Duke is now investigating whether Zion's mother was paid by Nike. I think it is a little late they should have done this before the season. I guess they thought since UNC got away with what they did they would take their chances and see if they would get away with it. Maybe they know that the FBI is getting ready to announce that Duke is under investigation. They just want to look like a victim.
Duke University investigating Zion & Nike
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When Zion reportedly turned down $100k to go to Kansas, it might’ve been a clue that not all was kosher. Of course, it’s Duke...
Avenatti is now on record saying Nike is involved in over 200 different cases of impermissible benefits to recruits, and says he has evidence. I’m just glad for all the the uk fans that are on this site that cal’s kids havent been involved in this mess.......bahahahaha
I guess he turned down Kentucky’s offer since Cal did not think he worth the extra $dollars?.
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Duke Investigators: No wrong doing found. Nothing to see here.
NCAA: You sure? What about...
Duke: Nothing. To. See. Here.
NCAA: You're absolutely right. Sorry for the inconvenience. Carry on.
NCAA: You sure? What about...
Duke: Nothing. To. See. Here.
NCAA: You're absolutely right. Sorry for the inconvenience. Carry on.
I just want the truth to come out on all of this. And not because I’m wanting revenge because UofL got caught in it.
It’s time for all of it to blow. Avenatti was in the sewer and may know some stuff but there are others that need to squeal.
It’s time for all of it to blow. Avenatti was in the sewer and may know some stuff but there are others that need to squeal.
I swear I hope every bit of this story is 100% true.I hate the good ol' boy/blue blood network that runs NCAA basketball.The UNC,Dukes, and the UKs of the world.Only a fool thinks that Nike and the schools it outfits are clean.If this story is true IMO it could be just as bad for Coach K as the Sandusky scandal was for Joe Pa and Penn St.Like it may explain why Zion came back instead of sitting out the Tournament.One could speculate that if he was taking money from Duke and Nike that they would have wanted him to live up to his end of the deal by trying to win a championship for Duke and thus giving Nike exposure all the way up to the championship game.Let the flood gates swing wide open and all the dirt come out.
This scandal has uncovered a simple fact Nike and to a lesser extent shoe companies had too much control in college basketball. They controlled where the elite players went to school. This has always been the case once Nike got into the game, but no cared how they were doing it. This scandal shows how Nike, thanks to Adidas, was doing it.
It really has a mob infrastructure with the Nike being the Godfather, schools/coaches being the business owners needing protection, the NCAA being the police/politicians and the media on the take. They all received money from Nike which kept everyone in line.
Now that the curtain has been pulled back the NCAA will have to do something, but when all your member institutions are on the take I am not sure what really can be done. Bilas is correct no one cares and historically not cared about these kind of scandals because it isn't a social issue. Family and kids getting money that need it. Flip the face of the scandal from Bowen to Zion I think the reaction would have been much different.
It really has a mob infrastructure with the Nike being the Godfather, schools/coaches being the business owners needing protection, the NCAA being the police/politicians and the media on the take. They all received money from Nike which kept everyone in line.
Now that the curtain has been pulled back the NCAA will have to do something, but when all your member institutions are on the take I am not sure what really can be done. Bilas is correct no one cares and historically not cared about these kind of scandals because it isn't a social issue. Family and kids getting money that need it. Flip the face of the scandal from Bowen to Zion I think the reaction would have been much different.
WTH maybe some of this stuff actually involves the NCAA and some folks there for covering up for some of the so called blue bloods (i.e. UNC, Duke, Kansas and even the cayuts). I hope this crook has the goods. I’d still like to know who was on the committee that punished UofL so severely and their school biases.
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This NCAA is complicit.
They ignored the gifts to Corey Maggette.
They now ignore Alabama football recruiting.
They ignored the 200k to anthony davis
Dont get me started on the UNC academic fraud.
No way they do anything to Duke and SuCkS.
I think they will have to do something to Duke. Obviously there is evidence on them and Oregon and UNLV. But as far as him having evidence on 200 other players, I don’t believe that at all. If he had evidence on other schools and players he would’ve showed his hand a bit by now. That and the fact that the AAU coach he is getting info from really wasn’t involved with a ton of top recruits.
Morale to the story is UK and Cal has been dealing with WWW and he seems to keep things very low key. Which isn’t hard, don’t text people, have face to face meetings, never leave a paper trail. You can’t screenshot a voice call or face to face meeting.
The corruption is through the roof but it's been known for ages. Will there ever be a true change? it seems unlikely. The NCAA went out of their way to humiliate themselves with UNC, so it is obvious they cherry pick rule enforcement. Selective oversight ain't gonna impress the masses.
The NCAA's way home is not that complicated even if many big time schools are involved. You do NOT kill the golden goose by levying postseason bans that do nothing but harm innocent parties.
You vacate records and postseason trophies, impose huge fines, and put coaches on probation.
And you streamline your investigative process so this doesn't take a decade to adjudicate it. If the evidence is there, you request the school to respond in a reasonable time frame, and act if they don't...
You vacate records and postseason trophies, impose huge fines, and put coaches on probation.
And you streamline your investigative process so this doesn't take a decade to adjudicate it. If the evidence is there, you request the school to respond in a reasonable time frame, and act if they don't...
I remember watching the 30 for 30 about how SMU got the "death penalty" for cheating in college football. Back then it's "boosters" that we're paying the players and buying their parents , houses and cars. After that was unearthed IMO everything went more underground with shoe companies funneling players to certain schools. This may reach back into college football at some point and then things will begin to get real interesting, for the Nike schools there.
True, but I things are about to get interesting with Nike schools anyway.
You tell me. Are you assuming Avenatti is just making all this stuff up? If he’s right by throwing out the number 200+ recruits that received benefits from nike, i think it’s a safe assumption to say some of Slimy Cal’s kids are involved. Hell, we all know (at least according to the reputable chicago sun times and its 3 sources from 3 different major universities) Anthony Davis got paid 6 figures to attend uk. Uk has a history of breaking ncaa rules, the last 2 schools slimy cal coached at went on probation after he left, Nike’s name has long been thrown around with having their nose too deep into the world of college basketball regarding where the major recruits end up.
Either add it all up man, or keep your head buried in the sand.
These type of schemes eventually get expose. There are just too many people involved and at some point somebody talks. Then another scheme will be created. Nature of the beast when there is a bunch of money, too many rules and not enough enforcement.
Zion split shoe incidence caused a $1 BILLION drop in Nike stock...any one telling you that shoe company dealings in college athletics is not that important to either the NCAA or shoe companies is full of sh*t!
If this is found to be true the NCAA will be so incensed they will add two years to a post season ban on Louisville.
Fredburg is recycling an old Bobby Knight quote to fit the modern era regarding the NCAA's reluctance to go after the sacred cows of the sport and the situation at the time.
They coach that recruited Zion was known to be shady to begin with, now he is Pitts problem and Duke will wash this under the table.
And his parents were offered a house and a job. I have said this all year - no way did Zion just walk away from all of that just for the honor of 6 months of a Duke education.
Right.... only a couple things get on Sandusky level and paying players is not one of those!
LOL - if found true, the entire Athletic Department at Cleveland State may be lined up and put to death by firing squad.
I typed that post after work at a double shift, so I worded it wrong. I know that nothing and I mean nothing equates to child molestation but I was meaning it along the lines of tarnishing Coach K's legacy. Remember in the movie Blue Chips how Nick Nolty was seen as this great coach would couldn't compete with the"big boys" anymore? So he decided to go the route of paying to get the five star players. Look back at Duke with all the first and second round flame outs, then all of a sudden they go the OND route ala UK and Cal.I know everyone will see this different, they couldn't wait to string up Pitino and to strip us of our title but will they try and give Coach K a pass?And make someone else fall on the sword for him or will this come back as lack of institutional control like with Pitino?
I agree with you about the Coach K's and Dukes reputation if this is true and more than likely than likely it is true. However it seems as though Duke is going to try and blame this on Nike and act as if they just found out about it. Let's all remember what Coach Cow said when Louisville got in trouble " the head coach always knows what is going on in his program ".
Did Cal really say that? I can't imagine he did, considering he claimed innocence in both situations where a Final Four was vacated at UMass and Memphis. If he did say that, then LOL, what balls.
If the scope of this is an big as we suspect by the money changing hands with far lesser players than Zion, the NCAA does not even remotely have the assets to properly investigate all of these claims. They will have to streamline the process and offer something attractive enough that the Universities will accept their punishment instead of forcing the NCAA to adjudicate the process to the full extent. The only risk for this is that Louisville becomes a sacrificial lamb since we were already on probation as a way to show the NCAA was hard on someone.
Yeah he said it, it was when he was asked about CRP and the stripper gate situation. He said that the head coach of every program knows everything that goes on. I thought at the time it was a funny thing for him to say that since he denied any knowledge of what happened at UMas and Memphis. That's how Cow rolls though it's called foot in mouth disease.
He said that if it occurs on campus, they know what is going on.
“All I can tell you is this: If it happens on your campus and it happens with your assistants and those people, you probably have a good idea of what’s going on,” Calipari said. “It happens back in their hometown, it happens back with their family … there’s no way you can know. You just can’t know. All I can say is most coaches have an idea if it happened on their campus. You might not be the first to know about it but you eventually hear about it.”
As close as Cow and World Wide Wes were I would think he would know Nike was paying players to go to sUcK.