Don’t let a 17-year old kid steal your joy

[ukalum1988]

Well, it’s been a little over 24 hours since the news broke that a certain highly-rated QB from Jacksonville FL who had been committed to UK for almost a year decided to commit to another program.

I was pretty butt hurt about this last night and early this morning, I gotta admit. A lot of UK fans, certainly myself included, thought this kid was fairly solid to UK, and that only a major dumpster-fire season in the fall would sway him to consider other options. Personally, I think the kid should have considered a formal “re-opening my recruitment” kind of announcement, perhaps waited a week or two, and then formally commit to the other school. I guess he’s the kind that just likes to rip the Band-Aid off.

It’s easier said than done, but it’s time to turn the page. On my way from work this afternoon, the phrase that John Calipari has used previously popped into my head, and he’s right – I’m not going to let some 17-year old kid’s decision steal my joy. Again, easier said than done, but this thread will (hopefully) be my last post about a young man whose concept of “marriage” to Stoops and the UK FB program turned out to be as shallow and superficial as a Kardashian marriage.

That is all . . . . :victory:

 

[billoliver40]

Defending national champ or a school that hasn't sniffed a bowl bid in years......not a hard decision.
Strange thing is, I would trade this four star kid for a couple solid linemen on defense twice any day.

 

[why_not_kentucky]

What is joy when it comes to Kentucky football.

 

[jauk11]

What is joy when it comes to Kentucky football.

A joy to me is contemplating a starting OL that will probably average a 5.940 in 17 if our IN STATE five star signs on, and which should be very much improved in 16 as well as well as 17 whether he signs or not, we will still replace our very good OC with a 5.8 and our starting OTs with a 5.9 and a 6.1. With a LOT of lettermen returning with Compare that to the starting OL in 2007 that AVERAGED about a 5.2 with very little depth.

With ONE of the other ten starters the only one missing, and the ability to put a 5.8 or BETTER starter at all the skill positions these two facts should lead to an offense that can flat out just outscore some teams. and I expect our 5.9 QB to be much improved because of improved support-------not to mention improved coaching.

Sorry, I am really looking forward to it, it might even turn out to be a real joy.

By the way, did anyone notice the story on TOS about the 18 QB (think we might be OK until then) that really liked his visit, lots of fish in the sea. Before it is over with Jones might be the one regretting jumping ship, he wasn't that much when our staff found him.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

A joy to me is contemplating a starting OL that will probably average a 5.940 in 17 if our IN STATE five star signs on, and which should be very much improved in 16 as well as well as 17 whether he signs or not, we will still replace our very good OC with a 5.8 and our starting OTs with a 5.9 and a 6.1. With a LOT of lettermen returning with Compare that to the starting OL in 2007 that AVERAGED about a 5.2 with very little depth.

With ONE of the other ten starters the only one missing, and the ability to put a 5.8 or BETTER starter at all the skill positions these two facts should lead to an offense that can flat out just outscore some teams. and I expect our 5.9 QB to be much improved because of improved support-------not to mention improved coaching.

Sorry, I am really looking forward to it, it might even turn out to be a real joy.

By the way, did anyone notice the story on TOS about the 18 QB (think we might be OK until then) that really liked his visit, lots of fish in the sea. Before it is over with Jones might be the one regretting jumping ship, he wasn't that much when our staff found him.

Signed, a stoops apologist and someone overly confident in his abilities. I swear every football related post I've seen from you. Has always had to do with the rivals point system and incoming recruits and how that pretty much in your opinion equates to guaranteed success regardless of who the coach is. But when do the coaches get there heads out of there ***? That's my only question. Why does our team show up unprepared and disorganized every game? Why does our team show no heart during a majority of the games? Why are the coaches managing the games so poorly to the point that it looks as if they're trying to lose? Why can't they manage a clock to save there lives? Say what you will but I don't think recruiting ratings fix these problems. Considering it's the same problems we had from year 1 to year 2 since he's been here.

Will Muschamp had all the talent in the world at Florida. I wonder what his average player point system recruiting rating ranking was when he was the head coach at Florida. And for the life of me can't understand why that high average player point system recruiting rating ranking didn't result in more success. Since. Ya know. Average player point system recruiting rating rankings are everything these days on the football field. Doesn't really matter who's coaching them. FYI. Stoops is 5-14 (2 against, one being a D2 school and other being the worst d1 schooll, not to mention a nail biter against a bad mid major ULL team) in his last 19 games. With zero quality wins. And his best win (by record) during this stretch being against a 6-7 D2 EKU team that we needed a miracle comeback to force overtime in order to beat. Your high level of optimism. Needless to say. Confuses me. I can understand why you could maybe be cautiously optimistic. But you take it to a level to where it seems you're assured never-before-seen-success under stoops is a certainty. Eh. More power to ya I guess!!

 

[NCukcat62]

Signed, a stoops apologist and someone overly confident in his abilities. I swear every football related post I've seen from you. Has always had to do with the rivals point system and incoming recruits and how that pretty much in your opinion equates to guaranteed success regardless of who the coach is. But when do the coaches get there heads out of there ***? That's my only question. Why does our team show up unprepared and disorganized every game? Why does our team show no heart during a majority of the games? Why are the coaches managing the games so poorly to the point that it looks as if they're trying to lose? Why can't they manage a clock to save there lives? Say what you will but I don't think recruiting ratings fix these problems. Considering it's the same problems we had from year 1 to year 2 since he's been here.

Will Muschamp had all the talent in the world at Florida. I wonder what his average player point system recruiting rating ranking was when he was the head coach at Florida. And for the life of me can't understand why that high average player point system recruiting rating ranking didn't result in more success. Since. Ya know. Average player point system recruiting rating rankings are everything these days on the football field. Doesn't really matter who's coaching them. FYI. Stoops is 5-14 (2 against, one being a D2 school and other being the worst d1 schooll, not to mention a nail biter against a bad mid major ULL team) in his last 19 games. With zero quality wins. And his best win (by record) during this stretch being against a 6-7 D2 EKU team that we needed a miracle comeback to force overtime in order to beat. Your high level of optimism. Needless to say. Confuses me. I can understand why you could maybe be cautiously optimistic. But you take it to a level to where it seems you're assured never-before-seen-success under stoops is a certainty. Eh. More power to ya I guess!!

Nothing better than a fan that holds out hope every single year. I was the same last year. Stoops is done if he doesn't go bowling this year. And jauk11 is the biggest sunshine pumper on this board.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

Nothing better than a fan that holds out hope every single year. I was the same last year. Stoops is done if he doesn't go bowling this year. And jauk11 is the biggest sunshine pumper on this board.

Yea last season pretty much was the straw that broke the camels back for me. And yea I agree with the statement on jauk. He reminds me of when I was a kid and I would pick up the preseason pocket schedules for UK football. And I spent the day looking at the games predicting which games we would win and lose. And I would put a W next to every single game because I truly felt as if we had a more than solid chance to beat every team on our schedule every year. Every season I predicted an undefeated season and a national title. And it wasn't just wishful thinking. I truly believed it would happen. Season after season. And that's what his seasonal optimism reminds me of. Dead on to be honest. Well needless to say i got older, more mature as the years went on and reality hit a long time ago.

It's just one of those things you gotta see to believe considering all the failures I've witnessed. I have zero reason to believe stoops has what it takes to be a successful head coach. Yes the recruiting is nice. But from a coaching standpoint. Pfftttt. Has too much room to improve before he can ever become an even halfway competent head coach in this league. The man looks lost on the sidelines. Clueless to be honest. And I know I'm not the only one that sees that. I've seen zero improvement in his coaching ability from year 1 to year 3. Last season, his 3rd season. He looked like a deer in the headlights, first time head coach and not one with a bright future but one way in over his head. And this is year 3 we're talking about and it still looked as if he never coached a game in his life. I have a glimmer of hope now that Dawson and towles are gone. Those are the only reasons I renewed my season tickets. Had those 2 things not happnened I was canceling them. But a glimmer of hope i's as far as I'll go. I don't see any reason for optimism besides that. Especially the insane amount of optimism a lot of these stoops apologists show.

I see stoops maximum ceiling here to be 6 wins. I just can't see him ever winning more than 6 regular season games as the head coach here. I think if he got lucky maybe he gets 7 one year with a favorable schedule and a break here and there if he were here another 6 years. But hopefully he'll be gone way before then if he doesn't reach 7 wins in the next 6 years. Which I honestly see being highly unlikely. Only had we invested the money when brooks was here. For those who think he can someday lead us to 8-4. You're dreaming. Considering the schedule I see 4-8 or 5-7 to be the most likely scenarios this season. Making the next season his last chance, which honestly if we go 4-8 or 5-7 he should be fired, but he gets at least one more year no matter how bad we do because of barnharts stupid contract extension.

 

[mattadam]

Nothing better than a fan that holds out hope every single year. I was the same last year. Stoops is done if he doesn't go bowling this year. And jauk11 is the biggest sunshine pumper on this board.

I'll take your optimism jauk11 !!! Go Cats and not going to let Mr. Jones steal mine! Coach Stoops and the boys are going to make a statement this year!

 

[NCukcat62]

I'll take your optimism jauk11 !!! Go Cats and not going to let Mr. Jones steal mine! Coach Stoops and the boys are going to make a statement this year!

I hope you're right but just don't see it what so ever. This is it

 

[CoolMoeBee]

I wonder if Lane Kiffen gave him full access to his tinder account.

 

[CatPowered]

I am a lot more concerned about the play of Drew Barker than the recruiting of Mac Jones. UK is set at QB for the next 3 years (barring injury). Kentucky can fill this loss with 2018 recruiting.

 

[seccats04]

I am a lot more concerned about the play of Drew Barker than the recruiting of Mac Jones. UK is set at QB for the next 3 years (barring injury). Kentucky can fill this loss with 2018 recruiting.

Wrong. If Barker gets hurt we are sunk. Johnson's best offer out of Juco was Arkansas State and he weighs 178 lbs! He will get snapped in half. Hoak is a decent looking prospect but he's a mid level 3 star QB that will need time to grow. He did not have any major offers either.

 

[Kats23]

You should never be upset about losing a recruit in any sport, but especially football. Losing a verbal commit in football is like not getting a job offer from a place you never applied for.

 

[Dallas-Wild]

I've moved on, hope the kid enjoys his Bama career

 

[gamecockcat]

As with every other kid Bama recruits, it's very possible MJ never sees the field. They are in constant 'over-recruiting' mode and, unless you're a superstar, you don't play much. Plus, they've already gotten a commit from another 4* that I think was/is rated more highly than MJ. Whatever. You can't lose what you never had.

 

[StubbornPenny]

What is joy when it comes to Kentucky football.

Setting up a tent, drinking with your friends, passing out before you're made to watch a team that can't line up on special teams.

 

[Urolex]

Yea last season pretty much was the straw that broke the camels back for me. And yea I agree with the statement on jauk. He reminds me of when I was a kid and I would pick up the preseason pocket schedules for UK football. And I spent the day looking at the games predicting which games we would win and lose. And I would put a W next to every single game because I truly felt as if we had a more than solid chance to beat every team on our schedule every year. Every season I predicted an undefeated season and a national title. And it wasn't just wishful thinking. I truly believed it would happen. Season after season. And that's what his seasonal optimism reminds me of. Dead on to be honest. Well needless to say i got older, more mature as the years went on and reality hit a long time ago.

It's just one of those things you gotta see to believe considering all the failures I've witnessed. I have zero reason to believe stoops has what it takes to be a successful head coach. Yes the recruiting is nice. But from a coaching standpoint. Pfftttt. Has too much room to improve before he can ever become an even halfway competent head coach in this league. The man looks lost on the sidelines. Clueless to be honest. And I know I'm not the only one that sees that. I've seen zero improvement in his coaching ability from year 1 to year 3. Last season, his 3rd season. He looked like a deer in the headlights, first time head coach and not one with a bright future but one way in over his head. And this is year 3 we're talking about and it still looked as if he never coached a game in his life. I have a glimmer of hope now that Dawson and towles are gone. Those are the only reasons I renewed my season tickets. Had those 2 things not happnened I was canceling them. But a glimmer of hope i's as far as I'll go. I don't see any reason for optimism besides that. Especially the insane amount of optimism a lot of these stoops apologists show.

I see stoops maximum ceiling here to be 6 wins. I just can't see him ever winning more than 6 regular season games as the head coach here. I think if he got lucky maybe he gets 7 one year with a favorable schedule and a break here and there if he were here another 6 years. But hopefully he'll be gone way before then if he doesn't reach 7 wins in the next 6 years. Which I honestly see being highly unlikely. Only had we invested the money when brooks was here. For those who think he can someday lead us to 8-4. You're dreaming. Considering the schedule I see 4-8 or 5-7 to be the most likely scenarios this season. Making the next season his last chance, which honestly if we go 4-8 or 5-7 he should be fired, but he gets at least one more year no matter how bad we do because of barnharts stupid contract extension.

U yay u

 

[Urolex]

U yay u

 

[KentuckyStout]

17 year old kid hell, Kentucky football has been stealing my joy for the better part of 35 years.

 

[KentuckyStout]

Hey, did you guys know we are finally starting to upgrade some of our facilities to compete with other SEC schools?

We already surpassed Vanderbilt's stadium for 13th best home field advantage in the SEC!

 

[VFO]

Yea last season pretty much was the straw that broke the camels back for me. And yea I agree with the statement on jauk. He reminds me of when I was a kid and I would pick up the preseason pocket schedules for UK football. And I spent the day looking at the games predicting which games we would win and lose. And I would put a W next to every single game because I truly felt as if we had a more than solid chance to beat every team on our schedule every year. Every season I predicted an undefeated season and a national title. And it wasn't just wishful thinking. I truly believed it would happen. Season after season. And that's what his seasonal optimism reminds me of. Dead on to be honest. Well needless to say i got older, more mature as the years went on and reality hit a long time ago.

It's just one of those things you gotta see to believe considering all the failures I've witnessed. I have zero reason to believe stoops has what it takes to be a successful head coach. Yes the recruiting is nice. But from a coaching standpoint. Pfftttt. Has too much room to improve before he can ever become an even halfway competent head coach in this league. The man looks lost on the sidelines. Clueless to be honest. And I know I'm not the only one that sees that. I've seen zero improvement in his coaching ability from year 1 to year 3. Last season, his 3rd season. He looked like a deer in the headlights, first time head coach and not one with a bright future but one way in over his head. And this is year 3 we're talking about and it still looked as if he never coached a game in his life. I have a glimmer of hope now that Dawson and towles are gone. Those are the only reasons I renewed my season tickets. Had those 2 things not happnened I was canceling them. But a glimmer of hope i's as far as I'll go. I don't see any reason for optimism besides that. Especially the insane amount of optimism a lot of these stoops apologists show.

I see stoops maximum ceiling here to be 6 wins. I just can't see him ever winning more than 6 regular season games as the head coach here. I think if he got lucky maybe he gets 7 one year with a favorable schedule and a break here and there if he were here another 6 years. But hopefully he'll be gone way before then if he doesn't reach 7 wins in the next 6 years. Which I honestly see being highly unlikely. Only had we invested the money when brooks was here. For those who think he can someday lead us to 8-4. You're dreaming. Considering the schedule I see 4-8 or 5-7 to be the most likely scenarios this season. Making the next season his last chance, which honestly if we go 4-8 or 5-7 he should be fired, but he gets at least one more year no matter how bad we do because of barnharts stupid contract extension.

Meh

 

[VFO]

Yea last season pretty much was the straw that broke the camels back for me. And yea I agree with the statement on jauk. He reminds me of when I was a kid and I would pick up the preseason pocket schedules for UK football. And I spent the day looking at the games predicting which games we would win and lose. And I would put a W next to every single game because I truly felt as if we had a more than solid chance to beat every team on our schedule every year. Every season I predicted an undefeated season and a national title. And it wasn't just wishful thinking. I truly believed it would happen. Season after season. And that's what his seasonal optimism reminds me of. Dead on to be honest. Well needless to say i got older, more mature as the years went on and reality hit a long time ago.

It's just one of those things you gotta see to believe considering all the failures I've witnessed. I have zero reason to believe stoops has what it takes to be a successful head coach. Yes the recruiting is nice. But from a coaching standpoint. Pfftttt. Has too much room to improve before he can ever become an even halfway competent head coach in this league. The man looks lost on the sidelines. Clueless to be honest. And I know I'm not the only one that sees that. I've seen zero improvement in his coaching ability from year 1 to year 3. Last season, his 3rd season. He looked like a deer in the headlights, first time head coach and not one with a bright future but one way in over his head. And this is year 3 we're talking about and it still looked as if he never coached a game in his life. I have a glimmer of hope now that Dawson and towles are gone. Those are the only reasons I renewed my season tickets. Had those 2 things not happnened I was canceling them. But a glimmer of hope i's as far as I'll go. I don't see any reason for optimism besides that. Especially the insane amount of optimism a lot of these stoops apologists show.

I see stoops maximum ceiling here to be 6 wins. I just can't see him ever winning more than 6 regular season games as the head coach here. I think if he got lucky maybe he gets 7 one year with a favorable schedule and a break here and there if he were here another 6 years. But hopefully he'll be gone way before then if he doesn't reach 7 wins in the next 6 years. Which I honestly see being highly unlikely. Only had we invested the money when brooks was here. For those who think he can someday lead us to 8-4. You're dreaming. Considering the schedule I see 4-8 or 5-7 to be the most likely scenarios this season. Making the next season his last chance, which honestly if we go 4-8 or 5-7 he should be fired, but he gets at least one more year no matter how bad we do because of barnharts stupid contract extension.

Yawn!

 

[NavyCat88]

Signed, a stoops apologist and someone overly confident in his abilities. I swear every football related post I've seen from you. Has always had to do with the rivals point system and incoming recruits and how that pretty much in your opinion equates to guaranteed success regardless of who the coach is. But when do the coaches get there heads out of there ***? That's my only question. Why does our team show up unprepared and disorganized every game? Why does our team show no heart during a majority of the games? Why are the coaches managing the games so poorly to the point that it looks as if they're trying to lose? Why can't they manage a clock to save there lives? Say what you will but I don't think recruiting ratings fix these problems. Considering it's the same problems we had from year 1 to year 2 since he's been here.

Will Muschamp had all the talent in the world at Florida. I wonder what his average player point system recruiting rating ranking was when he was the head coach at Florida. And for the life of me can't understand why that high average player point system recruiting rating ranking didn't result in more success. Since. Ya know. Average player point system recruiting rating rankings are everything these days on the football field. Doesn't really matter who's coaching them. FYI. Stoops is 5-14 (2 against, one being a D2 school and other being the worst d1 schooll, not to mention a nail biter against a bad mid major ULL team) in his last 19 games. With zero quality wins. And his best win (by record) during this stretch being against a 6-7 D2 EKU team that we needed a miracle comeback to force overtime in order to beat. Your high level of optimism. Needless to say. Confuses me. I can understand why you could maybe be cautiously optimistic. But you take it to a level to where it seems you're assured never-before-seen-success under stoops is a certainty. Eh. More power to ya I guess!!

EKU is Division I--FCS. Same as NDSU, Montana, No Iowa, Villanova, Jacksonville St, JMU, and The Citadel. Fair talent....only 63 scholarships....24 team playoff at the end of the season. If we're serious about FB, we have no business losing to FCS teams, but they're not D2 and they beat a fair number of FBS teams every year.

 

[oboroCATfan]

EKU is Division I--FCS. Same as NDSU, Montana, No Iowa, Villanova, Jacksonville St, JMU, and The Citadel. Fair talent....only 63 scholarships....24 team playoff at the end of the season. If we're serious about FB, we have no business losing to FCS teams, but they're not D2 and they beat a fair number of FBS teams every year.

I am glad you cleared that up because when we nearly lost to them in OT I assumed they were terrible but now I see they are FCS so it makes it easier to handle.

 

[NavyCat88]

I am glad you cleared that up because when we nearly lost to them in OT I assumed they were terrible but now I see they are FCS so it makes it easier to handle.

I share your sentiment and sarcasm. Still no excuse for UK having a close call w/EKU who was not even a playoff caliber FCS team. USCJr lost to Citadel last year, but at least they were conference co-champs and a playoff team. Bottom line, if you don't prepare for them, they can beat you (KSU to NDSU, SMU and VT to JMU, UF to GSU, Mich to App St, etc), and if they do sneak up on you--it is a major embarrassment. We were lucky--sadly, I think there were about a dozen FCS teams that would have beaten us last year. I'm hoping those days are behind us. GBB!

 

[3kidsandme]

The kid was never committed to UK in my eyes. He used us as a placeholder and I will never root for him. It would be overly hilarious if Barker puts up 3500 yards leading UK to there best season in my lifetime.

 

[jauk11]

Wrong. If Barker gets hurt we are sunk. Johnson's best offer out of Juco was Arkansas State and he weighs 178 lbs! He will get snapped in half. Hoak is a decent looking prospect but he's a mid level 3 star QB that will need time to grow. He did not have any major offers either.

Did Jones have any major offers before UK offered him? Johnson is 6' 3" and weighs 178# (just looked up his commit status and it says 187#, what does he weigh now?) while Jones is 6' 3" and weighs 181#------Hartline was 6' 6" and had a hell of a time gaining five pounds. Johnson is a MUCH better runner and better at evading tacklers than Jones is, from what I understand. He gives UK a change of pace if needed.

By the way, I thought Hoak was very impressive in the spring game, 5 of 6.

 

[SanAntonioCat_rivals376502]

Yea last season pretty much was the straw that broke the camels back for me. And yea I agree with the statement on jauk. He reminds me of when I was a kid and I would pick up the preseason pocket schedules for UK football. And I spent the day looking at the games predicting which games we would win and lose. And I would put a W next to every single game because I truly felt as if we had a more than solid chance to beat every team on our schedule every year. Every season I predicted an undefeated season and a national title. And it wasn't just wishful thinking. I truly believed it would happen. Season after season. And that's what his seasonal optimism reminds me of. Dead on to be honest. Well needless to say i got older, more mature as the years went on and reality hit a long time ago.

It's just one of those things you gotta see to believe considering all the failures I've witnessed. I have zero reason to believe stoops has what it takes to be a successful head coach. Yes the recruiting is nice. But from a coaching standpoint. Pfftttt. Has too much room to improve before he can ever become an even halfway competent head coach in this league. The man looks lost on the sidelines. Clueless to be honest. And I know I'm not the only one that sees that. I've seen zero improvement in his coaching ability from year 1 to year 3. Last season, his 3rd season. He looked like a deer in the headlights, first time head coach and not one with a bright future but one way in over his head. And this is year 3 we're talking about and it still looked as if he never coached a game in his life. I have a glimmer of hope now that Dawson and towles are gone. Those are the only reasons I renewed my season tickets. Had those 2 things not happnened I was canceling them. But a glimmer of hope i's as far as I'll go. I don't see any reason for optimism besides that. Especially the insane amount of optimism a lot of these stoops apologists show.

I see stoops maximum ceiling here to be 6 wins. I just can't see him ever winning more than 6 regular season games as the head coach here. I think if he got lucky maybe he gets 7 one year with a favorable schedule and a break here and there if he were here another 6 years. But hopefully he'll be gone way before then if he doesn't reach 7 wins in the next 6 years. Which I honestly see being highly unlikely. Only had we invested the money when brooks was here. For those who think he can someday lead us to 8-4. You're dreaming. Considering the schedule I see 4-8 or 5-7 to be the most likely scenarios this season. Making the next season his last chance, which honestly if we go 4-8 or 5-7 he should be fired, but he gets at least one more year no matter how bad we do because of barnharts stupid contract extension.

I understand Bitter Football Fan pills are available at your Wal-Mart pharmacy. They aren't guaranteed, but have been known to numb fans into missing football season altogether.

 

[jauk11]

Signed, a stoops apologist and someone overly confident in his abilities. I swear every football related post I've seen from you. Has always had to do with the rivals point system and incoming recruits and how that pretty much in your opinion equates to guaranteed success regardless of who the coach is. But when do the coaches get there heads out of there ***? That's my only question. Why does our team show up unprepared and disorganized every game? Why does our team show no heart during a majority of the games? Why are the coaches managing the games so poorly to the point that it looks as if they're trying to lose? Why can't they manage a clock to save there lives? Say what you will but I don't think recruiting ratings fix these problems. Considering it's the same problems we had from year 1 to year 2 since he's been here.

Will Muschamp had all the talent in the world at Florida. I wonder what his average player point system recruiting rating ranking was when he was the head coach at Florida. And for the life of me can't understand why that high average player point system recruiting rating ranking didn't result in more success. Since. Ya know. Average player point system recruiting rating rankings are everything these days on the football field. Doesn't really matter who's coaching them. FYI. Stoops is 5-14 (2 against, one being a D2 school and other being the worst d1 schooll, not to mention a nail biter against a bad mid major ULL team) in his last 19 games. With zero quality wins. And his best win (by record) during this stretch being against a 6-7 D2 EKU team that we needed a miracle comeback to force overtime in order to beat. Your high level of optimism. Needless to say. Confuses me. I can understand why you could maybe be cautiously optimistic. But you take it to a level to where it seems you're assured never-before-seen-success under stoops is a certainty. Eh. More power to ya I guess!!

I prefer to be an optimist, we live longer. In fact, I'm pretty sure I have already lived longer than you ever will, I think you have to get someones permission to get life insurance on someone, with your attitude may I have your permission to buy some on you? With me as the beneficiary, of course.

Look, I posted some very impressive FACTS to support my theory that UK football will get better, and while Stoops staff has made some big mistakes he has replaced a lot of those coaches. Is Stoops the one wholly responsible for all the goofs, and it is a fairly new staff with him learning about being a head coach as he goes. I think he has taken GIANT steps to correct the major problems we have had.

So, you don't think replacing an OL that was on our best offensive team this century that averaged a 5.2 with one that is rated about a 5.8 (this year, with a 5.4 best player on that OL, a Remington Candidate pulling down the average) and that wlll average a 5.94 next year if we get Wills isn't pretty amazing? And that it really won't make that much difference because Dawson will make a stupid call------Oh, I forgot, he isn't here any more either------did you forget that too?

Does it mean nothing to you that the rest of the 07 team had ONE four star on offense, with ZERO 5.7s, with ONE 5.6 and two 5.5s (with a 4.9 starting) could be replaced with EVERY player being a 5.8 or higher (IF that was the only thing important, it isn't, we do have some great underrated players that will start), isn't that simply an amazing upgrade in talent? And yeah, lots of individual misses in ratings, but whole teams being rated that much higher does matter.

I may be an optimist, I like it, but you are ridiculous in the other direction in all your posts, and if Stoops does fail he will leave UK in MUCH better shape because he has shown that UK can recruit at a pretty high level (ONLY with the MUCH better support, Brooks AND Joker never had a chance) and UK will be able to get a very good replacement with the talent they will have on board.

Most of our coaching mistakes will be upgraded, several new coaches where needed and the coaches are farther along in their learning curve also.

Muschamp is a hotheaded idiot, I would never play for him-----and his players didn't. I'm not going through that long analysis again but in Joker's first year when we played Florida they AVERAGED over a 5.9 for the FORTY FOUR starters AND backups-------and UK had TWO JC four stars starting, with two walkons, and more two stars than three stars starting. I still say UK's main problem for years has been raw talent, not coaching, and Stoops has been the best thing that has ever happened to UK in recruiting------and yes, if he doesn't start winning he will be gone.

But I think the talent and experience starts kicking in right about now.

 

[jauk11]

I understand Bitter Football Fan pills are available at your Wal-Mart pharmacy. They aren't guaranteed, but have been known to numb fans into missing football season altogether.

It wouldn't work for some of our fans on here, they would have to take a terminal dose to have any effect.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

I prefer to be an optimist, we live longer. In fact, I'm pretty sure I have already lived longer than you ever will, I think you have to get someones permission to get life insurance on someone, with your attitude may I have your permission to buy some on you? With me as the beneficiary, of course.

Look, I posted some very impressive FACTS to support my theory that UK football will get better, and while Stoops staff has made some big mistakes he has replaced a lot of those coaches. Is Stoops the one wholly responsible for all the goofs, and it is a fairly new staff with him learning about being a head coach as he goes. I think he has taken GIANT steps to correct the major problems we have had.

So, you don't think replacing an OL that was on our best offensive team this century that averaged a 5.2 with one that is rated about a 5.8 (this year, with a 5.4 best player on that OL, a Remington Candidate pulling down the average) and that wlll average a 5.94 next year if we get Wills isn't pretty amazing? And that it really won't make that much difference because Dawson will make a stupid call------Oh, I forgot, he isn't here any more either------did you forget that too?

Does it mean nothing to you that the rest of the 07 team had ONE four star on offense, with ZERO 5.7s, with ONE 5.6 and two 5.5s (with a 4.9 starting) could be replaced with EVERY player being a 5.8 or higher (IF that was the only thing important, it isn't, we do have some great underrated players that will start), isn't that simply an amazing upgrade in talent? And yeah, lots of individual misses in ratings, but whole teams being rated that much higher does matter.

I may be an optimist, I like it, but you are ridiculous in the other direction in all your posts, and if Stoops does fail he will leave UK in MUCH better shape because he has shown that UK can recruit at a pretty high level (ONLY with the MUCH better support, Brooks AND Joker never had a chance) and UK will be able to get a very good replacement with the talent they will have on board.

Most of our coaching mistakes will be upgraded, several new coaches where needed and the coaches are farther along in their learning curve also.

Muschamp is a hotheaded idiot, I would never play for him-----and his players didn't. I'm not going through that long analysis again but in Joker's first year when we played Florida they AVERAGED over a 5.9 for the FORTY FOUR starters AND backups-------and UK had TWO JC four stars starting, with two walkons, and more two stars than three stars starting. I still say UK's main problem for years has been raw talent, not coaching, and Stoops has been the best thing that has ever happened to UK in recruiting------and yes, if he doesn't start winning he will be gone.

But I think the talent and experience starts kicking in right about now.

I 100% agree with the fact that once stoops fails. Which IMO is very likely. That he will leave the program in much better shape with the talent he has brought in. I have made that point plenty of times that one positive thing about stoops being here is that once he's gone we can maybe find a coach that can actually coach up the talent, that still currently ranks between 11-13 in the SEC EVERY season. So we need a coach like brooks that can coach up talent if we want to take the next step. And you're crazy if you think being optimistic towards UK football will increase your life span. Being an optimist towards UK football takes someone who is a very special person. And those who are optimistic about UK football usually get more heartbroken then those of us that know what to expect. Therefor more stress leading to a shorter life span. So your theory is actually the opposite of what you think considering I can't imagine how many times you've been let down in the past expecting so much more out of UK football. Absolutely stupidest thing I've read on this board. UK football optimists live a longer life, because being a UK football optimist has anything to do with real life. just wow. Can you just stop please? As I said it takes a very special person to be optimistic towards UK football. And those who are don't live longer because they are, being an optimist towards UK football has nothing to do with life and being an optimist towards life.

Im optimistic about everything in life except UK football. I mean why would I be? I'm not buying this theory of average player recruiting rating ranking index leading to guaranteed success. There's so much more to the game. See muschamp at Florida? All I was getting at. Is that every single one of your posts that say we have a bright future ahead all refer to the average players recruiting rating rankings index as if that's where football games are won, not the field. It's the average player recruiting rating ranking index is where the games are won. These ratings don't refer to how horribly prepared our team is going into game day and all the other factors. You just point at one thing and act as if it means guaranteed success.

You act like that finishing 11-13 in the SEC in these rating systems means guaranteed success. No, if they play to there recruiting ratings, then that's means we should expect finishing between 11-13 in the SEC standings. You can be optimistic about UK football all you want. You're the one that's going to be stressing much more than I, the realist who waits to see it to believe it after decades of continuos heartbreak. Which one is going to stress more. The optimist towards UK football, or the realist towards UK football? Huge difference between a pessimist and a realist. Everyone would say the ridiculously overly optimistic UK football fan will stress much more. Therefor leading the optimist to a shorter life span. The vandy game last season. Ruined all faith I had in stoops. It was the most poorly coached game I've ever seen in my entire life regardless of level of competition.

Until I see a coach that looks halfway competent, one who doesn't make every excuse in the world after games, one who doesn't look lost on the sidelines. One who doesn't get excited over calling a timeout to save 5 yards ON A PUNT as if it was the greatest coaching move ever, and later in the same game not calling a timeout to save 5 yards on a field goal, a field goal that was missed by inches because we didn't call the timeout. So punts are more important than points to stoops? Until I see a change in these sort of things. Like in the same game as the timeout errors, where we ran the ball out of the shotgun 3 straight plays from the inch line coming up with zero points (worst series of 4 plays I've ever seen my entire life, didn't try the qb sneak til 4th down, when that should've been the play the first 3 downs). Then I see no reason for optimism. Because believe it or not. Average player recruiting rating ranking index doesn't equate to games won. Especially when you're finishing between 11-13th in your conference every season with possibly the worst in game head coach in the entire conference that's coached a game before.

And btw you stood up for towles playing ability the entire season last season because according to you, the coaches knew what they were doing with the QB situation. You also argued that he's a damn good quarterback til the very end. But the reality is barker should've been named starter midseason and should be much more game ready for this season than he actually is.

 

[Claynole]

Well I know it’s not much of a consolation to you guys, but my family is also from the Jacksonville area. My daughter is committed to the University of Kentucky gymnastics program Class of 2018. She’s been to Nationals twice as a Level 10 and she’s really good. We love Lexington. She is not going anywhere else but Kentucky. At least you want have to worry about her. LOL Go Cats!!!!

 

[jauk11]

I give you FACTS to support my optimism. You make up facts: "that still currently ranks between 11-13 in the SEC EVERY season."

UK finished NINTH in the SEC in 14, coming off a TWO win NO SEC win season, and a VERY GOOD 30th in the nation. Better than 61st any day. In 15 we dropped off a lot because of the rash of late player decommitments, still a very good finish with some very underrated players that everyone (but you) is excited about, some of our brightest prospects as underclassmen. In 16 we finished 10th in the SEC, again top 30 in the nation, Currently we are 6th in the SEC and top 20 in the nation, that after losing two highly rated commits.

But congratulations, you got one out of three right.

Look, being a UK football fan isn't for the faint of heart, and yes we have a long way to go, but your constant negativity and tearing down our coaching staff that WILL be here two more years is very harmful IMO. Personally I have more optimism about our program right now than in decades, and there ARE good reasons for feeling that way, first the DBs have gone from crap to elite, now the OL looks like it is going from a big weakness to a big strength, the rest of our offense can start a four star at EVERY other position with some sitting on the bench, we have some VERY talented young players coming up on D, and all you want to do is get on here and gripe and tear down our coaching staff, which has NOT been sitting still if you hadn't noticed.

Maybe it is time for some of us to move on, and I have been following the Cats since the Babe was throwing jump passes and Ray Correll made All American by making half the tackles on punting downs. from his OG position. I have survived some WINLESS seasons, I'm not about to leave. From your posts I don't see how in hell you can enjoy following UK, but you do seem to be able to irritate quite a few people with your constant negativity and trashing of the coaches.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

I give you FACTS to support my optimism. You make up facts: "that still currently ranks between 11-13 in the SEC EVERY season."

UK finished NINTH in the SEC in 14, coming off a TWO win NO SEC win season, and a VERY GOOD 30th in the nation. Better than 61st any day. In 15 we dropped off a lot because of the rash of late player decommitments, still a very good finish with some very underrated players that everyone (but you) is excited about, some of our brightest prospects as underclassmen. In 16 we finished 10th in the SEC, again top 30 in the nation, Currently we are 6th in the SEC and top 20 in the nation, that after losing two highly rated commits.

But congratulations, you got one out of three right.

Look, being a UK football fan isn't for the faint of heart, and yes we have a long way to go, but your constant negativity and tearing down our coaching staff that WILL be here two more years is very harmful IMO. Personally I have more optimism about our program right now than in decades, and there ARE good reasons for feeling that way, first the DBs have gone from crap to elite, now the OL looks like it is going from a big weakness to a big strength, the rest of our offense can start a four star at EVERY other position with some sitting on the bench, we have some VERY talented young players coming up on D, and all you want to do is get on here and gripe and tear down our coaching staff, which has NOT been sitting still if you hadn't noticed.

Maybe it is time for some of us to move on, and I have been following the Cats since the Babe was throwing jump passes and Ray Correll made All American by making half the tackles on punting downs. from his OG position. I have survived some WINLESS seasons, I'm not about to leave. From your posts I don't see how in hell you can enjoy following UK, but you do seem to be able to irritate quite a few people with your constant negativity and trashing of the coaches.

Ok. So one season we finished 9th is it? And that's our best one? Hate to break it to you but we're not going to finish 6th in the SEC recruiting rankings. This happens every year. At the beginning of the process we're always in the top 15. But by the end when everyone else gets there's we end towards the bottom. Every season. I think one season at one point in the beginning for like a few days we had the number one class at some point a couple years ago. Doesn't mean nothing. And I love UK. I was born there. I graduated from the school. I bleed blue as much or more than anyone. Doesn't mean I have to be unrealistic by having blown up expectations of something that is likely not going to happen under stoops. Trashing our coaches? What are you talking about? If being an honest, realist is considered trashing our coaches. Then sure. I guess you feel as if the only true fans are the ones who live in fairy prarie princess land where it's 70 and sunny everyday and no one ever dies, wars don't happen and no one in the world is hungry. So in your opinion those are the ones who truly bleed blue? The ones who set unrealistic expectations for the football program.

I got a lil tid bit for you. Going into the '15 season. Stoops promised a drastically improved product on the field compared to the '14 team with a much easier schedule, said it was the first time since being here he was comfortable with the talent level and depth on his roster and said this is the only time he's felt good about his team and where they are since being here and said for everyone to come out to the new renovated stadium for a special break thru season to see a much improved, winning product on the field. And it was the first time he was willing to tell fans this things since he's been here because it was the first time he was comfortable with his roster. Let's fast forward to the end of the season. After the season. Here's a quote from stoops when asked if he felt they underachieved compared to preseason expectations. Just because we have a newly renovated stadium doesn't mean i can just wave a magic wand and field a winning football team. That's what he said before the season, and what he said after the season.

To me, and everyone else who has ever watched the sport of football. Sure sounds like a coach who is in way over his head. And since you love to do research on recruiting. Dig this one up for me. Since stoops has been here. What is the average recruiting rating ranking in the SEC with the classes that have made it to school with the last one being the kash, young class since obviously we don't know how the '17 class is gonna shape up since there hasn't even been a signing day yet.. And let me know if it falls in between that 11-13 range. I'm just curious. Thanks in advance.

As stated by a previous poster on this thread. You're the biggest sunshine pumping fan on the football board. Next to merriman. Who IMO is the worst UK FB poster on here by a large margin. I'm not a bad fan for being realistic and setting realistic expectations. I'm not going to sunshine pump something that in no way is even close to being a sure fire success story at UK. I have seen nothing from stoops in game coaching ability to suggest success. And if you claim you have seen such, then that just shows you're knowledge for the game. I don't care how long you've been watching. If you've seen something from stoops in game coaching so far that indicates future success. Then you're crazy. Not one time. Did we make in game/halftime adjustments whenever opponents decided to switch up a scheme on offense or defense. Hence why every running QB had field days on us.

Hate to break this to you. Just because we have recruiting rating rankings here that we've never had before in our history. Doesn't automatically equate to success. There've been many coaches that have had tons more talent than we do in lesser conferences who have still failed miserably. And judging by what we've seen from stoops in game coaching abilities (or lack thereof) there's no reason to believe it'll be different under Stoops. Not to mention player development (if you judge it based on recruiting rankings) across the board has been beyond terrible, there's an exception here and there as there is on every roster in the country, but in totality it's been bad. Just because you've never seen this kind of recruiting. Doesn't mean jump the gun and guarantee future success because we saw what happened with Muschamp at Florida.

I feel like just because youve never seen recruiting like this you're just like OMG OMG OMG WE'RE OTW TO BEING A POWERHOUSE OMG UK HAS NEVER HAD THESE RECRUITS BEFORE SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA WIN BIG YAY! But if you understood football at all. You would've learned that during the brooks era. When the 2 teams step on the field. You throw the recruiting rankings out the window and play football. Brooks should be enough for you to not judge everything based on recruiting rankings, yet. There you are. Blabbering left and right over average player point system recruiting rating ranking index's as if it means guaranteed success. Just sad really.

Compare our last seasons team to brooks team that beat LSU and see the difference in the average point system of the players. And itll show you how little it matters when a coach knows how to evaluate and develop talent. Something I haven't seen any of under stoops as far as the developing aspect goes. I bet you stoops roster is so far exponentially ahead of brooks when it comes to the point system of the players on the roster that it's not even funny. Yet we were garbage last season and brooks team, with way less talent (if you judge everything on recruiting rating rankings like yourself) would've pulverized this team and won by 3-4 TD's if the 2 teams played. Wonder what EKU's roster's average player point system recruiting rating ranking was compared to ours last season. Says a lot about the coach. Believe it or not. Just calling it how I see it BASED ON WHATS HAPPENED ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD. But hey man if sunshine pumping and unrealistic expectations is what helps you get thru your days, then you can have that. You may now carry on with your unrealistic sunshine pumping ways. Sad.

For some reason I feel like you were in a coma during the entire football season last season or something. Because I just can't understand for the life of me, how someone could watch our football team last season and the way our coaches approached the game and somehow be so confident in the future of this team. Nothing about watching our team last season should be giving even the most hopeful of fans any reason to be so heavily confident that future success is on its way. Especially when you factor in the post game and postseason excuses stoops came up with every week. How someone doesn't see that as a coach being way of there head. Just. Wow. Anyways. 5-14 over last 19 games with zero quality wins. Time to put up or shut up. If we don't put up this season. Then you need to shut up.

 

[How Blue Can You Get?]

Well, it’s been a little over 24 hours since the news broke that a certain highly-rated QB from Jacksonville FL who had been committed to UK for almost a year decided to commit to another program.

I was pretty butt hurt about this last night and early this morning, I gotta admit. A lot of UK fans, certainly myself included, thought this kid was fairly solid to UK, and that only a major dumpster-fire season in the fall would sway him to consider other options. Personally, I think the kid should have considered a formal “re-opening my recruitment” kind of announcement, perhaps waited a week or two, and then formally commit to the other school. I guess he’s the kind that just likes to rip the Band-Aid off.

It’s easier said than done, but it’s time to turn the page. On my way from work this afternoon, the phrase that John Calipari has used previously popped into my head, and he’s right – I’m not going to let some 17-year old kid’s decision steal my joy. Again, easier said than done, but this thread will (hopefully) be my last post about a young man whose concept of “marriage” to Stoops and the UK. I got news for you, im a die hard uk ffootball fan, but no high school football player is stealing my joy, especially in june? I mean, i know you are being facitious and all but life is much bigger than uk football. A loved one dying might steal my joy. A high school football recruit decomitting is an afterthought to most everything else.

 

[jauk11]

Well I know it’s not much of a consolation to you guys, but my family is also from the Jacksonville area. My daughter is committed to the University of Kentucky gymnastics program Class of 2018. She’s been to Nationals twice as a Level 10 and she’s really good. We love Lexington. She is not going anywhere else but Kentucky. At least you want have to worry about her. LOL Go Cats!!!!

Congratulations, and welcome aboard. While UK isn't a power in that at present, it is obvious that ALL the sports are being elevated a great deal, and while most of that money comes from football the other sports are very worthwhile also. I watch all UK sports when I can, (watched most of the national track meet from Oregon, we have a freshman woman' hurdler that is a phenom, along with several other great athletes) and even though I know nothing about the intricacies of gymnastics I can appreciate the tremendous athleticism and beauty involved, I have watched quite a bit of it, and that there are a lot of hardships and injuries involved in that also. Hopefully your daughter will be involved in building a great program and have a great college experience here, maybe even be on a very competitive team.

That is what I thought Jones was interested in doing, apparently that was just idle talk.

UK is a great University, and a wise choice for top athletes IMO, great city, great coaches (or soon gone, and yes four or five years isn't unreasonable for a program starting from close to zero, although other sports shouldn't take nearly that long), at UK your daughter will be associating with coaches that aren't scumbags and not in a drug culture, a;though the world is full of temptations now anywhere you go.

Thanks for choosing UK, and although your sport has nothing to do with football don't you think that fans publicly dissing our coaches and calling out their every mistake is a problem, and concerned parents do get involved in reading these sites to see what the atmosphere is like and whether the coach they like will even be here in a year or two. In football or basketball the risk of having your coach OR offspring being trashed if you post on here is a real danger, either by some of our "outspoken" (being kind) fans and especially by some of our trolls.

 

[jauk11]

Ok. So one season we finished 9th is it? And that's our best one? Hate to break it to you but we're not going to finish 6th in the SEC recruiting rankings. This happens every year. At the beginning of the process we're always in the top 15. But by the end when everyone else gets there's we end towards the bottom. Every season. I think one season at one point in the beginning for like a few days we had the number one class at some point a couple years ago. Doesn't mean nothing. And I love UK. I was born there. I graduated from the school. I bleed blue as much or more than anyone. Doesn't mean I have to be unrealistic by having blown up expectations of something that is likely not going to happen under stoops. Trashing our coaches? What are you talking about? If being an honest, realist is considered trashing our coaches. Then sure. I guess you feel as if the only true fans are the ones who live in fairy prarie princess land where it's 70 and sunny everyday and no one ever dies, wars don't happen and no one in the world is hungry. So in your opinion those are the ones who truly bleed blue? The ones who set unrealistic expectations for the football program.

I got a lil tid bit for you. Going into the '15 season. Stoops promised a drastically improved product on the field compared to the '14 team with a much easier schedule, said it was the first time since being here he was comfortable with the talent level and depth on his roster and said this is the only time he's felt good about his team and where they are since being here and said for everyone to come out to the new renovated stadium for a special break thru season to see a much improved, winning product on the field. And it was the first time he was willing to tell fans this things since he's been here because it was the first time he was comfortable with his roster. Let's fast forward to the end of the season. After the season. Here's a quote from stoops when asked if he felt they underachieved compared to preseason expectations. Just because we have a newly renovated stadium doesn't mean i can just wave a magic wand and field a winning football team. That's what he said before the season, and what he said after the season.

To me, and everyone else who has ever watched the sport of football. Sure sounds like a coach who is in way over his head. And since you love to do research on recruiting. Dig this one up for me. Since stoops has been here. What is the average recruiting rating ranking in the SEC with the classes that have made it to school with the last one being the kash, young class since obviously we don't know how the '17 class is gonna shape up since there hasn't even been a signing day yet.. And let me know if it falls in between that 11-13 range. I'm just curious. Thanks in advance.

As stated by a previous poster on this thread. You're the biggest sunshine pumping fan on the football board. Next to merriman. Who IMO is the worst UK FB poster on here by a large margin. I'm not a bad fan for being realistic and setting realistic expectations. I'm not going to sunshine pump something that in no way is even close to being a sure fire success story at UK. I have seen nothing from stoops in game coaching ability to suggest success. And if you claim you have seen such, then that just shows you're knowledge for the game. I don't care how long you've been watching. If you've seen something from stoops in game coaching so far that indicates future success. Then you're crazy. Not one time. Did we make in game/halftime adjustments whenever opponents decided to switch up a scheme on offense or defense. Hence why every running QB had field days on us.

Hate to break this to you. Just because we have recruiting rating rankings here that we've never had before in our history. Doesn't automatically equate to success. There've been many coaches that have had tons more talent than we do in lesser conferences who have still failed miserably. And judging by what we've seen from stoops in game coaching abilities (or lack thereof) there's no reason to believe it'll be different under Stoops. Not to mention player development (if you judge it based on recruiting rankings) across the board has been beyond terrible, there's an exception here and there as there is on every roster in the country, but in totality it's been bad. Just because you've never seen this kind of recruiting. Doesn't mean jump the gun and guarantee future success because we saw what happened with Muschamp at Florida.

I feel like just because youve never seen recruiting like this you're just like OMG OMG OMG WE'RE OTW TO BEING A POWERHOUSE OMG UK HAS NEVER HAD THESE RECRUITS BEFORE SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA WIN BIG YAY! But if you understood football at all. You would've learned that during the brooks era. When the 2 teams step on the field. You throw the recruiting rankings out the window and play football. Brooks should be enough for you to not judge everything based on recruiting rankings, yet. There you are. Blabbering left and right over average player point system recruiting rating ranking index's as if it means guaranteed success. Just sad really.

Compare our last seasons team to brooks team that beat LSU and see the difference in the average point system of the players. And itll show you how little it matters when a coach knows how to evaluate and develop talent. Something I haven't seen any of under stoops as far as the developing aspect goes. I bet you stoops roster is so far exponentially ahead of brooks when it comes to the point system of the players on the roster that it's not even funny. Yet we were garbage last season and brooks team, with way less talent (if you judge everything on recruiting rating rankings like yourself) would've pulverized this team and won by 3-4 TD's if the 2 teams played. Wonder what EKU's roster's average player point system recruiting rating ranking was compared to ours last season. Says a lot about the coach. Believe it or not. Just calling it how I see it BASED ON WHATS HAPPENED ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD. But hey man if sunshine pumping and unrealistic expectations is what helps you get thru your days, then you can have that. You may now carry on with your unrealistic sunshine pumping ways. Sad.

For some reason I feel like you were in a coma during the entire football season last season or something. Because I just can't understand for the life of me, how someone could watch our football team last season and the way our coaches approached the game and somehow be so confident in the future of this team. Nothing about watching our team last season should be giving even the most hopeful of fans any reason to be so heavily confident that future success is on its way. Especially when you factor in the post game and postseason excuses stoops came up with every week. How someone doesn't see that as a coach being way of there head. Just. Wow. Anyways. 5-14 over last 19 games with zero quality wins. Time to put up or shut up. If we don't put up this season. Then you need to shut up.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to the season, what a sad person you must be.

What a rant. What were your feelings about Brooks when LSU beat us 48-3 or whatever it was? Personally I think finishing ninth in the SEC in recruiting (when SIX of the top ten are often from the SEC) is a LONG way from finishing 13th, ahead of only Vandy I presume. Did you know that in Joker's first year the SEVEN SEC teams that we played (Minus Vandy but including the two misses) AVERAGED 38 four star commits (plus five stars) the previous four years while UK had TWO JC four stars playing? Pretty scary stat, huh, and yet that year UK upset top ten SC AND came within THREE points of NC Cam and Auburn. And that was with Joker coaching, can you believe it? I don't think UK would have made any of our bowl games under Brooks without the upsets we had.

So, you think we might only win four games this year, which means Southern Miss would have to upset us. So, even with that happening, with two other OOC gimmes, and at least three SEC games we are favored to win and some others we aren't completely outclassed in we are going to be upset TWICE and not have any chance of upsetting some other school that won't be that big a favorite over us? Why don't you bet on the under with UK, a real chance to clean up big, AND put your money where your mouth is.

You don't have to be a UK homer to think UK might have something going for it, Saturday Down South predicts a high of 8 and a low of 5 wins for UK this year, but of course I'm sure you have done more research on the other teams than they have. And this year is just the beginning, if you look at the roster, SEVENTEEN will be the deciding year for this staff.

Also an interesting tidbit, an article by a recruiting expert says the Bama QB commit was by far the best QB at the Elite Eleven------and he wasn't talking about Jones. We should be good until the 18 class, and a lot of time left before the 17 class, let alone the 18 class. I think a LOT of QBs and skill players will like the idea of playing behind the OL this staff is building. And it isn't basketball, it takes a lot more time.

I don't understand why this staff even bothers going after top rated players and trying to compete with teams like Bama and OSU, just get a bunch of two and three stars like Brooks did and coach them up. I know Joker, with just about ZERO support, didn't even try, and he only dropped to 61st in his recruiting his last year------and a lot of that was caused by the out of sight negativity by some posters on here, which was a LOT more deserved then than it is now.

Thanks for doing your part.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

Congratulations, and welcome aboard. While UK isn't a power in that at present, it is obvious that ALL the sports are being elevated a great deal, and while most of that money comes from football the other sports are very worthwhile also. I watch all UK sports when I can, (watched most of the national track meet from Oregon, we have a freshman woman' hurdler that is a phenom, along with several other great athletes) and even though I know nothing about the intricacies of gymnastics I can appreciate the tremendous athleticism and beauty involved, I have watched quite a bit of it, and that there are a lot of hardships and injuries involved in that also. Hopefully your daughter will be involved in building a great program and have a great college experience here, maybe even be on a very competitive team.

That is what I thought Jones was interested in doing, apparently that was just idle talk.

UK is a great University, and a wise choice for top athletes IMO, great city, great coaches (or soon gone, and yes four or five years isn't unreasonable for a program starting from close to zero, although other sports shouldn't take nearly that long), at UK your daughter will be associating with coaches that aren't scumbags and not in a drug culture, a;though the world is full of temptations now anywhere you go.

Thanks for choosing UK, and although your sport has nothing to do with football don't you think that fans publicly dissing our coaches and calling out their every mistake is a problem, and concerned parents do get involved in reading these sites to see what the atmosphere is like and whether the coach they like will even be here in a year or two. In football or basketball the risk of having your coach OR offspring being trashed if you post on here is a real danger, either by some of our "outspoken" (being kind) fans and especially by some of our trolls.

They get paid millions to do a dream job. These coaches are allowed to have the fans speak of the flaws they show. Especially when they're as glaring as stoops'. Especially when they get a very undeserved buyout/contract extension. This is how it's going to be for every team in every sport at the college and pro level. If you don't perform. If you make mistake after mistake game after game. The fans who pay to see the BS are sure as hell allowed to speak there mind. Especially one who has invested a ton of money in the university as I have, even the ones who haven't. It's there team and they want to see a quality product. And stoops in game coaching and team preparation has been piss poor thus far. The record for the last 19 games is the evidence. I'm not trashing the man.

I'm simply speaking the truth. He deserves all the pressure in the world from fans right about now. A lot of us. Are fed up. If I'm not a 'good fan' because I'm just plain honest about stoops coaching inability his displayed thus far. Then so be it. I'm not speaking positive about his coaching til he gives me a reason to. You can do so if you want. It's just delusional sunshine pumping. If you think it's wrong to point out the glaring flaws stoops has shown time after time that he gets paid millions for. Then you're just a plain ol softy and that's just what the world has come to.

 

[andreIGUODOLLAsigns4UK]

Yeah, I'm looking forward to the season, what a sad person you must be.

What a rant. What were your feelings about Brooks when LSU beat us 48-3 or whatever it was? Personally I think finishing ninth in the SEC in recruiting (when SIX of the top ten are often from the SEC) is a LONG way from finishing 13th, ahead of only Vandy I presume. Did you know that in Joker's first year the SEVEN SEC teams that we played (Minus Vandy but including the two misses) AVERAGED 38 four star commits (plus five stars) the previous four years while UK had TWO JC four stars playing? Pretty scary stat, huh, and yet that year UK upset top ten SC AND came within THREE points of NC Cam and Auburn. And that was with Joker coaching, can you believe it? I don't think UK would have made any of our bowl games under Brooks without the upsets we had.

So, you think we might only win four games this year, which means Southern Miss would have to upset us. So, even with that happening, with two other OOC gimmes, and at least three SEC games we are favored to win and some others we aren't completely outclassed in we are going to be upset TWICE and not have any chance of upsetting some other school that won't be that big a favorite over us? Why don't you bet on the under with UK, a real chance to clean up big, AND put your money where your mouth is.

You don't have to be a UK homer to think UK might have something going for it, Saturday Down South predicts a high of 8 and a low of 5 wins for UK this year, but of course I'm sure you have done more research on the other teams than they have. And this year is just the beginning, if you look at the roster, SEVENTEEN will be the deciding year for this staff.

Also an interesting tidbit, an article by a recruiting expert says the Bama QB commit was by far the best QB at the Elite Eleven------and he wasn't talking about Jones. We should be good until the 18 class, and a lot of time left before the 17 class, let alone the 18 class. I think a LOT of QBs and skill players will like the idea of playing behind the OL this staff is building. And it isn't basketball, it takes a lot more time.

I don't understand why this staff even bothers going after top rated players and trying to compete with teams like Bama and OSU, just get a bunch of two and three stars like Brooks did and coach them up. I know Joker, with just about ZERO support, didn't even try, and he only dropped to 61st in his recruiting his last year------and a lot of that was caused by the out of sight negativity by some posters on here, which was a LOT more deserved then than it is now.

Thanks for doing your part.

I know more about this Kentucky team. Than Saturday down south does. Considering I go to every home game, have since 2000. And watch every away game. I would bet the house that UK doesn't go 8-5 this year. As much as I wish they would. Just not gonna happen. A sad man I must be for being a realist. Who expects a down season? You're going to be the sad man. When you realized you set your expectations up way too high. Once again. The absolute max wins we get this season is 6. I wouldn't be surprised to see 4-8. I expect 5-7.

Just because you're a sunshine pumping homer. Doesn't make you even a slight bit knowledgeable fan of the game. Or even a good fan. You just look like a dumb Kentucky fan that expects great things year after year on the football field for no reason. It's pathetic that the guy here who has way too high of expectations is calling someone else sad for not thinking we should be a damn good team this season. You're a terrible poster and I posted the facts to disprove your theory. In the last 19 games. We are 5-14. WITH ZERO QUALITY WINS. Look at the list of our wins those 5 games won. By record our best win. In the last 19 games. Is a miracle come from behind OT win against a 6-7 D2 EKU team. And the other 4 wins. 2 against terrible teams. And the other 2 against very bad teams. And you're over here believing we're going to go 8-5 because Saturday down south said so? HAAAA!!!!

I'm done with you you're just a sunshine pumping homer and that'll never change regardless of the results and the numbers and you know it. Anyone with knowledge of the game that looks at the record of the last 19 games. Would have no reason for the overly drastic level of optimism and sunshine pumping you show. I just. I quit with you. You're just an awful poster and nothing will change it.

 

[jauk11]

Congratulations, and welcome aboard. While UK isn't a power in that at present, it is obvious that ALL the sports are being elevated a great deal, and while most of that money comes from football the other sports are very worthwhile also. I watch all UK sports when I can, (watched most of the national track meet from Oregon, we have a freshman woman' hurdler that is a phenom, along with several other great athletes) and even though I know nothing about the intricacies of gymnastics I can appreciate the tremendous athleticism and beauty involved, I have watched quite a bit of it, and that there are a lot of hardships and injuries involved in that also. Hopefully your daughter will be involved in building a great program and have a great college experience here, maybe even be on a very competitive team.

That is what I thought Jones was interested in doing, apparently that was just idle talk.

UK is a great University, and a wise choice for top athletes IMO, great city, great coaches (or soon gone, and yes four or five years isn't unreasonable for a program starting from close to zero, although other sports shouldn't take nearly that long), at UK your daughter will be associating with coaches that aren't scumbags and not in a drug culture, a;though the world is full of temptations now anywhere you go.

Thanks for choosing UK, and although your sport has nothing to do with football don't you think that fans publicly dissing our coaches and calling out their every mistake is a problem, and concerned parents do get involved in reading these sites to see what the atmosphere is like and whether the coach they like will even be here in a year or two. In football or basketball the risk of having your coach OR offspring being trashed if you post on here is a real danger, either by some of our "outspoken" (being kind) fans and especially by some of our trolls.

i think my post was congratulating a proud father that has a lot to be proud of AND that should be congratulated on a very good choice by his daughter.