Tyus Jones had a refuse to lose attitude - he was an anomaly as a FR...very Hurleyesque - this team hasnt got that fire - None of the freshman seem to realise EVERY team wants to beat Duke like its their Championship game so you have to bring your A game at both ends every night....maybe they do care - it just does not show up in their effort though.
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Tyus Jones had a refuse to lose attitude - he was an anomaly as a FR...very Hurleyesque - this team hasnt got that fire - None of the freshman seem to realise EVERY team wants to beat Duke like its their Championship game so you have to bring your A game at both ends every night....maybe they do care - it just does not show up in their effort though.
2015 team also had a PG that could drive and dish and take over scoring when needed and we don't have that this year. We needed Thornton this year bad
That team had Justise Winslow and he was a dog defensively...
This team has nobody like that...and also not coincidentally the only descent Duke team defensively in the last 6-7 years...
Here's what I think we have: Luke and Grayson are awesome. We have solid role players like Matt and Chase, but they aren't great starters. Amile is out again. Harry isn't the same guy he was pre-knee. Tatum is great but one-dimensional. Frank hasn't adjusted to the college game yet. Bolden isn't ready. Javin and Jack might be OK but have zero experience. K is laid up. Let's regroup and hope this loss helps us grow up. These high rated recruits will get tired of being outplayed soon enough. They want to win. K knows how to win.
NBA is scoring not defense so they will be judged on that and not their lack of rebounding and defensive toughness
Need Thornton?!? Did you watch him? Allen is doing just fine at point.. the worse thing that coulda happened was Thornton at point with all hog Tatum too
Tatum will get his money, but I sure as hell would never be the one to give it to him.
Because they don't teach it in AAU ball. It's offense offense offense
It's just not our year. Just bad luck with injuries and coach being out. They just aren't very good right now. Only player that's been playing well has been Kennard. Where would they be without him.
Sure wish we had Amile in the game and Tatum on the bench, I know I may eat crow for saying it, but this team would be better without him sometimes.
Can't see the game up here in NY. I've kept an eye on the scoreboard though and I think I'm glad I didn't have to watch. Based on what I've read above, sounds like the same old story.
1.) Horrible defense in every aspect
2.) No toughness, effort or physicality rebounding the ball.
3.) Bad decision making on the offensive and defensive end.
4.) Guys playing for the name on the back of their jersey instead of the one on the front.
5.) ala the above no cohesiveness or flow to our offense or defense.
You can't all you want about how this team looks on paper. The game is not played or won on paper, it's won on the court. The chemistry thing is becoming an old argument, they better have an epiphany and quick.....they are running out of time
1.) Horrible defense in every aspect
2.) No toughness, effort or physicality rebounding the ball.
3.) Bad decision making on the offensive and defensive end.
4.) Guys playing for the name on the back of their jersey instead of the one on the front.
5.) ala the above no cohesiveness or flow to our offense or defense.
You can't all you want about how this team looks on paper. The game is not played or won on paper, it's won on the court. The chemistry thing is becoming an old argument, they better have an epiphany and quick.....they are running out of time
What thing that's missing in all the complaining is one obvious caveat....Florida State is really good. Let's give them a little bit of credit too.
Miss the days of a proud Duke defense. This defensive effort pisses me the f*ck off.
VA Tech was the wake up call....this was the second test to see if the team "got it"...they have failed to learn from that game.
Instead of these wunderkind it would be interesting to see if we could get great athletic role players...maybe we have them but dont give them their due because scoring takes precedent...could White be a rebounding and defensive dervish? Or Jav? The make up of the team isnt cohesive so why not....at least they might give 100% on the defensive end
Instead of these wunderkind it would be interesting to see if we could get great athletic role players...maybe we have them but dont give them their due because scoring takes precedent...could White be a rebounding and defensive dervish? Or Jav? The make up of the team isnt cohesive so why not....at least they might give 100% on the defensive end
Duke would do so much better if they didn't slow down at 9 minutes or so left every game. I have noticed that in nearly every game this season. If they're not way ahead by around 9 minutes left, they'll lose and if they're not far enough ahead, it will be a nail biter at the end because of them stopping.
They are good really good but you can't overcome this D and tatums Austin rivers impression
You never saw Greg Newton then.
I thought dunking was the best part of Newton's game even if it was bad.
OFCYou're correct FSU deserves credit, they are good and always play beast mode at home against duke, but I want to see them do it against UNC, but then again this is one more lazy duke team.
We have lots of good players. They haven't reached their potential. Tatum is playing by himself for example.
True, but we're unfortunately at our weakest moment right now not having our head coach or senior captain either. So I guess it's good we kept it kinda close til the end.