***DUKE VS. VIRGINIA TECH POST GAME THREAD***

DukeDenver

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Youngman42 brought up a great point. Grayson. At the beginning of the year, look at what the freshman said, they look up to Grayson, he's a leader, sets the example. Yea, that's not working out to well right now. We've got a lot going on. Along with boatloads of injuries.
Somehow some way, K will get more out of our young guns and oddly, Grayson. We would be a completely different team if the defensive light bulbs came on for HG and Ques. Let's enjoy the master at work over the next few months.
 

sheyduke

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I think Jackson has a chance to be special, if he quits pressing which leads to him fouling.
Giles is still a little worried about the knee it showed in the first but in the second he wanted it and acourse some fouls didn't help.
Bolden, I'm lost with him
Imo best line up as already stated
Grayson, Luke, Tatum, Amile and Giles.
Yes, I love Matt but Im finally going with the rest of the board bring his leadership off the bench with a second unit of
Jackson, Jones, Jeter and Bolden.
That's a nine man rotation and some good breaks until the lights come on for Bolden.
 

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I think Jackson has a chance to be special, if he quits pressing which leads to him fouling.
Giles is still a little worried about the knee it showed in the first but in the second he wanted it and acourse some fouls didn't help.
Bolden, I'm lost with him
Imo best line up as already stated
Grayson, Luke, Tatum, Amile and Giles.
Yes, I love Matt but Im finally going with the rest of the board bring his leadership off the bench with a second unit of
Jackson, Jones, Jeter and Bolden.
That's a nine man rotation and some good breaks until the lights come on for Bolden.

Totally agree....Matt's too much of an offensive liability, and Frank does get to the hoop better...Go w/Jackson (till GA is back), Luke, Amile, Harry, Jayson...

OFC
 

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I was at the game today and looked to me that Harry and luke were having words one time going to the bench in a timeout....this don't look like a good sign to me at all
 

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OAD's can buy in. This group just hasn't yet and quite frankly they haven't seen true success with the full group. Hard to buy in when you don't feel successful. Everyone but Luke has dropped on draft boards and let's be honest, that plays a factor in how kids react.

I do agree with you though. It is a tight rope anymore in college ball.

Coach K must find a way to get Tatum, Luke, Grayson, Bolden, Frank, Amile, Chase, Harry, and Matt to player as one unit. There is too much individual talent and not enough togetherness.

Honestly, this team looks like the Cousin, Wall, Eric, Orton, Patterson UK Team
 

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Coach K must find a way to get Tatum, Luke, Grayson, Bolden, Frank, Amile, Chase, Harry, and Matt to player as one unit. There is too much individual talent and not enough togetherness.

Honestly, this team looks like the Cousin, Wall, Eric, Orton, Patterson UK Team

And not even as good as that team looked. They could be worlds better. And I still think they will. Right now, however, not even close. Not even close to the team that played UNLV, talent discrepancy notwithstanding.
 

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Youngman42 brought up a great point. Grayson. At the beginning of the year, look at what the freshman said, they look up to Grayson, he's a leader, sets the example. Yea, that's not working out to well right now. We've got a lot going on. Along with boatloads of injuries.


The freshmen still look to Grayson. Grayson attacks the basket, killer instinct, plays with passion, and yes he makes mistakes.
 

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I was at the game today and looked to me that Harry and luke were having words one time going to the bench in a timeout....this don't look like a good sign to me at all

I think I saw what you were talking about (could have been a different time) but that looked more like a competitive/frustration situation than two guys who don't like each other.

Before there is any speculation there, I promise Harry is the team's mascot. The guys love him. If you ever hear about any issues with teammates, it ain't Harry.
 

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I think I saw what you were talking about (could have been a different time) but that looked more like a competitive/frustration situation than two guys who don't like each other.

There is nothing wrong with players holding each other accountable. That may be good for chemistry.
 
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We'll be fine. ACC is very legit this year and this team scraping by teams like Elon is not a wake up call like this game will be. Adversity reveals character and this team has plenty of it.

I do feel the Jimmy Chitwood reference needs more love. If K woulda yelled "MAYBE THEY WERE RIGHT ABOUT US! MAYBE WE DONT BELONG!", we have responded better. :)

Go Devils!
 
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The problem with this team is that with Grayson out and Jackson nursing a foot injury, no one can hit an outside shot consistently except Kennard. Jones is in a huge slump and Tatum hasn't found his rhythm yet but he has never been a great three point shoter. He is good from 15 feet in. Jones is a tremendous shooting slump especially from 3.

Jefferson is not as effective when Jones and Tatum can't stretch the defense. Kennard is silky smooth but not a leader.

Tatum has always let the game come to him and Kennard is the same way. Giles has the ability to stretch the center on offense opening driving lanes and easy rebounds.
 

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Is Javin hurt? We needed defense and energy yesterday. I dont worry as much about offense. Our offense was way too stagnant at times.
 

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The positive hope re: the Grayson trouble and problems is that if he comes back with a combination of humility and hard work - which really is what every great athlete needs and has to a degree - then he can show the team an even better example than before. Often, it's how someone comes back from and deals with exceptional adversity that brings out an even greater message to those around them.

And, that message would be very good for the team as a whole, as they also, as a unit, are dealing with adversity; as well as a message for all the freshmen but especially players like Giles and Bolden. They have to be struggling some with their confidence and with the adversity of not playing a great deal, not having the big impact they expected to as freshmen, etc.

As the old saying goes, "expectations lead to frustration." One big key in that regard is - as I've heard K emphasize before and as I think these young guys need - is that what matters is not the past game but the next practice. And, of course, within that concept, K's famous, "Next play" mentality. Giles and the freshmen, as well as the entire team, need to focus on each possession in each practice. Just getting better each play in practice. As they center on that and if Grayson can contribute to that - they will really improve.

It's just going to be a lot of hard work and effort. Don't shrink back in disappointment or the confidence loss (that's easy to do at any level; at any age! I know ...). But, press on and work harder.

OFC
 
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skysdad

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I was at the game today and looked to me that Harry and luke were having words one time going to the bench in a timeout....this don't look like a good sign to me at all


Are we as Duke fans looking for things we may perceive as " chemistry " issues when that is not the case at all. I'm an only child but I grew up with families who had brothers who if you didn't know any better hated one another but if you jumped on one you might as well go ahead and fight them all. I think perhaps we just need to chill out a little and stop looking for things that aren't really there. OFC
 

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Are we as Duke fans looking for things we may perceive as " chemistry " issues when that is not the case at all. I'm an only child but I grew up with families who had brothers who if you didn't know any better hated one another but if you jumped on one you might as well go ahead and fight them all. I think perhaps we just need to chill out a little and stop looking for things that aren't really there. OFC
Yea but you have some on here that are in the locker room and know everything that is wrong internally with the team.

OFC
 

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Are we as Duke fans looking for things we may perceive as " chemistry " issues when that is not the case at all. I'm an only child but I grew up with families who had brothers who if you didn't know any better hated one another but if you jumped on one you might as well go ahead and fight them all. I think perhaps we just need to chill out a little and stop looking for things that aren't really there. OFC

Very good point, Sky. Appearances can be deceptive...and winning cures mucho ills.

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