Donald Trump Is a Terrible Negotiator

Boomboom521

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Boardroom tactics don't work well in political football...like Chip Kelly's offense in the NFL
 

moe

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wishful thinking by folks totally lacking such skills and envious of those who have succeeded in the employment of them. Moronic Dem talking points.
The writer critiques Trump's negotiating tactics since he's been in office so there's no wishful thinking, it's already happened. I wouldn't call any of it talking points. The BS he used to try in the private sector doesn't translate well to his new job.
 

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The writer critiques Trump's negotiating tactics since he's been in office so there's no wishful thinking, it's already happened. I wouldn't call any of it talking points. The BS he used to try in the private sector doesn't translate well to his new job.


You say that but he is nevertheless consistently getting his agenda enacted...regulatory relief, increased domestic energy production, tax cut legislation, Health care do over, reworking global trade agreements, redoing climate change signatories, renegotiating our financial commitments to NATO, reorganizing our force structure in Asia, rebuilding our military, cracking down on enforcement of illegal immigration, and redoing cash disbursements under HUD among others.
 

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I agree with a lot of it, but, Ryan has had his hand in it quite a lot as well. It was his decision to run with healthcare behind all closed doors without bringing in those he expected to vote for it.
True.
 

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One thing I think he's understanding is not all Republicans are on his side either. With the infrastructure bill, he knew he needed Democrat support to offset Conservative resistance, just like he needs Conservatives to overpower moderates in the GOP who don't like him, or his Health care reforms.

It's not a "rubber stamp" Congress, and he's slowly understanding he has to fight both sides of the isle to get his proposals enacted.
 
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Keyser76

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Lol, Maybe the best negotiators aren't people who say they are the best negotiators.
 

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Ever heard of North Korea, moron? You need to understand strategic thinking, which I know is impossible for you.
Plus Trump has a new tower going up in the Philippines. Just good business from our swamp drainer in chief.
 

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Plus Trump has a new tower going up in the Philippines. Just good business from our swamp drainer in chief.
Business goes on. Was the tower in the works before the election? Do you think Kerry suspended all roll outs of planned Heinz products while he was doing the countries business?
 

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Business goes on. Was the tower in the works before the election? Do you think Kerry suspended all roll outs of planned Heinz products while he was doing the countries business?
I believe the Kerry's owned 2-3% of Heinz and divested before he took over, but I thought this administration would be draining the swamp? lol
 

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His wife owned far more.
Maybe she owned more when she was married to the Heinz family, but not in years.

Heinz Kerry, heir to the Heinz fortune (and wife of Secretary of State John Kerry), won’t personally profit from the merger, according to a Heinz spokesman and analysts who spoke with Boston.com. Heinz Kerry cashed out her company stock when Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway and 3G Capital acquired Heinz in 2013, Heinz said.

At the time of the sale, Heinz Kerry reportedly held less than a 1 percent stake in the company, an even smaller figure than the 4 percent reported by the Heinz company during John Kerry’s 2004 presidential campaign.

 

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I believe the Kerry's owned 2-3% of Heinz and divested before he took over, but I thought this administration would be draining the swamp? lol
AP Published 1:47 p.m. ET Feb. 14, 2013 | Updated 3:48 p.m. ET Feb. 14, 2013
WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State John Kerry's financial portfolio could grow by hundreds of thousands of dollars from Thursday's $23 billion deal between billionaire Warren Buffett and a Brazilian-owned investment firm to buy out ketchup producer H.J. Heinz Co. 2010 financial disclosure forms show at least $3 million in Heinz stock in family trusts.Kerry said he would recuse himself from decisions involving the Heinz company when appropriate.
 

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Maybe she owned more when she was married to the Heinz family, but not in years.

Heinz Kerry, heir to the Heinz fortune (and wife of Secretary of State John Kerry), won’t personally profit from the merger, according to a Heinz spokesman and analysts who spoke with Boston.com. Heinz Kerry cashed out her company stock when Warren Buffett’s Berkshire Hathaway and 3G Capital acquired Heinz in 2013, Heinz said.

At the time of the sale, Heinz Kerry reportedly held less than a 1 percent stake in the company, an even smaller figure than the 4 percent reported by the Heinz company during John Kerry’s 2004 presidential campaign.


Care to try again?
 

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AP Published 1:47 p.m. ET Feb. 14, 2013 | Updated 3:48 p.m. ET Feb. 14, 2013
WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State John Kerry's financial portfolio could grow by hundreds of thousands of dollars from Thursday's $23 billion deal between billionaire Warren Buffett and a Brazilian-owned investment firm to buy out ketchup producer H.J. Heinz Co. 2010 financial disclosure forms show at least $3 million in Heinz stock in family trusts.Kerry said he would recuse himself from decisions involving the Heinz company when appropriate.
2010. Before he was SOS, no?

Sorry. Read it wrong. It said he could grow...did it? And again, they owned 1-2% of Heinz.
 

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lol. Coming from the ones making excuses for the Trumps. Drain that swamp!! Drain that swamp!!

Trump is a businessman. The first in a long, long time. He naturally has business interests from which he has divorced himself. That is all that you can ask since asking him to sell all his assets is ridiculous. He is rich enough he doesn't have to make $400K speeches or sign $20M book deals like Obama. And Obama railed against making too much money and now look at him. Suddenly he is a capitalist.
 

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So 1 - 2% of Heniz is small? You are really, really dumb.
You sure are running away from your comment that she owned MUCH more then a few % of stock. lol. Keep moving those goal posts. Eventually the plebes will see the Trumps for what they are.
 

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Trump is a businessman. The first in a long, long time. He naturally has business interests from which he has divorced himself. That is all that you can ask since asking him to sell all his assets is ridiculous. He is rich enough he doesn't have to make $400K speeches or sign $20M book deals like Obama. And Obama railed against making too much money and now look at him. Suddenly he is a capitalist.
But Obama shouldn't make money after serving the nation for 8 years? Ridiculous. I was more upset about the money he made for his campaign to beat McCain and Romney than I am about the money one makes after leaving office.

Trump wants to be the sacrificing President of the people, ok. I think that's great. But why Mar a Lago? Why do things that requires the Federal government to pay his businesses? I wouldn't want him to sell his assets off, but I think it's legitimate to ask him to not conduct business in the Oval in a way that enhances those assets directly and substantially. That's not a legitimate request?
 

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You sure are running away from your comment that she owned MUCH more then a few % of stock. lol. Keep moving those goal posts. Eventually the plebes will see the Trumps for what they are.

You said he divested before he took over as SOS. Was that accurate? Eventually you Trump haters will run out of steam as we get our tax cuts, our repatriation of overseas profits, our military build-up and more conservative SCOTUS picks.
 

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But Obama shouldn't make money after serving the nation for 8 years? Ridiculous. I was more upset about the money he made for his campaign to beat McCain and Romney than I am about the money one makes after leaving office.

Trump wants to be the sacrificing President of the people, ok. I think that's great. But why Mar a Lago? Why do things that requires the Federal government to pay his businesses? I wouldn't want him to sell his assets off, but I think it's legitimate to ask him to not conduct business in the Oval in a way that enhances those assets directly and substantially. That's not a legitimate request?

Obama told us over and over that "At some point you've made enough money."

He signed a $20M book deal. Now he seeks even more money from Wall Street making speeches. When is enough, enough for Obama? After all, he lectured us for 8 years.

http://hotair.com/archives/2010/04/29/obama-i-do-think-at-a-certain-point-youve-made-enough-money/
 

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You said he divested before he took over as SOS. Was that accurate? Eventually you Trump haters will run out of steam as we get our tax cuts, our repatriation of overseas profits, our military build-up and more conservative SCOTUS picks.
It was accurate. He's also no longer in a position of influence, so I don't know why Trumpers have to bring him up. Stand behind your fleecer.
 

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It was accurate. He's also no longer in a position of influence, so I don't know why Trumpers have to bring him up. Stand behind your fleecer.

It was highly inaccurate. He was in a position of influence at the time. So, you're right and the A/P is wrong? He was SOS in 2013, right?

AP Published 1:47 p.m. ET Feb. 14, 2013 | Updated 3:48 p.m. ET Feb. 14, 2013
WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State John Kerry's financial portfolio could grow by hundreds of thousands of dollars from Thursday's $23 billion deal between billionaire Warren Buffett and a Brazilian-owned investment firm to buy out ketchup producer H.J. Heinz Co. 2010 financial disclosure forms show at least $3 million in Heinz stock in family trusts.Kerry said he would recuse himself from decisions involving the Heinz company when appropriate.
 

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It was highly inaccurate. So, you're right and the A/P is wrong? He was SOS in 2013, right?

AP Published 1:47 p.m. ET Feb. 14, 2013 | Updated 3:48 p.m. ET Feb. 14, 2013
WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State John Kerry's financial portfolio could grow by hundreds of thousands of dollars from Thursday's $23 billion deal between billionaire Warren Buffett and a Brazilian-owned investment firm to buy out ketchup producer H.J. Heinz Co. 2010 financial disclosure forms show at least $3 million in Heinz stock in family trusts.Kerry said he would recuse himself from decisions involving the Heinz company when appropriate.
I see the word could again. He divested his interests in order to avoid conflicts of interest. OGE approved of his plans. And all of that still has nothing to do with the Trumps.

 

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I see the word could again. He divested his interests in order to avoid conflicts of interest. OGE approved of his plans. And all of that still has nothing to do with the Trumps.


You're the one dodging. You said Kerry divested before he became SOS. Not true. Are you right or is the A/P right? Two left wing entities, who to trust? That is a tough one.
 

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You're the one dodging. You said Kerry divested before he became SOS. Not true. Are you right or is the A/P right? Two left wing entities, who to trust? That is a tough one.
It is true. His divest plan satisfied the OGE. More than can be said about the Trumps.
 

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It is true. His divest plan satisfied the OGE. More than can be said about the Trumps.

He did not divest when you said he did. He sold after the acquisition.

Who's right, you or the A/P? Will you finally answer this question?


AP Published 1:47 p.m. ET Feb. 14, 2013 | Updated 3:48 p.m. ET Feb. 14, 2013
WASHINGTON (AP) — Secretary of State John Kerry's financial portfolio could grow by hundreds of thousands of dollars from Thursday's $23 billion deal between billionaire Warren Buffett and a Brazilian-owned investment firm to buy out ketchup producer H.J. Heinz Co. 2010 financial disclosure forms show at least $3 million in Heinz stock in family trusts.Kerry said he would recuse himself from decisions involving the Heinz company when appropriate.