Example A: insanity obsession of in-state kids by some fans.
Dontae Allen is in the portal ...
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Yeah, I will keep up with Arkansas just to see Cal not meet expectations yet again. He can change and start buying portal talent but if the last 5 years prove anything, it won’t matter. He will get tight and have them play wrong, or they may not play defense anymore. It was funny that some people thought Allen would blow up at a smaller school, he never even played.
No problem.
No he couldn’t help us and I don’t want him back on the team.
I had to do a double take to make sure it was from you because I’ve NEVER seen you take that tone with someone. I assumed, on some level, your day was going less than great. i just didn’t know what the source was. It happens, and my record certainly isn’t pristine either.
I agree whole heartedly with your stance and perspective on the OP’s idea. And while it wasn’t directed towards me (and there’s no reason that it should be) I still appreciate your apology to the OP. You’re good people.
It is a single spot that won't make or break Kentucky, so I am all in even if like you said he never gets into the game. Regardless of how others might feel, I think Dontae got a raw deal from Cal. This would be a kind gesture that really wouldn't be that big of a cost to the program and would help right a wrong. Dontae was never going to be a great player, but a good coach would have figured out how to leverage his 3 point shooting by running plays to get him open. I don't think we were a good 3-point shooting team and could have used his shooting in certain situations.
He has no place on a good Kentucky team. Cal was wrong about a lot of things but not Allen.
If Allen is a big contributor on your D1 team. You do not have a good D1 team.
It's weird that the entire board that wanted Cal gone still won't shut up about Cal even when he's finally gone lol.
As far as Allen, no. Just no. He wasn't good at UK. He wasn't good at WKU. Just........why lol.
As far as Allen, no. Just no. He wasn't good at UK. He wasn't good at WKU. Just........why lol.
That's what matters. If the staff thought he could contribute meaningful minutes, and brought him in here, I'd be glad to have another KY kid here. Not just to stick anything to Cal, though, even if I understand the sentiment. That's not a good enough reason.
No. Overrated high school kid that played against weak competition and blew up as a result. Did nothing on the AAU trail or against inferior competition at WKU. Hard pass on him.
Some of you are quick to say no about Dontae, but I recall times when all of our scholarships weren't used, so I still don't see the harm. I recall the head games played on Allen by putting him into games and snatching him out in less than 30 seconds. That kind of nonsense can completely destroy a player's confidence which is what I believed happened to Dontae. The name escapes me now, but early in RP's time at Kentucky, he had a bench player whose only job was to come off the bench to shoot 3s. Dontae could have played that role for Cal, but Cal hated the fact that the kid was from Kentucky so much so that he didn't even try to find a way to use the kids shooting. I know that most won't agree with me which is your right.
I don't do guilt by association.
If they would choose to bring him here, I couldn't care less about that coach that needs to go by by in our minds.
I know Chandler has been away for 2 years, but that kid was too good and too young to have lost that much. If he was in his late 20s or early 30s, there would be a reason for concern, but not at his age.
You're not going to find many quality players to fill up the last 3 or 4 scholarships. No very good player wants to sit and get mop up minutes. You're going to have to get a few guys that know their limitations and just want to be apart of the team. I'd be fine with him coming with the expectation of being a cigar man, but if he played well, he might get bonus minutes. If you don't sign a few guys like Allen, then don't expect to fill up all 13 scholarships.
I pray this is the last thread about Dontaie Allen
No problem at all if there is a scholarship left after the roster is
done.would be a better practice player than Zan Payne.
This is what I’ve been saying. I don’t get people who are saying guys like Caleb Lohner and Allen aren’t worthy of a scholly spot.
WHY NOT? It ain’t like we have a shortage. We only have nine players. If we don’t offer to any guys on this level, then we’ll likely just end up leaving extra scholarships unused. Isn’t a highly experienced D1 player at least better than an empty chair when you’re facing bench depth issues?
In truth, 5th year seniors like these guys are actually perfect for this sort of thing. They only use the scholly for one season and then it’s immediately available for someone better the next. We lose NOTHING by offering these guys.
I guess this really depends.
Are we using up all our scholarships? If so, I don't see room for him. If not, yeah sure why not.
But does Allen even want to be at UK. Who knows.
Beat me to it Ralph. Of course I’m glad you said it because I was going to try to be the so called nice guy. lol. As much as I like Allan and being a Kentucky boy, he wasn’t going to be a big time SEC player. Nothing wrong with that of course, but we need and want guys who can flat out compete for a championship and raise our talent level.
I really wish this kid grew up in Tennessee. If he did, UK would have never recruited him nor would the fanbase be obsessed with him.
What happened with Allen had nothing to do with Cal according to what has been wildly reported. Allen simply didn't work at his craft and take it seriously.
I can't decide between "Don't mind him he's just drunk that's all "or "poor devil he was just too high strung" In reality I don't see anything wrong with taking Allen back if we have a spare spotYou are correct, of course, UK90. Sometimes I let my deep and abiding antipathy for the former guy get the best of me ! Mea culpa. Unfortunately, that's only one of my many failings. Alas.
Go 'Cats ! ! !
I don’t think it would at all be sticking it to Cal, but if Allen wanted to finish out his career at UK and get to celebrate Senior Day in Rupp Arena I wouldn’t be opposed to him taking the last scholarship on the team. I think he’s quality enough to be a solid practice player and eat up some garbage minutes for us. He’s certainly better than some of the 12th and 13th players that Cal would add to the roster each year. As others have mentioned he probably wants to play meaningful minutes in his last year of college basketball so if that’s the case he should explore other options.
Very true. I've always found it fascinating how a segment of our fanbase shows such bias just because of where a player was born. It reminds me of calipari favoring freshmen 5 stars.
I'm in my primeHello, Doc ... How the hell are you ? ! ?
Well, it's good to see you. Tell Johnny Tyler that he can go now ... but have him lay that shotgun down ... and leave it.
I can feel the desire to stick it to Cal by having success with a former player that he buried at the end of the bench, but I don't think it would work. It might backfire, in fact. 
Cal at the beginning of the 9-16 season:
"I like my team."
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LOL.
You think it's weird that our fans won't shut up about Calipari a month after he left the program in ashes when the same fanbase won't shut up about Pitino 27 years after he left the program as the #1 program in the nation?
There is no moving on. This is Kentucky. All of it - past, present and future - matters. It's a surprise you don't seem to understand that.