Driving in Kentucky (Lexington)
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If you're going 5 or 10 over in the left lane to pass someone on the right, then yes, we are in agreement.
If you're camping out in the left doing that then no, you are in the wrong. Sorry. It is in fact against the law in many states to do it. Whether the person behind you is simply being an ***, is running late, or whatever isn't germane. Lmao at the temerity of justifying being a ****** and rude driver because "I may or may not agree with why the person behind me is trying to get around me."You don't have a right to just sit in the left lane, even if you're traveling over the speed limit. Sorry, you're simply wrong about that.
Hopefully this diagram will help clarify it for you and others of your selfish ilk:
And to finish I'm not one of those drivers. But if I see someone behind me and I can get out of of the way, I do, because I'm not an oblivious and selfish jackass.
-the first sentence(paragraph) of my post addresses your qualms. You just spent a lot of time typing that out...and we are in general agreement.
-while I hate people who camp in the left lane (read: not passing) as much as the next guy...that ain't what causes accidents. Disparity of speed causes accidents. That is why there is a maximum *and* a minimum speed on the interstate and roads like NC.
-if you like driving fast for the sake of it...buy a sports car and a trailer and head to mid Ohio track. It's fun, highly recommend. There are also places that allow you to lease supercars and drive them fast on a track. Public thoroughfares ain't a playground.
-kudos for the "near-correct" use of the word temerity.
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And why do speeding laws exist? He already said that he is going 5-10 miles over the speed limit and passing cars that are in the right lane. If you are going so fast that someone driving 10 miles over the speed limit is slowing you down, you are much more dangerous.
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23. How old are you and why is it relevant? Being young doesn't justify being a jackass.
-there it is. While it's a predictable attempt at humor it raises a topic:
-in drivers there are varying degrees of experience/ability/sobriety/focus and such. No way around it. So while you think you are able to drive aggressively in a safe manner...you still are surrounded by folks at varying levels of ability. You're only as safe as everyone around you. Your margin of error shrinks the faster you drive, and that's just on your end...throw in unpredictability of other drivers/ road conditions. It's an unnecessary risk that places you and others in a potentially deadly situation. It's silly.
-in drivers there are varying degrees of experience/ability/sobriety/focus and such. No way around it. So while you think you are able to drive aggressively in a safe manner...you still are surrounded by folks at varying levels of ability. You're only as safe as everyone around you. Your margin of error shrinks the faster you drive, and that's just on your end...throw in unpredictability of other drivers/ road conditions. It's an unnecessary risk that places you and others in a potentially deadly situation. It's silly.
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Generally older drivers drive slow as they don’t have the reflexes/eyesight/capability to handle driving faster. Your mindset matches.
And I agree with @rudd1 that we’re surrounded by drivers of varying ability while on the road, we just have different views of what driving aggressively is. Driving 65-70 on New Circle is not driving aggressively. Hell on the interstate, most of the time 85-90 is still very safe(depending on the traffic, etc… ).
I’m relatively young(31), and respectably a fantastic driver. If everyone was of a similar capability, our speed limits would be 15mph higher across the board, but alas they’re not and we have to cater towards Edna and Gene who realistically shouldn’t be allowed to drive at all anymore.
- Yeah, sorry, I'm a millennial. We use swipe on our keyboards. That took less than 2 minutes. Hunt and peck is for old folks. Glad we are in agreement. I take umbrage with people camping out in the left lane. It sounded like you were arguing for that. I misinterpreted your intent. Such is the interwebs. We good.
- Yes and no. All depends on situation. I know what you mean about the guys doing Smokey and the Bandit on I75 at 95mph, I believe most traffic statistics show, however, that people clogging the passing lanes by going at or under the speed limit, causing bottlenecks and a lot of tap braking, are actually the greatest contributing factor. I'd wager that in tandem with people on their phone in rush hour simultaneously are the sum lead cause.
- I don't drive fast for the sake of it. I'm not 5-10 mph over guy. It sounds like we're about the same. I may have been known to be a bit bolder late at night on New Circle when it isn't busy, but I generally skirt the edge of the speed limit and that's it.
- my usage of "temerity" was both correct and flawless. We could substitute 'unmitigated audacity" if that floats your boat.
So what do you do when you see George Jones and Wille Nelson on their smart phones carpooling?
It's also worth noting that not everyone's definition of "camping out in the left lane" is the same.
For example, on New Circle. Alumni, Tates Creek, Nicholasville exits all come fairly quick. There are times when you in the right lane approaching the Alumni merge lane.......you get over like you should do......then have to remain in the left lane because the traffic is too heavy or you have to pass the stream of cars merging from Alumni.........now you're stuck in the left lane when Tates Creek is comes around.......and you don't want to risk crushing back into the right lane when there's another merge coming on.
I see this above quite often. I understand it and remain calm. Even if it means that I can't go as fast as I would like to......I remain patient.
For example, on New Circle. Alumni, Tates Creek, Nicholasville exits all come fairly quick. There are times when you in the right lane approaching the Alumni merge lane.......you get over like you should do......then have to remain in the left lane because the traffic is too heavy or you have to pass the stream of cars merging from Alumni.........now you're stuck in the left lane when Tates Creek is comes around.......and you don't want to risk crushing back into the right lane when there's another merge coming on.
I see this above quite often. I understand it and remain calm. Even if it means that I can't go as fast as I would like to......I remain patient.
No matter the situation, everyone driving faster than me is going too fast and everyone driving slower than me is going too slow.
Nothing beats a good Helen Keller joke.
Why did Helen Keller's dog kill himself?
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I guess I fit the "old" description lol : if I live to October I'll be 59.
I can't stand slow drivers who refuse to move over, or speed up just a damn little. I myself am not a super fast driver, but on the interstate if you're in the far left lane your *** should be going no less than 80-85, and that's about my max as well even if traffic is light. When I see others coming up behind me, even if I'm going 85, I get over and let 'em have it.
One thing I'll never get is why some people stop 1-3, or even 4 car lengths from the car in front of them at stop lights. Why? It serves no purpose that I'm aware of, and it obviously backs up the traffic in that lane to a degree. It's worse when it's a left turn lane with a short light to begin with.
My ex brother in law is one of the nicest, most laid back down to earth people you'd ever care to meet..........and his personality is reflected in the speed of his driving, or the lack thereof. He lives in the small Madison county community of Waco, and many have been the times, when I lived @ a mile from him, that all of a sudden the traffic on Irvine road going out of Richmond is at a virtual crawl. Nearly every time it's him at the head of the column of cars, driving one of his older model pick ups; TOTALLY oblivious to the rank of angry and irritated people wanting to get home.
It's not that he doesn't care, he's a good, caring moral guy, as much as any one of us can be I suppose. It just doesn't register on his radar. He drives @ 35-40 on this particular road, and the limit, while never really followed much anyway, is 55. (They've since widened this road, probably because of him)
I can't stand slow drivers who refuse to move over, or speed up just a damn little. I myself am not a super fast driver, but on the interstate if you're in the far left lane your *** should be going no less than 80-85, and that's about my max as well even if traffic is light. When I see others coming up behind me, even if I'm going 85, I get over and let 'em have it.
One thing I'll never get is why some people stop 1-3, or even 4 car lengths from the car in front of them at stop lights. Why? It serves no purpose that I'm aware of, and it obviously backs up the traffic in that lane to a degree. It's worse when it's a left turn lane with a short light to begin with.
My ex brother in law is one of the nicest, most laid back down to earth people you'd ever care to meet..........and his personality is reflected in the speed of his driving, or the lack thereof. He lives in the small Madison county community of Waco, and many have been the times, when I lived @ a mile from him, that all of a sudden the traffic on Irvine road going out of Richmond is at a virtual crawl. Nearly every time it's him at the head of the column of cars, driving one of his older model pick ups; TOTALLY oblivious to the rank of angry and irritated people wanting to get home.
It's not that he doesn't care, he's a good, caring moral guy, as much as any one of us can be I suppose. It just doesn't register on his radar. He drives @ 35-40 on this particular road, and the limit, while never really followed much anyway, is 55. (They've since widened this road, probably because of him)
Yep. We get them by the shitloads here near Dale Hollow Lake. Think they own the place before they get here. Arrogant, self centered sob’s. And that’s putting it nicely.Greatest Lexington driving hazard between Memorial Day weekend and Labor Day weekend is located out on I-75. It's known as the dreaded (drumroll please):
The Ohio navy is a name given to Ohioans who go boating in Kentucky.
These reckless swine invade from the north. They care about nothing except for their boats.
Proceed with caution. Good luck.
If you really are driving for the fun and speed of it, why the hell are you driving on New Circle?
I wonder what would happen if they just straight up closed New Circle from Leestown to Richmond Road for about two months and just made it three lanes all the way around the fast part. Could we all survive? Going North on NC right past Versailles Road (three lanes to Leestown) is actually pretty nice.
I wonder what would happen if they just straight up closed New Circle from Leestown to Richmond Road for about two months and just made it three lanes all the way around the fast part. Could we all survive? Going North on NC right past Versailles Road (three lanes to Leestown) is actually pretty nice.
Speeding laws exist for a number of reasons, some of which have nothing to do with safety. The national 55 mph limit on interstates was passed to cut fuel consumption after the oil crisis of the 1970s.
In terms of the relationship between speed and safety on interstates, that has been extensively studied since the 1950s. Which means there’s significant evidence that shows faster drivers are less likely to be involved in an accident than slower drivers on limited access highways.
In the case you outlined above, if he’s going 10mph over a 65 mph speed limit, the average speed of traffic is 65mph and I’m going 13mph over, then he is both holding me up and statistically more likely to have an accident than me.
If I were doing 20 mph over the average speed of traffic and he was doing about 5 mph over, then we have about the exact same likelihood of being in an accident.
Point being, unless you’re actively passing or there is heavy traffic, don’t drive in the left lane. Even if a person behind them is doing 20 mph over, the person camped in the left lane is a far bigger nuisance and much more likely to cause an accident.
Man O’War traffic lights piss me off worse than anything. It’s hard to go 2-3 lights without stopping.
Usually traffic engineers will try to synchronize the lights so that you get what they call a “green wave”, and you can roll through a bunch of lights without stopping as long as you’re going whatever speed they want on the road.
I’m with you though. Don’t seem to ever remember being able to hit a string of green lights whenever I’ve been in Lexington. Not sure why. Maybe the layout of the roads just isn’t an efficient design?
Yeah, it’s like they try to hold you up. The funny thing is that most of the time if you can get up to around 55 or maybe even a little faster you can get through some of the lights.
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So if we are talking safety, according to the chart, we should all be driving 35 mph slower than the average speed. Thanks.Speeding laws exist for a number of reasons, some of which have nothing to do with safety. The national 55 mph limit on interstates was passed to cut fuel consumption after the oil crisis of the 1970s.
In terms of the relationship between speed and safety on interstates, that has been extensively studied since the 1950s. Which means there’s significant evidence that shows faster drivers are less likely to be involved in an accident than slower drivers on limited access highways.
In the case you outlined above, if he’s going 10mph over a 65 mph speed limit, the average speed of traffic is 65mph and I’m going 13mph over, then he is both holding me up and statistically more likely to have an accident than me.
If I were doing 20 mph over the average speed of traffic and he was doing about 5 mph over, then we have about the exact same likelihood of being in an accident.
Point being, unless you’re actively passing or there is heavy traffic, don’t drive in the left lane. Even if a person behind them is doing 20 mph over, the person camped in the left lane is a far bigger nuisance and much more likely to cause an accident.
OP... ya ever been to Ohio?
It makes your traffic complaints look like single A ball.
Next time you drive I-75 south from Cincy towards Lex/Knox/Atl/Tampa... count the time you have to turn off cruise control because an Ohio plated car is clogging up the left lane.
It makes your traffic complaints look like single A ball.
Next time you drive I-75 south from Cincy towards Lex/Knox/Atl/Tampa... count the time you have to turn off cruise control because an Ohio plated car is clogging up the left lane.
The one that gets me the most are the idiots (primarily on Nicholasville Road but it happens other places too) that go through a light that is turning red even though traffic is already backed up so they are now blocking the traffic coming from the other direction from being able to turn or get on the road. It is really bad at the light on Nicholasville/W. Reynolds. It has also gotten pretty bad on the off ramp of NC turning onto Alumni.
I want to punch people who do that in the face. They aren't doing anything to decrease their drive time but are causing massive back ups the other way which hurts all traffic.
I want to punch people who do that in the face. They aren't doing anything to decrease their drive time but are causing massive back ups the other way which hurts all traffic.
If your definition of safety is having the highest number of accidents, then sure, you can drive 35 mph slower than traffic.
A better solution might be to pay closer attentions to charts so that you can actually understand them correctly.
But that chart is from 1968. 35 mph in 1968 is worth what..63 mph today? Looks like YOU need to learn the Time Value of Speed!!!
I lived in Lex from 96 -01 and I can say that most things on the poll, like left lane campers, are endemic to the entire country. Especially the cell phone thing.
I voted for blowing red lights and poorly synced lights. One of the first things I learned when I moved there was to not stop on yellow or face the very real possibility of being rear ended. Also, any trip around Man O'War was going to be a stop and go affair. Then one day I learned about these things called shortcuts and navigation became way easier.
OP should add out of town drivers to the list. They seem to cause the most amount of trouble because they don't know the rules of the roads and they have no idea how to get anywhere.
Last thing. The roads themselves seem to be poorly designed and in desperate need of an upgrade. Seemed like every time it rained hard Harrodsburg rd. would flood. Many other roads in the city were the same.
And just screw Nicholasville rd. That is all.
I voted for blowing red lights and poorly synced lights. One of the first things I learned when I moved there was to not stop on yellow or face the very real possibility of being rear ended. Also, any trip around Man O'War was going to be a stop and go affair. Then one day I learned about these things called shortcuts and navigation became way easier.
OP should add out of town drivers to the list. They seem to cause the most amount of trouble because they don't know the rules of the roads and they have no idea how to get anywhere.
Last thing. The roads themselves seem to be poorly designed and in desperate need of an upgrade. Seemed like every time it rained hard Harrodsburg rd. would flood. Many other roads in the city were the same.
And just screw Nicholasville rd. That is all.
Ha! Yeah, didn’t think about that. So what interest rate should I apply for the adjustment?