student should never offer up reasoning to the administrator unless asked.