Draft Analyst Givony drops Aaron Harrison out of His top 100

[akaukswoosh]

Good discussion about all of UK's prospects.

http://www.kentucky.com/2015/03/10/3738402_draftexpress-analyst-breaks-down.html?rh=1



DraftExpress no longer considers Aaron Harrison to be among the Top 100 prospects eligible for the NBA Draft.

What can he do to raise his stock?

"Make some shots," Givony said, matter-of-factly. "As a guy who is not very athletic and is not going to be able to create his own shot in the NBA — I mean, he's shooting 29 percent from three. So what are you going to do to get on the court in the NBA? That's the question right now."


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This post was edited on 3/10 8:01 PM by Smashcat

 

[bigbluelou]

Ouch. He's been much less consistent this year, granted, but I still say there's a spot on a roster somewhere for him. He's tough as nails and has shown he can score.

 

[5iveStarRecruit]

Yeah, his stock has hit an all time low.

We all expected his shot to come around, but it never has. Theres still time, and he was actually in a similar situation last season, but its not looking good at all.

 

[CatOfDaVille]

Aaron and Andrew are much more athletic than they're given credit for. Someone who is unathletic does not make the one-handed alley oop slam that Aaron made a few games ago.
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[reignof cats]

The twins can come back to UK next year and let the haters really hate. GBB

 

[UKWildcats#8]

I agree with the NBA guy...hit open 3's.

He has been attacking the basket more lately and has shot well the past 6 games overall other than one game I think. I'd have to look at the stats. I'm not sure why he is shooting so poorly from 3...I don't expect super great, but if his bro can shoot 36% one would think Aaron could. And no one considers Andrew the shooter of the 2.

 

[Jkwo_rivals113955]

Unathletic? Seriously? Some people just don't watch.

 

[Seth C]

Originally posted by Jkwo:
Unathletic? Seriously? Some people just don't watch.

Nah, they are watching. The twins are good athletes at the NCAA Division 1 level, but they aren't great and certainly aren't elite athletes at this level. That translates to average athletes at the NBA level, which is fine...if you have some other skill that stands out. Tall isn't enough. Tall sharpshooter, average athlete? That could get you up the draft boards.

 

[KA4Prez_rivals78700]

Summary - Nothing new on Towns (#2), WCS (#7), Booker (#15) and Lyles (#25). Dakari still at #38 is somewhat surprising. No mention at all of Marcus Lee or Tyler Ulis, basically assuming they return. Andrew Harrison (#51) and Aaron Harrison (undrafted) are falling, citing a lack of "offensive production", especially Aaron's lack of shooting (we can probably all see this). States he believes the signing of Briscoe and pursuit of Newman (along with Ulis back) hints that the Twins are still gone.

Pretty much what we could predict, although I still think Lee has about as much NBA upside as Dakari, although their weaknesses are completely different. As for the Twins, I think we're starting to see a William Buford, Scottie Reynolds, etc...type career path for them. Their stock may never get higher than it was with that #1 overall/5-star by their names out of HS. That's the downfall of college ball, and the benefit to UK. Guys who get put under a microscope and their games just not a fit for the NBA model. If they are smart, this could mean 3-4 year guys and some insanely successful teams for Kentucky.

 

[throatpoker]

 

[5iveStarRecruit]

Originally posted by Jkwo:
Unathletic? Seriously? Some people just don't watch.

He said not very athletic, which is true.

That alley-oop dunk recently was cool, but lets not forget the countless there dunks he's whiffed on. He just lacks explosion.

 

[KA4Prez_rivals78700]

Big fans, but both Harrison twins are average athletes in every sense of the word when compared to wings in the NBA. They just are. That isn't a knock on them as they are probably good/very good athletes for the college game.

Very similar to John Jenkins from Vandy, but he wasn't 6'6 and he had one elite skill (shooting). He was certainly athletic enough to earn All-American level awards and wasn't exposed athletically in college, but he's nothing but a spot shooter in the NBA.

 

[caneintally]

Originally posted by throatpoker:

Yep sooo unathletic LOL. Whiffed on dunks ? wtf are talking about ? he isn't an ultra athlete like WCS or Wiggins but he is better then most guards in college. People just judge top 10 talents like the twins at a different level. I promise you if the twins had been 3 stars outta high school they would be first round locks right now. But they will leave after this year and both will be drafted ( andrew in the top 35 and Aaron in the top 50 ) and both will play for 5-10 years .

 

[fisherscat]

If true you do wonder what guys will think about coming back in the future. There's a great likelihood that Andrew, Aaron, and Dakari all would have been drafted higher if they came out last year.

This post was edited on 3/10 8:35 PM by FishersBlue

 

[nssdigitalchumps]

 

[Askeladden]

Last season Aaron could explode for over 20 points in any given game. I think his career high was 28 midway through last season and we all know what he did in the tournament. Aaron, like any player, can exponentially raise his stock in the next 5 weeks. That what the tournament can do for a guy.

To me, what he went away from this season that he was sooooo good at last year wasn't his perimeter shot but it was his mid-range game. Sure it's easy to remember him being a great 3 point shooter because of his clutch shots he made, but he excelled more on his mid-range game. A lot like Trey Lyles has done exceeding well at this season.

Aaron is a good defender and he needs to shoot more. He has a tendency to be in shooting slumps but would shoot his way out of it. Remember in the Michigan game he missed all his shots and hit 4 threes including the game winner in the last 6 minutes of the game. Back then he easily shot his way out of it because there weren't many other options on the bench like we have this year.

The postseason looks promising for Aaron. Just wait and see.

EDIT to add: I tend to think that Aaron feels like he MUST shoot the left-wing 3 because that what everyone knows him for. He needs to let the game come to him and put last seasons heroics behind him - tough as it may be...... jmo




This post was edited on 3/10 8:45 PM by Askeladden

 

[5iveStarRecruit]

Originally posted by caneintally:

Originally posted by throatpoker:

Yep sooo unathletic LOL. Whiffed on dunks ? wtf are talking about ? he isn't an ultra athlete like WCS or Wiggins but he is better then most guards in college. People just judge top 10 talents like the twins at a different level. I promise you if the twins had been 3 stars outta high school they would be first round locks right now. But they will leave after this year and both will be drafted ( andrew in the top 35 and Aaron in the top 50 ) and both will play for 5-10 years .

Before i thought you were a big homer and didn't really believe what you post, but now its obvious you literally have zero clue about anything you talk about. Quiet funny actually.

He's had moments this season when he attempts to dunk when challenged, and blows the dunk. Anybody who watches the games can confirm this.

He just is average in every area of athleticism. Not overly quick, fast and leaping ability is average. Theres so many more athletic guards in the country, your statement can't be taken serious.

Why would their recruiting stars matter in their draft stock??? It wouldn't change his bad efficiency and mediocre athleticism.

 

[CatPhight_rivals65113]

Rumor I heard Saturday is Mom and Dad are not only cool with Aaron and Andrew coming back, they prefer they come back and work toward their degrees, presumably thru their Junior season. Same source doesn't offer a whole lot of info, but told me Wiltjer was not coming back several weeks before he bolted.

Hoping it is true - would LOVE to see the twins back next year.

 

[catfaninsc_rivals377375]

Some GM's might beg to differ with that opinion.

 

[KentuckyWildcat4Life]

I expect them both to turn on in the tournament and put all these hater comments to rest.
Would love to see them return and I do remember them saying they were playing at Kentucky for four years.

 

[Rem08]

Originally posted by CatPhight:
Rumor I heard Saturday is Mom and Dad are not only cool with Aaron and Andrew coming back, they prefer they come back and work toward their degrees, presumably thru their Junior season. Same source doesn't offer a whole lot of info, but told me Wiltjer was not coming back several weeks before he bolted.

Hoping it is true - would LOVE to see the twins back next year.

Hoping this is true also.


Those laughing at the thought that Aaron isn't super athletic are thinking that the alternative must mean he's Kyle Wiltjer. He's neither. More athletic than some give him credit for - sure, and he's improved his game in a variety of ways since last year. He does a lot of things very well at the college level but the thing he'll be sought after most in the NBA looks pretty average so far.

 

[fatguy87]

Aaron doesn't have the explosive athleticism that would compensate for poor shooting in assessing his draft viability.

Based on production, both him and Andrew don't look the part of NBA players. Andrew has been much better during conference play, but he still isn't dominating opponents like you'd expect from a potential pro.

 

[4UK]

Originally posted by CatPhight:
Rumor I heard Saturday is Mom and Dad are not only cool with Aaron and Andrew coming back, they prefer they come back and work toward their degrees, presumably thru their Junior season. Same source doesn't offer a whole lot of info, but told me Wiltjer was not coming back several weeks before he bolted.

Hoping it is true - would LOVE to see the twins back next year.

This would be great news. The twins are better than any guard entering college basketball next year and their return would instantly make us one of the favorites again.

 

[UKWildcatT]

Look I love all the boys in blue and will defend them within an inch of my life, but if he was playing for any other team, we'd be saying the same thing as this scout to be perfectly honest.

And yes, he's blown several dunk attempts like Seth stated.

 

[KWilt43atbuzz]

They gone

 

[KyCatFan1]

If they come back we will have to go with a three guard lineup. There will be to many guards to just platoon. That is if we don't lose any other guard. Maybe have Ulis and the twins in one rotation with Briscoe, Matthews, and Booker in the other. Everyone would go from talking about the biggest team to the most loaded team at guard.
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[Burly]

Both kids are good College players. Andrew actually is the better shooter now. Andrew plays smart and doesn't turn the ball over. I love both kids demeanor at winning time.

Aarons poor shooting percentages have killed his draft stock. Andrews inability to finish at the rim or in transition against any type of challenge has to make the scouts cringe.

I thought these evaluations of all of our players were spot on.

 

[5iveStarRecruit]

Originally posted by UKWildcatT:
Look I love all the boys in blue and will defend them within an inch of my life, but if he was playing for any other team, we'd be saying the same thing as this scout to be perfectly honest.

And yes, he's blown several dunk attempts like 5star stated.

Fixed.

 

[jrm693]

I thought Andrew had played really well down the stretch, his on court coolness I thought was a key in the come from behind win at Georgia and he has been scoring at a pretty good clip. Aaron needs to regain his shooting eye soon.

 

[SilentsAreGolden]

What I've noticed about Aaron when going up for dunks, he often misjudges the distance and jumps too soon. He's also fairly slow, letting guys catch up to him on fast breaks.

 

[5iveStarRecruit]

So basically what we learned today is that Caneintally doesn't watch the games.

Why am i not surprised.

 

[BoulderCat_rivals187983]

Both Aaron and Andrew are probably examples of guy's who would have been better off, at least in terms of getting an initial contract, if they could have gone straight to the NBA. That's exactly why I think the NBA has no interest in changing that other than upping it a year. I still think both will get a shot in the NBA, but it seems more likely they'll end up overseas making a lot more money than the average American 20 something. In in fact their skills don't translate to the NBA well it's where they would have ended up anyway. I do wonder though sometimes if some of these "experts" aren't looking at numbers more than anything. We all know none of the guys on this year's team are putting up big numbers for obvious reasons. In my mind both still show flashes of great potential.

 

[UKWildcatT]

Originally posted by 5iveStarRecruit:

Originally posted by UKWildcatT:
Look I love all the boys in blue and will defend them within an inch of my life, but if he was playing for any other team, we'd be saying the same thing as this scout to be perfectly honest.

And yes, he's blown several dunk attempts like 5star stated.

Fixed.

Ha. Yeah I saw you post it first...it was more to back ya up.

 

[Waterview Catfan]

If the NBA is their ultimate dream, I hope it happens at some point for them both. If it doesn't happen, there is absolutely nothing wrong with being great college players on the best college team in the country. We are lucky to have had them for at least 2 years, and would be even luckier to have them a 3rd.

 

[sosoblue]

Originally posted by Smashcat:

Good discussion about all of UK's prospects.

http://www.kentucky.com/2015/03/10/3738402_draftexpress-analyst-breaks-down.html?rh=1



DraftExpress no longer considers Aaron Harrison to be among the Top 100 prospects eligible for the NBA Draft.

What can he do to raise his stock?

"Make some shots," Givony said, matter-of-factly. "As a guy who is not very athletic and is not going to be able to create his own shot in the NBA - I mean, he's shooting 29 percent from three. So what are you going to do to get on the court in the NBA? That's the question right now."


Read more here: http://www.kentucky.com/2015/03/10/3738402_draftexpress-analyst-breaks-down.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy
This post was edited on 3/10 8:01 PM by Smashcat

Thanks for sharing Smashcat. I thought the analyst was spot on in his assessment.

 

[Ugoff]

The good news is they are at the best program in college BB to improve their skills. They have what they need, and are getting an education to boot. It wouldn't be the end of the world if one or both spent 4 years at UK and then moved on to the next level.

 

[.S&C.]

If Andrew and Aaron return to Kentucky and lead us to back to back, they will be the most decorated guards in the modern history of this program. heres to hoping the rumor about them wanting their degrees is legit. This could be a rare occasion where it's best for all parties to stay put. I'd rather have a degree and a shot at free agency than no degree and 2nd round cut. This is something that isn't talked about nearly enough.

 

[MO_Blue]

Originally posted by .S&C.:
If Andrew and Aaron return to Kentucky ............

Then I'd be a real happy camper. That thought was not even possible 6 months ago, or at least it did not seem so to me.

 

[Cats192]

It'll be interesting to see what the tourney does for his stock. He's shown he can get hot in the past. Does a hot stretch in the tourney put him back in the draft?

Do they go if they're both 2nd rounders?

I'd LOVE it if they came back for a 3rd year to work on their games.

 

[loublue22_rivals308424]

I'm not sure why Aaron can't be more consistent from 3, his form and rotation are perfect. IF they come back he should shoot 500 threes a day over the summer and try to make 40+%. Andrew's jumper is a little wonky, but his midrange is very nice. He should showcase that aspect, maintain his assist/to ratio and focus on getting to the basket and finishing, I think he was actually a little better at that last year. They could do these things and improve to late first/early second round picks next year, they still have the size you want.