Don’t let a 17-year old kid steal your joy

theoledog

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Well, it’s been a little over 24 hours since the news broke that a certain highly-rated QB from Jacksonville FL who had been committed to UK for almost a year decided to commit to another program.

I was pretty butt hurt about this last night and early this morning, I gotta admit. A lot of UK fans, certainly myself included, thought this kid was fairly solid to UK, and that only a major dumpster-fire season in the fall would sway him to consider other options. Personally, I think the kid should have considered a formal “re-opening my recruitment” kind of announcement, perhaps waited a week or two, and then formally commit to the other school. I guess he’s the kind that just likes to rip the Band-Aid off.

It’s easier said than done, but it’s time to turn the page. On my way from work this afternoon, the phrase that John Calipari has used previously popped into my head, and he’s right – I’m not going to let some 17-year old kid’s decision steal my joy. Again, easier said than done, but this thread will (hopefully) be my last post about a young man whose concept of “marriage” to Stoops and the UK FB program turned out to be as shallow and superficial as a Kardashian marriage.

That is all . . . . :victory:
Just want to say 1988 that you are wise using Cal's perspective regarding this development... I feel for the coaches as it effects them more than any fan...
In the long run going head to head with Bama for recruits is a good thing... Not saying anything new... CMS and staff know that getting over that .500 hump is critical to the sales pitch.
 
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Defending national champ or a school that hasn't sniffed a bowl bid in years......not a hard decision.
Strange thing is, I would trade this four star kid for a couple solid linemen on defense twice any day.

Agree with the latter part of this 100%, not so much the former. You can, and successful teams often do, put a pretty average QB on a team blessed with a solid D (starting with solid line play) and nice supporting cast (starting with solid line play) and achieve real success.

Put a stellar QB on a perfectly ordinary team, and you get Tim Couch's senior year at UK.

I am sure Lane offered this nugget, though I think who ever steps under center for us in 2-3 years will have a much better team around him than Couch enjoyed.
 
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Jauk11 I'm right there with you times 10, since 1953! What's his name needs to be put on Ignore!
 
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Jauk11 I'm right there with you times 10, since 1953! What's his name needs to be put on Ignore!
I would just like to know where I was incorrect? you're as delusional as he is if you think our team prepares well for games. Or that our coach sure knows how to coach a good game. You'd be very delusional if you believe those 2 things. And just look at the number. Look at our record the last 19 games. And the 5 wins we have in those game. Charlotte. EKU (miracle comeback to force overtime and win), USCjr (worst team in SEC last season), ULL (terrible mid major team last season), and Missouri (also a terrible team). Those are our 5 wins in the last 19 games.

I want UK to do well. Have had season tickets forever and have invested a ton of money into the program. No fan wants them to win more than me. Doesn't mean I have to set unrealistic expectations for a team that has no reason to have any high expectations at this point. Anyone who believe we're winning 8 games this season is flat out crazy. We haven't won 8 games in the last 22 we've played (which there's been a bunch of cupcakes in the last 22 and still didn't win 8 in that span). Yet we're supposed to expect 8 this season? Ha! Delusional. I guess put all the realist on ignore this season and you're gonna have a real delusional looking forum. The thought of it is just comedy to me.
 
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Ok. So one season we finished 9th is it? And that's our best one? Hate to break it to you but we're not going to finish 6th in the SEC recruiting rankings. This happens every year. At the beginning of the process we're always in the top 15. But by the end when everyone else gets there's we end towards the bottom. Every season. I think one season at one point in the beginning for like a few days we had the number one class at some point a couple years ago. Doesn't mean nothing. And I love UK. I was born there. I graduated from the school. I bleed blue as much or more than anyone. Doesn't mean I have to be unrealistic by having blown up expectations of something that is likely not going to happen under stoops. Trashing our coaches? What are you talking about? If being an honest, realist is considered trashing our coaches. Then sure. I guess you feel as if the only true fans are the ones who live in fairy prarie princess land where it's 70 and sunny everyday and no one ever dies, wars don't happen and no one in the world is hungry. So in your opinion those are the ones who truly bleed blue? The ones who set unrealistic expectations for the football program.

I got a lil tid bit for you. Going into the '15 season. Stoops promised a drastically improved product on the field compared to the '14 team with a much easier schedule, said it was the first time since being here he was comfortable with the talent level and depth on his roster and said this is the only time he's felt good about his team and where they are since being here and said for everyone to come out to the new renovated stadium for a special break thru season to see a much improved, winning product on the field. And it was the first time he was willing to tell fans this things since he's been here because it was the first time he was comfortable with his roster. Let's fast forward to the end of the season. After the season. Here's a quote from stoops when asked if he felt they underachieved compared to preseason expectations. Just because we have a newly renovated stadium doesn't mean i can just wave a magic wand and field a winning football team. That's what he said before the season, and what he said after the season.

To me, and everyone else who has ever watched the sport of football. Sure sounds like a coach who is in way over his head. And since you love to do research on recruiting. Dig this one up for me. Since stoops has been here. What is the average recruiting rating ranking in the SEC with the classes that have made it to school with the last one being the kash, young class since obviously we don't know how the '17 class is gonna shape up since there hasn't even been a signing day yet.. And let me know if it falls in between that 11-13 range. I'm just curious. Thanks in advance.

As stated by a previous poster on this thread. You're the biggest sunshine pumping fan on the football board. Next to merriman. Who IMO is the worst UK FB poster on here by a large margin. I'm not a bad fan for being realistic and setting realistic expectations. I'm not going to sunshine pump something that in no way is even close to being a sure fire success story at UK. I have seen nothing from stoops in game coaching ability to suggest success. And if you claim you have seen such, then that just shows you're knowledge for the game. I don't care how long you've been watching. If you've seen something from stoops in game coaching so far that indicates future success. Then you're crazy. Not one time. Did we make in game/halftime adjustments whenever opponents decided to switch up a scheme on offense or defense. Hence why every running QB had field days on us.

Hate to break this to you. Just because we have recruiting rating rankings here that we've never had before in our history. Doesn't automatically equate to success. There've been many coaches that have had tons more talent than we do in lesser conferences who have still failed miserably. And judging by what we've seen from stoops in game coaching abilities (or lack thereof) there's no reason to believe it'll be different under Stoops. Not to mention player development (if you judge it based on recruiting rankings) across the board has been beyond terrible, there's an exception here and there as there is on every roster in the country, but in totality it's been bad. Just because you've never seen this kind of recruiting. Doesn't mean jump the gun and guarantee future success because we saw what happened with Muschamp at Florida.

I feel like just because youve never seen recruiting like this you're just like OMG OMG OMG WE'RE OTW TO BEING A POWERHOUSE OMG UK HAS NEVER HAD THESE RECRUITS BEFORE SO OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GONNA WIN BIG YAY! But if you understood football at all. You would've learned that during the brooks era. When the 2 teams step on the field. You throw the recruiting rankings out the window and play football. Brooks should be enough for you to not judge everything based on recruiting rankings, yet. There you are. Blabbering left and right over average player point system recruiting rating ranking index's as if it means guaranteed success. Just sad really.

Compare our last seasons team to brooks team that beat LSU and see the difference in the average point system of the players. And itll show you how little it matters when a coach knows how to evaluate and develop talent. Something I haven't seen any of under stoops as far as the developing aspect goes. I bet you stoops roster is so far exponentially ahead of brooks when it comes to the point system of the players on the roster that it's not even funny. Yet we were garbage last season and brooks team, with way less talent (if you judge everything on recruiting rating rankings like yourself) would've pulverized this team and won by 3-4 TD's if the 2 teams played. Wonder what EKU's roster's average player point system recruiting rating ranking was compared to ours last season. Says a lot about the coach. Believe it or not. Just calling it how I see it BASED ON WHATS HAPPENED ON THE FOOTBALL FIELD. But hey man if sunshine pumping and unrealistic expectations is what helps you get thru your days, then you can have that. You may now carry on with your unrealistic sunshine pumping ways. Sad.

For some reason I feel like you were in a coma during the entire football season last season or something. Because I just can't understand for the life of me, how someone could watch our football team last season and the way our coaches approached the game and somehow be so confident in the future of this team. Nothing about watching our team last season should be giving even the most hopeful of fans any reason to be so heavily confident that future success is on its way. Especially when you factor in the post game and postseason excuses stoops came up with every week. How someone doesn't see that as a coach being way of there head. Just. Wow. Anyways. 5-14 over last 19 games with zero quality wins. Time to put up or shut up. If we don't put up this season. Then you need to shut up.
My friend, you should be writing speeches for Donald Trump.
 
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