That's not at all what I was saying. I never felt like they were going to be blown out. Just saying that had things gone differently for unc, it could have easily been a blow out for them. It was more of a glass half full perspective on my part, not a criticism of Duke. Obviously it could have also been a blow out for Duke.
***DUKE VS. UNC POST-GAME THREAD***
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UNC is good. There's no shame in saying that.
Pretty much agree. Our big three needs to be, for lack of a better term, big.
Nothing wrong with Jackson but if Grayson's healthy his energy rubs off to everyone. This team will only make a run if we have a healthy Allen. He is so electric, it brings everyone else's energy higher when he's good. Jones will lose minutes if Allen is healthy and Jackson continues playing solid, that's what will have to happen. Matt is important but to me not for 30+ minutes
I HATE to Roy it (not sure he's been in this spot) but we just can't go all out for the ACC! Sounds like K said as much
Does that mean that the dome is the ceiling or is the dome the roof or does he really mean that there will be more banners raised to the ceiling or does him mean they are going to be raised to the roof. Does the rafters have anything to do with the ceiling, roof or the dome. OFC
MJ fits in. But I'm not hanging my hat on a mis speak tonight! Duke neeeded a win, didn't happen. They win, We lose..... for the night
Go DUKE
Go DUKE
Sky, it's too cerebral for us Duke fans to understand. You need an AFAM degree, and a UNC diploma to understand the nuances of what MJ said.
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Completely agree, Grayson has to put points... would be nice if Matt could give us 6-8 points a game but he has completely lost confidence in his shot. 4 years in he is what he is, an above average defender and below average on the offensive end.
I'm understanding why the Hornets arent good.
No offense to Matt, but he's a role player. Glad he plays for Duke but too much of a liability on offense
I don't think that's breaking news.
Carolina traditionally plays that way. More and more teams today, don't. I'm not sure either way is right or wrong. It's philosophy. This game came down to the final minutes and Duke didn't execute. That's the real story here.
I actually thought Duke played it to their advantage, spread the floor and drove more. It created free throw opportunities and made us, in general, less dependent on shooting the long ball. That, despite the loss, encouraged me some.
Need little more ability to score down low. Amile shouldn't be our only option down low. Too many bigs on bench to have only one guy that can do anything down low. I realize Duke isn't an inside/out team, but not saying much when a 5th yr senior is our only viable option down low, when you have 2 5 star guys on bench. Maye and Bradley gave Holes good minutes, could that be that they get minutes every game and ours don't?
I can agree with you, it did open up the floor, looking back on the game Tatum was able to get a step on Hicks he just couldn't finish. I just wish we could get a combined 8-10 points and a couple rebounds from Giles/Bolden. I was very impressed with Jefferson, hopefully he can continue to play well for Duke.
My only argument with the lack of playing time with bench is too many years you need them when foul trouble mounts up. Nothing wrong with Ks philosophy of spreading floor. There is also the point that a few minutes with bench players thru the year will prepare them come tight game where fouls adding up. Roy plays a couple guys that probably wouldn't play for Duke. Maye is one, and he helps his team. Are we saying that Bolden is lazy, bad, or both? We know the situation with Giles, but come on, we are Duke and you're telling me all we can play is 6, maybe 7, and have only 1 guy that scored from low block?
This was a very winnable game. Cheater U made a few more plays than us down the stretch. Berry made some tough shots that I'm not sure he normally makes but it is what it is. Just a few observations and suggestions.
-Matt Jones should not play more than 20 minutes in my opinion. His defense is good but he's just not giving us anything on offense. Outside of a few steals he had no stats. Not sure that warrants 30+ minutes. Grayson needs to replace him in the lineup when healthy.
-Against big teams we need to play big lineups. Tonight we could've played big majority of the game. I refuse to believe Bolden or Chase couldn't give us 10 minutes tonight. Tatum is cool at the 4 when we play teams that don't play inside out. But against teams with traditional 4s we need to go big. I still don't know why the guards never fight through picks on defense. It's very puzzling to me.
-In the ACCT we need to get some run out of the big lineup. I think Tatum would be more effective at the 3 because of his ability to post up wing players. He would be more efficient. This is about to be big boy ball in the tournament. Small ball is good at times but I still say Tatum is not a combo forward. He's a wing player. Justise Winslow was a true tweener who was more comfortable than Tatum around the goal defensively. That's why it worked out so well with Justise.
-Luke Kennard is truly a shot maker. That dude is LEGIT. That's all I have to say about that dude.
-Winning 4 in four days shouldn't be hard with our talent and depth IF WE ACTUALLY USED IT
-Matt Jones should not play more than 20 minutes in my opinion. His defense is good but he's just not giving us anything on offense. Outside of a few steals he had no stats. Not sure that warrants 30+ minutes. Grayson needs to replace him in the lineup when healthy.
-Against big teams we need to play big lineups. Tonight we could've played big majority of the game. I refuse to believe Bolden or Chase couldn't give us 10 minutes tonight. Tatum is cool at the 4 when we play teams that don't play inside out. But against teams with traditional 4s we need to go big. I still don't know why the guards never fight through picks on defense. It's very puzzling to me.
-In the ACCT we need to get some run out of the big lineup. I think Tatum would be more effective at the 3 because of his ability to post up wing players. He would be more efficient. This is about to be big boy ball in the tournament. Small ball is good at times but I still say Tatum is not a combo forward. He's a wing player. Justise Winslow was a true tweener who was more comfortable than Tatum around the goal defensively. That's why it worked out so well with Justise.
-Luke Kennard is truly a shot maker. That dude is LEGIT. That's all I have to say about that dude.
-Winning 4 in four days shouldn't be hard with our talent and depth IF WE ACTUALLY USED IT
Our mods need to have this quote in italics under the Duke Hoops Open Forum. Just a classic line!!!
The celing is da roof, but Meeks and Maye are on da floor.
It's hard to win against the Tarheels, especially at home, when Joel Berry has a monster game turning the ceiling into the roof like that.
Its a direct correlation to the importance of higher education for athletes at UNC.All the board of trustees, administrative folks, lawyers, PR team members, etc swallowed hard and shook their heads...All their efforts to polish the turd of academic embarrassment over the last 7 years went up in smoke on national tv....
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And over 20,000 people gave him a standing ovation for it. If that doesn't sew it up nothing will. OFC
That was hilarious. My 14 year old who likes MJ even lifted up off the couch and was like,,.did he really just say that? We had a good father-son laugh thanks to ole Mike.
Did anyone else notice how lost Harry was last night on the defensive end. I thought he was making strides with the mental parts of his game but holy cow he was lost.
I thought he hung in there well in the firs half. He spelled amile for decent amount of time. He was definitely lost in the second half.
Harry looked a bit confused on rotations. Freshmen bigs rarely know what they are doing on defense and in organized offenses. Big Jah was the same. Kentucky's Bam the same. Bolden the same. That doesn't seem to stop them from being good NBA players.
Great game, UNC just won the last 3-4 minutes...they converted late and we didn't...on to Clemson or NcState