Does Mark Stoops Not Realize...

sluggercatfan

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Made the statement at his presser today..."I have have a lot of faith in these players and I hope the fans do to." Is he really serious with this comment? Is his ego so big that he cannot realize and grasp that IT IS HE AND HIS COACHING STAFF that the fans don't have faith in...good grief the guy is clueless! !
 

sluggercatfan

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Made the statement at his presser today..."I have have a lot of faith in these players and I hope the fans do to." Is he really serious with this comment? Is his ego so big that he cannot realize and grasp that IT IS HE AND HIS COACHING STAFF that the fans don't have faith in...good grief the guy is clueless! !
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kyjohn

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No , he doesn't have a clue.His statements only confirm what most on this board have been saying since year one.In fact his answers must be scripted from year one because nothing has changed.
 
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Faith is the evidence of things not seen .. so he has it half right
 

KentuckyStout

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He has said nothing new in 4 years.

He could make about $800,000 a year in interest alone on his buyout though. I feel just terrible for him.
 

Beatle Bum

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Made the statement at his presser today..."I have have a lot of faith in these players and I hope the fans do to." Is he really serious with this comment? Is his ego so big that he cannot realize and grasp that IT IS HE AND HIS COACHING STAFF that the fans don't have faith in...good grief the guy is clueless! !

Maybe he has faith in his players. Maybe he realizes that saying he lost faith in his players probably would get him more criticism from fans, lose his players, etc. Maybe his comment is really not that important. Maybe we just wait until Saturday and see how they play, instead of parsing every word of a coach that is in a hole. Because what he says during the week is not going to save his job or doom his job, at this point.
 

KentuckyStout

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We got behind the chains
We have to do better and that's on me
We have to go back to work
I have faith in these kids
We are a little dinged up
We are going to look at the film

blah blah blah
 

fuzz77

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I'm not sure I know what the OP wants Stoops to say...other than "I quit"?
Coaches are required to speak and give these press conferences. I'm sure at this point he'd rather not. His options are pretty much publicly throw everybody under the bus or try to put the best face on things and leave room for hope.
I put little stock in what coaches say publically. Been in too many locker rooms with too many different coaches in good times and bad. Seldom is their any correlation between the public speak and what is said to the teams.

I'm as frustrated as anyone but you're pretty well stuck with the players and coaching staff for the rest of the season. There is no waiver wire.

Our O and D lines are simply being dominated and until that changes nothing else will matter. We can have all the skill players in the world but without a group of big ugglies that can hold their own we're pissing in the wind.

I don't know but I still think that there are some internal problems in the locker room centered around a couple of players.
 

CHAMPCAT11

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I'm not sure I know what the OP wants Stoops to say...other than "I quit"?
Coaches are required to speak and give these press conferences. I'm sure at this point he'd rather not. His options are pretty much publicly throw everybody under the bus or try to put the best face on things and leave room for hope.
I put little stock in what coaches say publically. Been in too many locker rooms with too many different coaches in good times and bad. Seldom is their any correlation between the public speak and what is said to the teams.

I'm as frustrated as anyone but you're pretty well stuck with the players and coaching staff for the rest of the season. There is no waiver wire.

Our O and D lines are simply being dominated and until that changes nothing else will matter. We can have all the skill players in the world but without a group of big ugglies that can hold their own we're pissing in the wind.

I don't know but I still think that there are some internal problems in the locker room centered around a couple of players.

This statement is about as close as you can get. The only thing I'd add (and it's the thing that gets to me the most even though all coaches on their way out use it for a year or until they get fired) is that he's practicing his press conference comments more than he's practicing football. His first priority at this point is to get away with as much money and as much damage control as possible. He wants the cash and he wants to get hired in a lesser role so he can stay in the game he must love. By now he knows he's a failure and disliked by the large majority of the BBN so it's all politics. Why does it get to me the most ? Because we fans get double screwed once more and he walks in the near future with an ENORMOUS amount of money. It's not about wins and losses anymore.... he knows the losses are coming and the wins will be few and far between.
 
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Made the statement at his presser today..."I have have a lot of faith in these players and I hope the fans do to." Is he really serious with this comment? Is his ego so big that he cannot realize and grasp that IT IS HE AND HIS COACHING STAFF that the fans don't have faith in...good grief the guy is clueless! !

Stoops needs to have faith in Gran and let him run his damned offense! When he interferes with the O to "protect" his **** defense, he compounds the problem!

I don't care if the defense can't even stand up because they're so tired. Unless Kentucky tries to out score their opponents, they have NO CHANCE to win more than 2 of their remaining games.

Stoops needs to be put in charge of the defense and not be allowed to even make suggestions to Gran. Unfortunately for us fans, I don't know any way of making this happen.
 
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lex cath

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I was particularly interested in the almost five minutes he spent on explaining the Jordan Jones comment, basically trying to save him
 

sluggercatfan

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I'm not sure I know what the OP wants Stoops to say...other than "I quit"?
Coaches are required to speak and give these press conferences. I'm sure at this point he'd rather not. His options are pretty much publicly throw everybody under the bus or try to put the best face on things and leave room for hope.
I put little stock in what coaches say publically. Been in too many locker rooms with too many different coaches in good times and bad. Seldom is their any correlation between the public speak and what is said to the teams.

I'm as frustrated as anyone but you're pretty well stuck with the players and coaching staff for the rest of the season. There is no waiver wire.

Our O and D lines are simply being dominated and until that changes nothing else will matter. We can have all the skill players in the world but without a group of big ugglies that can hold their own we're pissing in the wind.

I don't know but I still think that there are some internal problems in the locker room centered around a couple of players.
To me...by his statement he is laying the blame with the players and that the fans feel the same way when nothing could be further from the truth!!! This mess is on HIM AND HIS COACHES!!!! I actually feel sorry for the players. I just got finished watching a replay of the UMass-fla game and the UMass staff out coached the fla staff so bad it wasn't even funny, but just didn't have enough in the tank at the end... MS is in WAY over his head and the sooner MB and the $$$$people figure it out and put an end to this the better off the program will be... If not I think you are going to see a fan revolt that will make Joker's look small.
 

KY1WING

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Got the makings of a good drinking game.

Or maybe the responses could be numbered so pressers could be like play calls

"Today, I say 1379

1=I still have faith in players
3=we have to work harder
7=the season is a 12 round fight and we have 10 more to go.
9=we have to hold our heads up"
 

BlueRunner11

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Obviously have no evidence of this, but my gut feeling is that the players have lost faith in Stoops.

I think he mis manages them, doesn't have their backs publicly when need be, and then firing one of their coaches only to have him come back and throttle your team would make any player question the decision making ability of their coach.

I dont know if I've ever seen a player in an interview or with the media since he's been here say anything close to giving merit to trusting their coach's leadership. Compare that with how the bball players speak of Cal.

A team has to be willing to fight for their coach. Not sure these guys are. Doesn't mean Stoops is a bad guy, the team needs leadership they can be confident in following and I don't think they are.
 

Blueaz

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Made the statement at his presser today..."I have have a lot of faith in these players and I hope the fans do to." Is he really serious with this comment? Is his ego so big that he cannot realize and grasp that IT IS HE AND HIS COACHING STAFF that the fans don't have faith in...good grief the guy is clueless! !
this is very similar to the "booing" of Pookie Jones...Curry blamed fans for booing, talked about it a lot...
We weren't booing Pookie at all.. THE BOOING WAS 100% DIRECTED AT CURRY. IT WAS CURRY, THE DECISION TO PLAY POOKIE, AND THE OFFENSE HE WAS TRYING TO RUN!!!
link to old article:https://news.google.com/newspapers?...AIBAJ&sjid=wkcEAAAAIBAJ&pg=6653,2810722&hl=en
 
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UKWinsAgainYep

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Stop whining. Most of you are just waiting on the edge of your seat to attack Stoops no matter what comes out of his mouth next.

There is NOTHING the guy could say right now that wouldn't result in all of you armchair Coaches whining that you're so outraged at what he said...

Save the outrage....Tired of hearing your manufactured outrage.

Come up with a solution better than Stoops has tried and I'll listen.

He knows more about football than all of you combined.
 
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fuzz77

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To me...by his statement he is laying the blame with the players and that the fans feel the same way when nothing could be further from the truth!!! This mess is on HIM AND HIS COACHES!!!! I actually feel sorry for the players. I just got finished watching a replay of the UMass-fla game and the UMass staff out coached the fla staff so bad it wasn't even funny, but just didn't have enough in the tank at the end... MS is in WAY over his head and the sooner MB and the $$$$people figure it out and put an end to this the better off the program will be... If not I think you are going to see a fan revolt that will make Joker's look small.
Let me first say that Stoops deserves a lot of blame, but the players are not blameless.

Something I feared and shared with a few friends when Stoops was first hired and was "recruiting well" has been more right than I ever wanted to be. While not a universal truth, more a rule of thumb...history has shown that regardless of coach, few highly rated recruits at UK ever live up to their billing.
I have long said that kids who have opportunities to go to high profile programs and pick UK because they think they will play early rarely work out. I think it shows a weakness in that they don't want competition, don't want to work their asses off for playing time. They get to play as freshman because of their talent and potential but they don't improve, don't get better. Whereas lesser recruited kids often have a chip on their shoulder and are willing to do the work. The problem of course is that everyone only has so much talent. Don't get me wrong, I want those highly ranked kids. But I want the ones that who want to work their asses off.
Of course the coaches have to be able to manage all of that. They need to identify what kids have the fire and those who are just looking for the easy road.

You simply can't take any one team's performance from one game and use it as a barometer of coaching. Too many intangibles. If UMASS and UF play 10 times UF beats them 10 times and probably puts a 40-50 pt beat down on them more times than not. How many times do you think Appy State takes UT to OT??? Players read the papers, listen to the hype. Because one team plays well and the other plays poorly isn't a solely because of coaching.

Where we can probably agree is the fact that too often UK has been humiliated...add the fact that they have lost too many games that they should have never lost and have really in CMS's tenure not beat anyone who they shouldn't have beaten. Color me very disappointed.

Coaches can only do so much and if there is turmoil in the locker room which I fear that's a tough nut to crack...especially if those problems are centered around some of your better players.

You wouldn't care what the coach said if they were winning...you shouldn't care what they say when they are losing. (Cal has said a lot of things that if they weren't winning would have the fan base at his throat...but he gets a pass because he wins) You should care about results. There are plenty of those about which to be pissed.
 

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To me...by his statement he is laying the blame with the players
Let me add...I purposely have not listened to his comments but I'm thinking that in addition to this statement he made other statements referencing to things that he and the coaches could have done better.
Am I right?
Wouldn't that just mean that there is plenty of blame to go around?
 

BlueVelvetFog

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Kooky Kats_anon

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Booing Curry for playing Pookie is booing Pookie regardless of how you want to spin it.

Hysterical!!!

You didn't like the offensive stylings of Elliot Uzelac and the ever-exciting I-Bone???

Every week, Bill would add a 'wrinkle' for the opponent to fear...

Good times! Go Cats! .... Not really.
 

LordEgg_rivals16573

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I don't understand fuzz's self appointed role as an apologist for the athletics administration on EVERY SINGLE GD ISSUE ever brought up.
 

WildcatofNati

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I don't understand fuzz's self appointed role as an apologist for the athletics administration on EVERY SINGLE GD ISSUE ever brought up.
I should have known that he was here doing it again, even though I can't read his posts.
 

Xception

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Coaches have to be positive , did you expect him to say they should fire me ? Or maybe he should say I do t have any faith in me or my team , we may not recover from this . What do you expect to hear ? If you were coach what would you say in a presser about your job .
 

uk_king_cat2

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Maybe he has faith in his players. Maybe he realizes that saying he lost faith in his players probably would get him more criticism from fans, lose his players, etc. Maybe his comment is really not that important. Maybe we just wait until Saturday and see how they play, instead of parsing every word of a coach that is in a hole. Because what he says during the week is not going to save his job or doom his job, at this point.
In all my life time it's been the same **** said just a different coach. You are just one of the sheep.
 

Beatle Bum

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In all my life time it's been the same **** said just a different coach. You are just one of the sheep.

Thanks. If ridiculously parsing the words of a coach spoken after a weekday practicing extricates me from the flock, keep me in the pen, please.