Mike Rhoades says Penn State NIL support is at bottom of Big Ten
I thought we had wagon loads of new NIL money?
LOL
I thought we had wagon loads of new NIL money?
LOL
Does Pat know?
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So what was PSU’s NIL budget for basketball in 2020 when PSU was somewhere around second place in the Big 10 as late as February and would’ve made the Tournament if it hadn’t been canceled, or in 2023 when PSU made the Big 10 Championship game and the NCAA Tournament and beat Texas A & M in the Tournament?
Regardless of PSU’s basketball NIL budget, Rhoades has done a lousy job. He actually had a team in the 24-25 season that was good enough to make the Tournament and absolutely did a terrible job with that team. Maybe if the program would show even the faintest pulse under Rhoades’ leadership, more people would be willing to pump money into that program.
Zero of course. It was a different landscape in 2020.
I expect Rhoades has reached the point where he knows, and doesn't care, that his marriage with Pat Kraft is pretty much over.
So long as he is here, this job here will pay him much more than what he could earn anywhere else - and another boatload of buyout $ even if he gets terminated - and I doubt he cares about the $ much anyway. And he has to be frustrated with Kraft and the situation wrt Basketball here.
Meanwhile: What are the chances that Kraft will ever hire a coach who will win a championship under his watch? Slim to none?
He inherited Cael, and aside from wrestling, the only other championship PSU won under his tenure was won by another coach he inherited - and tried to fire.
Hell, the next time a Kraft hire has even a winning conference record will be the first time - I expect that will be Campbell this year (who was about the only coach in the country who was NOT on Kraft's rolodex when he fired HCJF).
So long as he is here, this job here will pay him much more than what he could earn anywhere else - and another boatload of buyout $ even if he gets terminated - and I doubt he cares about the $ much anyway. And he has to be frustrated with Kraft and the situation wrt Basketball here.
Meanwhile: What are the chances that Kraft will ever hire a coach who will win a championship under his watch? Slim to none?
He inherited Cael, and aside from wrestling, the only other championship PSU won under his tenure was won by another coach he inherited - and tried to fire.
Hell, the next time a Kraft hire has even a winning conference record will be the first time - I expect that will be Campbell this year (who was about the only coach in the country who was NOT on Kraft's rolodex when he fired HCJF).
Penn State isn't a basketball school. Get over it.
I was getting ready to say, Penn State plays Basketball?? lol
PSU is likely somewhere 16-25 in the nation. I see some here celebrating #20. If that coincides with your expectations, then great. Perhaps blue chips will eschew cash compensation in return for luxury box accommodations for their families?
I don't like what has happened to "college football." But, the fantasy that PSU will take 3 stars (that are rising talents) and coach em up is silly. Especially when the very teams you need to beat take 4 and 5 stars and coach em up.
When it comes to the realities of this time and place in the NIL era, Pat Kraft failed to "read the room."
I don't like what has happened to "college football." But, the fantasy that PSU will take 3 stars (that are rising talents) and coach em up is silly. Especially when the very teams you need to beat take 4 and 5 stars and coach em up.
When it comes to the realities of this time and place in the NIL era, Pat Kraft failed to "read the room."
Everybody knew that basketball was near the bottom for basketball NIL money. This isn't a surprise.
It could be much better than it is but where does the money come from? Purdue prioritizes basketball and their football team suffers. I think PSU allocates less to basketball because they prioritize football.
Coaching matters. Rhoades doesn't seem to be the guy. Recruiting seems to have suffered under him. When you start bringing in a lot of international players is a sign to me that local/us based players don't want to play for you. Looking at past coaches Chambers and the guy who left for ND, they seemed to be able to recruit better players and do more with them. NIL has certainly changed the landscape but for a coach to start using that as an excuse is a sign that he needs to be replaced to me. Then I again I don't know enough about basketball and just a lazy person observation.
No He didn't.
Although I am sure that if he had, there would be a lot of people who might share your sentiment.
It’s apparently going to PSU leadership in the form of bonuses and private jet use.
I'm not sure why you say that. The $3 million wrestling gets could be transferred to the basketball program. That would buy a couple of good players.
I'm not proposing that. I'm just saying that there's a certain amount of money being split among programs. If one gets more the others get less. It would be nice if we could just increase the entire pot but that's easier said than done.
When I talked to a member of the staff last month, the numbers they gave me were either last or next to last in NIL in the conference. 3-4 million is less than half of what most teams spend and around 1/4 of what Michigan spends.
I still coach HS basketball in MD and one of my friends was coaching for Team Melo all summer on EYBL with a top 20 2028 player. The amount of money being thrown at players is way worse in basketball than football. Average joes are getting half a million and a car lease. PSU is trying to go with two less players just so they have a bit more to pay the others. It’s like Sun Belt money trying to compete with the big boys.
I still coach HS basketball in MD and one of my friends was coaching for Team Melo all summer on EYBL with a top 20 2028 player. The amount of money being thrown at players is way worse in basketball than football. Average joes are getting half a million and a car lease. PSU is trying to go with two less players just so they have a bit more to pay the others. It’s like Sun Belt money trying to compete with the big boys.
If only the basketball program had a sugar daddy like the hockey program does or did.
In all seriousness, when compared to almost every SEC school and probably most Big 10 schools, PSU, like OSU, has a bloated athletic program that probably needs to be downsized so that money can be pumped into the sports that really matter, and it hurts me to say that because I have taken pride that PSU historically has done well in a lot of the non-revenue sports. However, really tough decisions need to be made.
Agree but they will never drop a women’s sport. If you go by who loses the most $, I’m pretty sure it’s women’s basketball. (Barry can correct me if I’m wrong) thank goodness the swimming cathedral never got built or they’d be in worse shape.