Does Notre Dame Wind Up In Our Region?

caneintally

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could see it happening but really i am not concerned who is in our bracket as this team will take on all comers and we seem to play up to the level of competition.
 
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2 seed in the East

Kansas sucks it as our 3
 

Seth C

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It's guaranteed. They will be in our region. Don't even think otherwise. Whether they need to be a 2 seed or a 3 seed or a 4 seed, they will be whichever one puts them in our region.
 

LadyCaytIL

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I think our 2 seed is now Virginia which means they won't put ND as the 3 seed. We'd probably get Iowa State or Maryland
 

UKWildcats#8

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Originally posted by Wildcat-in-STL:
I think our 2 seed is now Virginia which means they won't put ND as the 3 seed. We'd probably get Iowa State or Maryland
What? No one is saying this. I have finally got my hopes up UK is going to get the KU or Gonzaga 2 seed they deserve.
 

KYCAT78

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ND will be in our division as a 2,3, or 4. Makes perfect sense because Va. will be with Villanova. Wisky and Arizona in West and Duke and Kansas in South. Gonzaga will probably be our 2 and ND as our 3. This would set the brackets with the top 2 seeds not having a rematch from regular season.
 

UKWildcats#8

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Originally posted by KYCAT78:

ND will be in our division as a 2,3, or 4. Makes perfect sense because Va. will be with Villanova. Wisky and Arizona in West and Duke and Kansas in South. Gonzaga will probably be our 2 and ND as our 3. This would set the brackets with the top 2 seeds not having a rematch from regular season.
If it is Gonzaga as our 2 and ND as our 3, watch for someone like Oklahoma as our 4 and WST as our 5. And then OSU and NC State as our 8/9 game.

That region does not appear as tough as it could be on paper, but it is sure as hell not easy. I expect something along those lines.We could have got the above region with WISCONSIN as our 2 seed on top of it...so be thankful guys.
 

wild mandu

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Originally posted by Wildcat-in-STL:
I think our 2 seed is now Virginia which means they won't put ND as the 3 seed. We'd probably get Iowa State or Maryland
???

I haven't seen a single person put Virginia as our 2 seed. Whichever ACC team loses the 1 spot, UVA or Duke, is going East with Nova. It makes perfect sense.
 

J. Shellacque

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This is funny. All the soothsayers predicting the worst for us. But it will probably happen. Oh well. Bring it. Now our 2 seed is Virginia instead of Wisconsin....a team that was in the top 4 most of the year. The only constant in this whole discussion has been that Duke will be a 1 seed no matter what, and Gonzaga will be their 2 seed. On to the current. I hope we lay waste to the razorbacks.
 

KYCAT78

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I agree probably Oklahoma or someone else from Big12 will be our 4. Wichita State will probably be our 5 to set up a possible Sweet16 rematch.
 

Xception

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ND is quick at guard and be tough to contain but they have zero answers for UK on the interior at either end , we would outsize them to death .
 

UKWildcats#8

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Originally posted by J. Shellacque:
This is funny. All the soothsayers predicting the worst for us. But it will probably happen. Oh well. Bring it. Now our 2 seed is Virginia instead of Wisconsin....a team that was in the top 4 most of the year. The only constant in this whole discussion has been that Duke will be a 1 seed no matter what, and Gonzaga will be their 2 seed. On to the current. I hope we lay waste to the razorbacks.
Actually all the soothsayers are predicting KU or Gonzaga for UK. The reason things have changed is because now instead of two Midwest teams competing for Cleveland in Wisconsin and KU, you have a Midwest in KU and an East in UVA. Now you are technically right...by the rule of the mileage, UVA should go to Cleveland, but it is 50 miles difference...and UVA fans are going to be pissed enough if they do not get a 1 (same with Duke fans if it is them), so if the committee puts them in UK's bracket on top of that viewed screw job (in UVA or Duke fans' minds) I believe all hell would break loose.

The committee knows this...they are not as stupid as we all think. They know they are cute with their brackets and setting things up for TV purposes, but they know how to use common sense on where to put teams when they have been given such a clear out to do so. Trust me, they will stack our bracket with the toughest of all other seeds to make up for no Wisconsin or UVA or Duke. Plus, the committee WANTS those teams to make the Final Four to face UK there for top ratings.

I digress, but if UVA or Duke is Uk's 2 tomorrow this site will go ballistic after every "expert" has said that won't happen now due to rationale I outlined above.
 

C1180

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Notre Dame to me is a scary team. They rain threes and IMO that is what will beat UK if they are beaten. They however would struggle with UKs bigs inside. I think that UK however would match up with them better than UNC.
 

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Originally posted by bevcat:

ND looked good offensively, but defensively I wasn't as impressed.
Since the beginning of the year it is night and day. Remember what you normally watch!!
 

kyjeff1

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my God, some of you are just miserable people. I mean UKwildcats#8 painted himself a nice doom and gloom bracket and got mad at the committee because they somehow put it in his mind. Come on people, stop freaking out. I swear, the committee could put all mid majors in our bracket and some of our fans would still cry foul.
 

Seth C

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All you have to do to determine our bracket is listen to the general consensus of who "could give Kentucky a tough game". Those are the teams that will be in our bracket.
 

tmuck

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Lunardi has them as our 3 and KU as the 2 in his latest bracketology.
 

mjj_2K

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Originally posted by tmuck:
Lunardi has them as our 3 and KU as the 2 in his latest bracketology.
And I suspect that he's right, though I can see that being flipped. If you rank the teams 1-9, it makes perfect sense. Notre Dame and Kansas are 8-9, so with an S Curve, or just geography, it makes sense to have those 2 in UK's region.

And I wouldn't complain one bit. Notre Dame looks really good right now, but there's no way you can tell me that they're a more dangerous team than other possible UK 2/3 seeds that have been discussed.
 

UKWildcats#8

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Originally posted by kyjeff1:

my God, some of you are just miserable people. I mean UKwildcats#8 painted himself a nice doom and gloom bracket and got mad at the committee because they somehow put it in his mind. Come on people, stop freaking out. I swear, the committee could put all mid majors in our bracket and some of our fans would still cry foul.
No, because most of the mid-majors will be in Dukes. I'll be here tomorrow to eat crow if I'm wrong. I stand by my predictions...I've seen bracketologists predict similar brackets for UK all this season.

And it is not so much trying to give a bracket of death so much as the stupid geography thing.
 

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It all depends on where they put Duke and Virginia, but we WILL get either Notre Dame, UNC or Louisville in our bracket, simply because they have to spread out the top ACC teams. We may get two of them if one is a three and the other a four, because they wouldn't meet until the Elite Eight so it's legal. It's a real crapshoot after UK. Two through ten could be seeded any which way. We don't know. Theoretically we'll only have to face one other top eight team to get to Indy. If I had to guess, I'd say 1. UK, 2. Kansas, 3. Notre Dame, 4. UNC, 5. Wichita
 

Conn501

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ND won because neither duke or unc have big guys who can guard the perimeter. Im pretty certain that is not only not a problem for uk, but a huge strength. We would destroy them in the low post. I dont see ND as a problem at all if uk shows up ready to play. They are actually a favorable matchup.
 

UKWildcats#8

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Originally posted by redbudman:

Yes we will paly them in Sweet 16 our 3rd game!
I would be HIGHLY shocked if ND is anything other than a 3 seed. One can make the argument they are the top 3 seed, although I have to think that honor goes to ISU with their overall resume of quality wins.

Oh trust me, the committee is crooked and would it completely surprise any of us at all if somehow, someway they justify 2. Wisconsin 3. Iowa State 4. Notre Dame 5. Witchita State.

As UK's top opposition in its bracket. The above would pretty much be the worst case scenario for tonight's selections...I don't see it, but it could happen. The committee can easily ignore Duke and UVA's recent losses if they want and keep them as 1's. The crappy thing about all this is humans decide it, and they are subjective and have agendas.
 

bigbluetrue

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Notre Dame will definitely be in our region. They spread the floor and shoot the 3 very well. They definitely will be a tough match up if we end up playing them.
 

UKWildcats#8

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Originally posted by Bigbluetrue:
Notre Dame will definitely be in our region. They spread the floor and shoot the 3 very well. They definitely will be a tough match up if we end up playing them.
You take away the 3's and they are not that impressive though. I think trying to beat UK in a track meet is cute and I find it hilarious teams try it. I hope Arkansas keeps it somewhat closer today so teams think it can work.
 

Kmoney121

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Originally posted by Smashcat:
South Bend to Cleveland is a short trip.
I would assume so. If ND is not in the Midwest then there's a good chance Iowa St is if KU is not our 2 seed. I would rather
have ND then Iowa St.
 

Anon1636470744

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I hope not. I just posted in another thread that is the kind of team I am most concerned with.
ND has some impressive wins this year.
 

UKWildcats#8

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Originally posted by Big Foot 275:
I hope not. I just posted in another thread that is the kind of team I am most concerned with.
ND has some impressive wins this year.
Why? They are about as good on D as Auburn, a little better, with no front court to speak of. They are a really water downed version of Duke, minus Okafor.

They can beat Duke because Duke relies on shooting a ton of 3's. Duke does not know what to do when teams over guard them and they have to constantly go inside.
 

hotelblue

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the mammoth midwest. you know it's coming...

1 kentucky
2 wisconsin
3 notre dame
4 wichita state
5 west virginia
6 oklahoma
7 cincinatti
8 virginia commonwealth
9 connecticut
10 murray state
11 lsu
 

Anon1636470744

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Originally posted by Big Foot 275:
I hope not. I just posted in another thread that is the kind of team I am most concerned with.
ND has some impressive wins this year.
Why? They are about as good on D as Auburn, a little better, with no front court to speak of. They are a really water downed version of Duke, minus Okafor.

They can beat Duke because Duke relies on shooting a ton of 3's. Duke does not know what to do when teams over guard them and they have to constantly go inside.


They beat Duke twice, Carolina twice and Louisville at Yum.
The three point shot is a great equalizer against any team even great ones.
I know our three point defense is really good but I don't think the Cats have faced a team that shoots it that well from 3.
 

UKWildcats#8

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Originally posted by Big Foot 275:


Originally posted by Big Foot 275:
I hope not. I just posted in another thread that is the kind of team I am most concerned with.
ND has some impressive wins this year.
Why? They are about as good on D as Auburn, a little better, with no front court to speak of. They are a really water downed version of Duke, minus Okafor.

They can beat Duke because Duke relies on shooting a ton of 3's. Duke does not know what to do when teams over guard them and they have to constantly go inside.


They beat Duke twice, Carolina twice and Louisville at Yum.
The three point shot is a great equalizer against any team even great ones.
I know our three point defense is really good but I don't think the Cats have faced a team that shoots it that well from 3.
Yeah, but all those teams you listed are flawed. The first two play no defense...so colore me unimpressed ND got good looks against either, and what happened when Duke trucked them by 30 in Durham? I'll also add the obvious that UL has no offense, yet hung with ND for most of the game and led a good chunk of it.

UK is a complete team, and its not going to let ND get wide open 3's like UNC and Duke do. ND will probably get some easy layups due to that...but you can't beat UK getting 2's. Now if ND wants to chuck up contested 3's all game and they luck out and hit a lot of them...so be it, but they are not going to get good, open looks.

Plus, how is ND going to hold UK below 85-90 points? They play no D.
 

C1180

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UK will would give Notre Dame fits inside and and IMO match up better guarding the 3 point shot than UNC. They would IMO need to be insane from the 3 point line to beat UK.