They only discuss Obama's numbers since Trump came into office. Obama's numbers while he was in office is something they tend to skip over.
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They only discuss Obama's numbers since Trump came into office. Obama's numbers while he was in office is something they tend to skip over.
Trump has yet to hit 3% annual GDP as well. His max so far is 2.9%, a number matched under Obama in 2015.
Who was worse than Obama during his term in office? (since World War II?)
Ans: No one.
atl's right 'ya know?
Where did I say anything about this being Obama's economy? You claimed that Obama was terrible because he never hit 3% annual GDP. So far Trump has failed to get there too.
What does that have to do with averaging numbers?Who was worse than Obama during his term in office? (since World War II?)
Ans: No one.
atl's right 'ya know?
I'm just mocking the entire suggestion by the Left (absent a better plan) that this current economy is no better than Obama's was. I suppose it's all you can really argue since none of you can argue a better plan to top Trump's performance so far...but it is funny.
BTW Mule, you're a smart guy...what would you vote for as a plan to prevent the coming recession and improve on our current GDP projected (since we're "predicting") or at least on course to finish the year well above 3%?
What's the plan from the Left that's got you excited my Man?
I'd support a plan that sets us up to compete in the future. Technological advances are going to make more and more career fields obsolete. Start planning on how we handle how those changes impact the current and future work forces, and figure out a way to allow people to make the transition as smoothly as possible. I heard an interview with Yang yesterday, and he talks about that issue. That doesn't mean that he has a good plan for it. Maybe he does, but he certainly didn't address it in the interview. Besides, his basic living wage idea seems like a dud to me. He uses Alaska as the model, but translating that from a fairly unpopulated state to the entire country strikes me as a bridge too far.
Yang certainly is an "out-of-the-box" thinker...I'll hand you that. His trouble is for that party he isn't radical enough! I like Bernie...I think he's the perfect reflection of exactly where the Democrat party stands today.
Old, crazy, chaotic, misguided, economically illiterate, and SOCIALIST!
I think that party should give Bernie the chance they robbed him of in '16 trying to protect Hillary. Let's hear Bernie vs Trump?
Classic.
Capitalist vs Socialist
Ali vs Frazier!!!! Let's get it on!!!!!!!!!
Actually what I pointed out is Obama is the first U.S. President since the end of World War II never to have 3% GDP during any year he was in Office. No one's ever performed that poorly. If you want to say neither has Trump, he hasn't been in office in 8 years.
So far Obama's best (2015) appears to be Trump's lowest...or at least he's certainly on track this year to finish well above 3%. Another telling sign for Trump was this past year, where US energy production spiked to #1 in the world, and we became a net energy exporter rather than the opposite. Matter of fact at no time in the past 45 years has the U.S. been "energy independent" as we are today, and Obama could only dream of that while he was in Office trying to kill off the entire coal industry!
When I asked if Trump had a "magic wand" I wasn't actually serious
Well I sure was...abracadabra... 'ya feel me?
If you had the same portfolio under Obama that you have under Trump, you have an idiot for a financial advisor. You should have been rebalancing quarterly.
My guess is, you have no portfolio, you just made it up.
I don't think Trump has hit 2.9%. 2018 was revised down to 2.5% 2017 was 2.2%?
I guess it depends on YOY, Real GDP, etc
Remember, Zero was the absolute worst President since the Second World War! He had the absolute rock bottom lowest GDP of any modern U.S. President. He's the first modern US President never to achieve at least 3% GDP in any year he was in office! No one's ever been that bad. He's dead last and at the bottom of the list as the worst.
Fact.
Here are the average growth rates for each president:
- Johnson (1964-68), 5.3 percent
- Kennedy (1961-63), 4.3 percent
- Clinton (1993-2000), 3.9 percent
- Reagan (1981-88), 3.5 percent
- Carter (1977-80), 3.3 percent
- Eisenhower (1953-60), 3 percent
- Nixon (1969-74), 2.8 percent
- Ford (1975-76), 2.6 percent
- G.H.W. Bush (1989-92), 2.3 percent
- G.W. Bush (2001-08), 2.1 percent
- Truman (1946-52), 1.7 percent
- Obama (2009-16), 1.6 percent (dead last)
Again half truths and misstatements. Trump hasn’t had a 3% year either and he inherited a good economy. Nice that you count the republican Great Recession against Obama. Nice to see evangelicals bend the truth to fit a narrative.
Name calling from you is typical and that's because it's all you on the Left have because neither YOU nor any of your other Socialist comrades are capable of explaining how to increase individual earnings on dividend generating shares nor do any of you even like the idea of individual investors getting rich or independent wealth being created privately through personal investments in corporations. Matter of fact the very idea absolutely, positively, unequivocally, unalterably, unarguably, disgusts you! (relatively speaking) You know I'm right too [winking]
"No where man don't worry, take your time don't hurry. Leave it all, 'till somebody else lends you a hand....ah...ah...la...la...la...la....la....."
I wasn’t calling you a crazy puke, just your post
Look at the lengths the Left resorts to in efforts to try and discredit Trump's economy. Talking about inverted yields, % averages over the first two years in office compared to others, comparing the average unemployment rates of minorities for Obama over 8 years, vs Trump only 3 years into his Presidency...predicting a "recession" when there are no measurements of any negative growth...whining about deficits after we ran up the largest amount of red ink in our history under Obama, comparing interest rates from the Fed, and just about every other bizarre, off-the-wall, slanted, twisted, distorted, cropped, shaped, sloped, converted, inverted, perverted, diverted statistic they can drum up...all in a losing effort to say this current record economy we're enjoying under Trump is nothing but a giant sham.
Know what's the real sham?
Their inability to offer a better idea, or offer voters a superior economic plan, or a better future for the country with a detailed, understandable, well documented, clearly thought out alternative that's demonstrably more promising for the nation. They are out of ideas.
So as a result, if they can't convince voters Trump's a racist, or a misogynist, or a White Supremacist, or a Nazi, or a xenophobic white nationalist....maybe they can convince you your 401 K is only smoke and mirrors, your investment portfolio is built on junk bonds, your new job is social welfare, your increased earnings are a ponzi scheme, your tax cuts were crumbs, your company's balance sheets are forged, our economic growth approaching 4% is a mirage, that we're actually heading for a recession, & if we don't hurry up and put a Socialist in charge of running things we might end up in another Great Depression!
Are 'ya scared yet? Are 'ya mad as Hell? You should be...Leftists are on the war path and Trump must DIE!!!!!!!
they think they've already killed him....
I got 'em right where I want 'em atl!
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I thought this was Obama's economy? Oh...you just said Trump hasn't had 3% GDP yet....
Hey @Original Mountaineer1 see if you can find the answer to this:
Under Obama's great "recovery" when was the U.S. energy independent as it is today? You do realize we're the #1 energy producer in the World now, as well as the #1 energy exporter? We are now also energy independent.[thumb2]
I think you knew that, but in case you don't or you're sure all that also happened first under Obama and his fantastic "recovery", can you link me to the stats showing exactly when it happened under him?
*a non answer to avoid embarrassment is permitted [winking]
Your guess is wrong......My financial advisor is far more competent than you could ever think about being. What part of basically don't you understand.....plus you are clueless about the structure of my portfolio.
Actially, Trump and Obama have the same best (2018 & 2015, respectively). Neither is at or above 3%. But the guy who was arguing against reliable predictors of a recession is using two data points to predict a trend.Actually what I pointed out is Obama is the first U.S. President since the end of World War II never to have 3% GDP during any year he was in Office. No one's ever performed that poorly. If you want to say neither has Trump, he hasn't been in office in 8 years.
So far Obama's best (2015) appears to be Trump's lowest...or at least he's certainly on track this year to finish well above 3%. Another telling sign for Trump was this past year, where US energy production spiked to #1 in the world, and we became a net energy exporter rather than the opposite. Matter of fact at no time in the past 45 years has the U.S. been "energy independent" as we are today, and Obama could only dream of that while he was in Office trying to kill off the entire coal industry!
When I asked if Trump had a "magic wand" I wasn't actually serious
Well I sure was...abracadabra... 'ya feel me?
I'll make a deal with you Mule my man. Get back with me after Trump finishes his 8 years then let's sit down and compare numbers between the two year-by-year?
Deal?
Hey Mule do you remember the "predictions" by Leftists of the economy collapsing and exploding deficits due to less revenue to the treasury from the tax cuts? I mean that is what Democrats who all voted against them "predicted" did they not?
So how'd that little bit of Leftist forecasting turn out?
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I wont even get into you moron. You wouldnt know reality if it crawled up you dickcushion.