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Does Pope deserve another year?
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He at the very least deserves the rest of this year to see if he can turn things around. But that’s gonna take some serious changes made to the way he’s doing things. Then I think an evaluation can be made. But we’ve regressed from what gave us some success a couple games ago. I’m not sure if Pope has the conviction to do what’s necessary. Times getting short. We can’t afford any more embarrassing losses.
We have football teams needing 22 players that have turned it around faster. With the most money in college basketball you would think you can find four kids to make you competitive.
Turn out the lights. It's over. The feeling (most) of us had was correct, Pope wasn't the hire but UK media did their propaganda to keep us from marching on the ADs office back in 2023.
I lean toward giving him a 3rd year to get things headed the right direction. He obviously loves UK, played on a championship team and knows basketball. There's obviously some kind of disconnect inside of this team. They don't seem happy to be playing and don't seem to play for each other. The lack of effort is embarrassing! Nobody can figure it out including Mark Pope. Can he turn it around? Only time will tell.
Mitch needs to be fired.
As it stands right now? No.
Pope knows this and I think that's part of why he's been short with reporters this year.
This team has underperformed about as bad as Cal's teams and should've shown some signs of life today, but didn't. Having no answers coming out of a break doesn't look good.
Pope knows this and I think that's part of why he's been short with reporters this year.
This team has underperformed about as bad as Cal's teams and should've shown some signs of life today, but didn't. Having no answers coming out of a break doesn't look good.
Because he had one one year that exceeded expectations and now one below expectations. Third year tells the tale.
Do you need to have any of that to be considered up and coming?
I mean to me up and coming just means that you've demonstrated the ability to do something with your coaching. Maybe it's about doing the most with little so you still haven't won anything but you've shown with a more talented roster that you could get at UK, maybe you'll be better.
I think that's what they saw in Pope.
Pope could only do so much at BYU.
They could easily go 1-5 counting the SECT.
Maybe because he isn’t going to give up after a sweet 16 and 14 games? Jeez.
I think the list is smaller due to you can now win a title just about anywhere thanks to NIL. But it's not like it's a bad list.
I think Pearl would love to do it.
I think coaches like Otz at Iowa St might like a shot at a running a big time program.
I think there's a world you can convince a guy like Golden (if he continues to do well) to come here.
The problem lies in we want "program guys" and well, they just don't exist anymore or aren't very good.
Pelphrey sucks
Pope is struggling
Woods was awful
Donovan and Tubby were really the two only successful Pitino guys.
The coach he replaced did better- the coach that replaced him is doing better. Nothing in his past said up and coming.
NIL and transfer portal. You can build a contender easily at UK.
Nah, Mitch screwed us by not firing Cal's *** immeadiately in February when Cal met with Arky.
We could've then gone after May and been the Number 2 team in the country right now. Muck Fitch!
Of course he realizes it. I was answering the question on why he would do this to his family and want this pressure. Because he loves UK and isn’t going to quit. He knew what came with this job.
I’m in the same boat. What about a 6-12 SEC record? Surely that does it, right? I get the Cal haters (I wanted him gone, badly, but prefer to not think of myself as a hater) point to 2020-21 but that year just shouldn’t count. It was so trash. That would be the worst year since…without looking…Eddies last? Pitinos first? Some SERIOUSLY different circumstances for both of those.
It shouldn't be just a yes or no question. If those are the options, yes he does. I would have checked ask me when the season ends if that had been an option
That year absolutely counts. Period. Other teams did well in that year. No excuses.
Started an account today of all days and immediately and come here to stir some sh*t up? Yea, I’m thinking you aren’t a UK fan.
Nate Oats recruiting: come to Alabama, I’ve won the most SEC games the last four years, two SEC tournaments, Two regular season titles, a final four and an E8. Plus gonna get paid and I can’t get people to the league.
Pope recruiting. Come to UK because we have A great fan base and I know what it means to wear UK across your chest.
Pope is cooked bad.
Pope recruiting. Come to UK because we have A great fan base and I know what it means to wear UK across your chest.
Pope is cooked bad.
I think if Mitch does not retire, he gets at least one more year.
If we hire one of Mitch's cronies as AD, he has a 50% chance to stay for next year.
If we get a new AD outside of Mitch's grasp, Pope won't be here next year.
Remember Mitch didn't Fire Cal after his 9-16 year and he hated Cal. Imagine what he would allow Pope to do.
The only way I think Mitch fires Pope is if he does not win 1 SEC game.
The only way Pope is gone next year is if Mitch retires, get a new AD outside of Mitch's influence or if he decides to step down.
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I voted no because of bad coaching consistencies. All of the coaching errors from Cal, I thought would be remedied but its nearly the same but with worse players. Not to mention probably going to lose on Stokes and Collins. (not chandler)
If we hire one of Mitch's cronies as AD, he has a 50% chance to stay for next year.
If we get a new AD outside of Mitch's grasp, Pope won't be here next year.
Remember Mitch didn't Fire Cal after his 9-16 year and he hated Cal. Imagine what he would allow Pope to do.
The only way I think Mitch fires Pope is if he does not win 1 SEC game.
The only way Pope is gone next year is if Mitch retires, get a new AD outside of Mitch's influence or if he decides to step down.
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I voted no because of bad coaching consistencies. All of the coaching errors from Cal, I thought would be remedied but its nearly the same but with worse players. Not to mention probably going to lose on Stokes and Collins. (not chandler)
2020-21 absolutely counts. UK wasnt the only program going through a pandemic.
Sure, if you have an agenda it counts. If you any sort of perspective at all, it just was what it was. Cal did a terrible job, no doubt. But that BS shouldn’t count for anything for anyone in the record books. Just a ridiculous season.
Pay attention. It shouldn’t count for anyone. Use all caps next time too, doesn’t change anything. Cal did a crap job. Still doesn’t change the fact that was just a stupid season. Guys being forced to sit. Games canceled. Just dumb. Say Cal did a trash job, he did. But don’t spew this “only coach to win less than 10 games” or “sub .500” crap. It’s disingenuous.
I’m glad you agree that specific context matters. Remember that next time you compare Utah Valley State efficiency numbers to a major conference or disregard injury effects on games.
2021 was on Calipari — just like every other year with increasing lack of hope. Calipari and Pope can both be falling short and we can acknowledge where both did good and did bad. End of Cal sucked. Last year, Pope did better than expected given context. This year, he’s eroded all the equity he built and now we have little hope. All of that is true.
No, it’s not. The pandemic/rules weren’t only contained to Lexington. Did you not watch Boston kill us all year?
Well, the sport disagrees with you and I'm sure Baylor would heavily disagree with you.
Lol. Had to reply twice to it? It's not disingenuous. The record stands. This is UofL where we ignore what record books say.
So you're fine with saying Cal did a trash job but not the numbers? Wild. Must've been the kid that hid the report card from mom and dad huh?
Bingo.
It's not like everyone had different rules.
We just sucked. The record is what it is. 9-16. I'm just mature enough to not hide it out of sight like a teen hiding their naughty mags.
By all accounts, the Tennessee win got Joker one more year. It was good to break the streak but IIRC it cost us getting Mike Leach, which sucked.
Can't coach defense
Can't properly construct a roster
Can't motivate
Can't recruit
Gotta go after this season
Can't properly construct a roster
Can't motivate
Can't recruit
Gotta go after this season
