Donte permanent head coach??
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No, I think certain people misunderstand what I say and why. That’s a them problem, not a me problem.
it is what it is.
You know this is remarkably, almost eerily similar to thanks giving at my in-laws. Neither sister would relinquish the final word…
The Pac 12 is a joke. Clay Helton could walk though 9 and possibly 10 wins so I don’t know how you can make a call based on a PAC 12 record. Mike Bohn will have a tough decision to make. I’m just having fun reading the Williams HC post every other day.
So many USC fans are the turn the other cheek types. They get smacked in the face 3 times (Helton, Sark, Kiffin) and now they want to turn the other cheek to get smack again with a new gamble hire. An intelligent man would learn how to duck and dodge the next time.
So many USC fans are the turn the other cheek types. They get smacked in the face 3 times (Helton, Sark, Kiffin) and now they want to turn the other cheek to get smack again with a new gamble hire. An intelligent man would learn how to duck and dodge the next time.
Agreed, if that’s what it takes, I guess I’ll have to step up, thanks PuddlesYou know this is remarkably, almost eerily similar to thanks giving at my in-laws. Neither sister would relinquish the final word…
For the record, I tried to keep it polite and football focused
Stockholm Syndrome for sure "May I have some more sir"
Not every situation nor every coach is the same. Each should be evaluated on his own merit. We all know if any of those three were coaching this team, these players, in that situation on Saturday, they would have packed it in and we would have lost. If Donte takes this team undefeated the rest of the way and into the CFP or NY Six bowl game...he deserves a look. Also, I think most of us are still taking the wait-and-see approach...I don't see anyone really saying he's the guy. My stance of course is that he's the interim until we have the guy we want. No settling for anyone. Period. I don't want the 5th, 6th, 7th choice on our list. Keep Donte as the interim for as long as it takes. Nobody ever said you cannot keep him in the interim even through next season.
Nobody takes a interim coach into another season? That’s crazy talk if you think you’re still a Blue Blood organization. You have to make a call 1 way or another. Chris Kleiman is right there no excuse to not hire someone.
I don't think those two things are mutually exclusive. I think you can keep Donte as interim AND know what direction you want to go. You just need to find the coach that fits that direction or strategy and not the other way around.
I won’t try….Best thing for CEO, absolutely, but you've got a long way to go to convince me that it was the best thing for USC.
I just don't see handing over the keys to another HC who isn't what we need. I mean where are we? Clamoring for non-power five head coaches who have lost more big games than they have won...or haven't played the level of competition we play on our schedule year in and year out? Kleiman - great a decent coach for where he is...personally I don't think he's a great fit and I don't see him beating Oregon or Notre Dame or LSU. Same goes for Fickell and even Campbell. Let's not take some midwesterner and try to plug them into a Blue Blood program like USC. We need someone near the caliber of Meyer, Saban, Dabo. Very few college coaches fit that description. I would try to pry Riley or Cristobal, but outside of that....I'm heading to the NFL and that coach would need Donte on the staff.
But he is has been an exceptional line coach. His guys win big go to the league. How many top DBs have won awards under Donte? Maybe one or none..again what is he exceptional at? We can get a guy that can recruit as well as him, and kiss the guys too.
I kiss my sons on the cheek all the time
Of all the things we have to concern ourselves with, I just don’t think it’s a big deal, especially given the emotion or the situation
Blem on the real, we just had a coach who had the loves of his life. Kissing your loved ones, even a player, it has its time and place….but not the football field, come on man!!!! bLEM!!! Ok maybe we can set a new trend and we someday will see Saban kissing his guys too.
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If we end the regular season 10-2 then it should be his job.
This shouldn't be the standard. Going 10-2 in the PAC-12 with a loss to Utah or Notre Dame doesn't say much that's just Hugs all over again. He'd have to show much more than a win versus WAZZU or beating Notre Dame or UCLA. Hugs could do that and did.
No, my self awareness is just fine
this is what prompted that response.
From Saturday Night
Don’t take this the wrong way, but after your last tirade, I don‘t really have much interest in discussing much with you. With all due respect
And then this
And then this
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BlemBlam said
I’m serious, why would I want to engage with you?
After our polite dialogue yesterday, I thought ok, I may have misjudged him.
But you continue to put words in my mouth, and just pull what you think I mean out of your,….whatever, and then launch into some wild tirade about white supremacy and other BS.
I’m just not up for it. It’s coma inducing
and then this
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But you are. Right now.
And then this
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Not for long
There is nothing wrong with my self awareness.
I didn’t believe you had the audacity to actually quote me after that, which is what prompted that response
ive also made repeated attempts in this thread to guide you back to football takes if you want me to interact with you.
Good day to you sir
Not what I’m saying. I’d rather have him kiss his QB on the cheek, in that wildly emotional and pivotal moment than every kid on the team coming off the bus.
I thought it was awesome, and the look on Dontes face after was great.
I don’t care about Clay and Toa. This ain’t the same thing IMO
I would personally like to see us break the cycle of interim to permanent head coaches. However, I guess it depends on a few things:
- How well does the team do the remainder of the season? I'm not saying a single loss should remove him from the discussion, but it's going to be a hard sell if he loses, especially if he loses big and repeatedly. However, this is entirely within his control.
- Who are the other candidates that would say yes? I would take LF, UM and a few proven others over Donte even if Donte wins out just because we've been stung by this before, but that's my personal opinion.
Everyone seems to think meyer is a sure winner. But looking at his qb development, who has he really developed since utah? And looking at his most recent playoff runs, he hasn’t scored a playoff point since his first year at tosu.
I think we all agree that Donte has the fire to be a HC, but not the experience per se. I'm hoping that when the new HC is picked, Donte is kept on the staff. I can appreciate his drive and excitement. No matter how it comes out, he has shown a lot of excitement.
Just a note about the ongoing discussion (if you call it) between a few posters. Years ago we went through this same thing, a few posters decided they didn't like each other and it became so derogatory that the board became a depository for personal attacks. I know Garry became aggravated and issued several notices. Remember this is a board to speak about the issues of USC football, not personal vendettas about who said what, and who lied about it.
If you don't agree with someone's perspective on a game, coaching, or other football related issues, please don't attack other poster's integrity. Post your own perspective and allow the discussion to progress on it's own.
Just a note about the ongoing discussion (if you call it) between a few posters. Years ago we went through this same thing, a few posters decided they didn't like each other and it became so derogatory that the board became a depository for personal attacks. I know Garry became aggravated and issued several notices. Remember this is a board to speak about the issues of USC football, not personal vendettas about who said what, and who lied about it.
If you don't agree with someone's perspective on a game, coaching, or other football related issues, please don't attack other poster's integrity. Post your own perspective and allow the discussion to progress on it's own.
I agree that Donte is out of the running. But your original argument implied that you can't be a good head coach if you have never been a coordinator. Now you say that Cristobal is a good head coach because he is a great position coach. You cannot use the coordinator criteria to eliminate candidates. You just refuted your original argument.
