***DUKE VS VIRGINIA TECH***

sheyduke

All-American
Apr 13, 2010
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Fans bash players and especially Grayson.

I ask you this. Where is all the star power outside of Grayson? It was Giles, Tatum and Bolden. Tatum just now showing up no Giles or Bolden.

I'll take the 14 point loss. But I ask us as fans to not be so harsh. These are kids who's expectations are set not only by the coaches but also by the fans. We let are own selfs down when they don't preform to what " We" expect.
 

crazyduke3

All-Conference
Mar 28, 2010
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Hah, Matt can't be blamed for what 4 other guys don't do. He shouldn't have to shoot and drive the way he has today. With no other options at guard, he's had no chance. NONE of this is his fault. NONE of it.
Ehh some of it IS on him, come on now. After 4 years, he could be better than this on offense.

It was a collective failure by our team. Onto the next one, go Duke.
 

tripleb71

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Dec 1, 2016
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People keep saying Matt had to take shots, but I saw him shoot three shots where VT players weren't within 10 feet of him and none of them were close to dropping.
 
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Ioliva

All-Conference
Jul 30, 2009
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I saw the team coming together the second half it was just way too late. I feel a little better. The first half was downright scary bad though
 

TRU CANE

Junior
Aug 30, 2006
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This team may have to take the road the 2013-14 Kentucky team did. Which is a tough road.
 

pisgah101

Heisman
Dec 26, 2005
15,240
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It is only one game, but I'm deeply concerned. I don't see Giles or Bolden making some dramatic turn anytime soon, who knows when Allen comes back. Matt Jones absolutely cannot shoot, it's a real problem. I'm just not sure where the major improvements come from

Sad thing is K won't play either enough for us to find out
 

chov1125

All-Conference
Oct 15, 2008
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Matt is in a horrid shooting slump right now. the lynch mob will surely not give him a pass but he is also the only person on our team right now making plays on defense. So on one hand it is tough to support a 3 and D guy when he is as cold as Matt is but with as bad as our guys look at defense can we really afford to bench a guy who is actually creating turnovers.
 
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DukeRulesBasketball

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Aug 20, 2015
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At least UNCheat lost. Just sucked Duke didn't win so we could really rub it in. Got outplayed big time but it is the first true road test and we are still trying to get the kinks worked out. What matters is March! Onto the next one.
 
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pisgah101

Heisman
Dec 26, 2005
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Matt is in a horrid shooting slump right now. the lynch mob will surely not give him a pass but he is also the only person on our team right now making plays on defense. So on one hand it is tough to support a 3 and D guy when he is as cold as Matt is but with as bad as our guys look at defense can we really afford to bench a guy who is actually creating turnovers.

I agree a four year shooting slump is a long time
 
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chov1125

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This team from the coaches through the players is going to get a serious gut check these next couple weeks. They are at a fork in the road for sure. It's called adversity. They are a very talented team but right now they are not a very good team. This team can either point fingers and feel sorry for themselves or they can fight their tails off learn to play as a team and learn how to win together. I'm disappointed in today's performance as is everybody but I'm even more intrigued to see how we respond
 
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Kobe #1

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Feb 9, 2008
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Fans bash players and especially Grayson.

I ask you this. Where is all the star power outside of Grayson? It was Giles, Tatum and Bolden. Tatum just now showing up no Giles or Bolden.

I'll take the 14 point loss. But I ask us as fans to not be so harsh. These are kids who's expectations are set not only by the coaches but also by the fans. We let are own selfs down when they don't preform to what " We" expect.

I see what your saying, but is it to much to expect a little hustle and enthusiasm. If I thought they gave it everything they had and just got beat I would not be so disappointed. The defensive is terrible, and it is all about effort, the ball does not move on offense until whoever has it decides they are not going to get up a good shot, then we take a tough shot anyways.

I am not sure what the deal is, I know my expectations coming in where high and I am sure the teams was. They are not having fun and it is a dysfunctional atmosphere from outside looking in, something has to change or the same results are going to continue to happen.

I knew they were losing 10 minutes in, Tech wanted to be there and Duke did not, how can playing basketball at Duke not be fun and exciting, based on the team I witnessed today they do not seem to think it is.
 

dukehokie

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Jun 27, 2005
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I saw the team coming together the second half it was just way too late. I feel a little better. The first half was downright scary bad though

There were definitely moments in the second half. By that point they were too spent to continue that comeback pace. Man I wish Ques could contribute some.
 

Showenuff

Heisman
Nov 21, 2006
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No Allen, no flow. Luke keeps us in it for a while but VT wins by 9. Commentators talk more about Grayson than the game for a solid two hours.

Yep. Now that it's over, as predicted, several posters have already decided our seasons over, coach is horrible and Matt Jones should be sent to a deserted island in the Pacific. This was pretty easy to see coming. First of all, it's not just about we played bad, VT played an excellent game. Shot really well. Played great defense. It's just not that hard to see we aren't ready yet and yes, it is due to injuries, it's not because K is a bad coach or Matt Jones sucks. That's silly. Grayson in this game and it's a different story, garanteed. We still have a way to go to play as a team, it's hard when half the team just got here fellas. We'll get better, but lots of work to be done yet. We definitely will be out of sorts until Grayson returns. Giles will be along after a few more games. I think Jackson rises soon as well. This ain't over by a long shot. The same people screaming doom and gloom did it during our 15 skid, wrote us off for a first round exit. We rose to the top. Hang in there and Go Duke!
 

crazyduke3

All-Conference
Mar 28, 2010
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Yeah Giles will get better, k clearly trying to increase his minutes for his benefit. He'll get there.

Bottom line losing always sucks.

Which is why it's great UNX lost also!
 

pinecreek

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UNC was terrible too today. Couldn't shoot. Unusual day. Might just have been first road game after a break....etc. lets see how they do the next 2.
 

dukehokie

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Jun 27, 2005
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Yep. Now that it's over, as predicted, several posters have already decided our seasons over, coach is horrible and Matt Jones should be sent to a deserted island in the Pacific. This was pretty easy to see coming. First of all, it's not just about we played bad, VT played an excellent game. Shot really well. Played great defense. It's just not that hard to see we aren't ready yet and yes, it is due to injuries, it's not because K is a bad coach or Matt Jones sucks. That's silly. Grayson in this game and it's a different story, garanteed. We still have a way to go to play as a team, it's hard when half the team just got here fellas. We'll get better, but lots of work to be done yet. We definitely will be out of sorts until Grayson returns. Giles will be along after a few more games. I think Jackson rises soon as well. This ain't over by a long shot. The same people screaming doom and gloom did it during our 15 skid, wrote us off for a first round exit. We rose to the top. Hang in there and Go Duke!

Here here Show.
 

BNM79

Junior
Sep 1, 2012
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Giles will be getting plenty of minutes soon enough. Up until a couple weeks ago he hadn't played in over a year. It isn't a video game.

Not sure on bolden though. Probably having trouble with adapting to the college game. He is no longer the biggest and the best on a team. It may not be until later in the year when catches on.

Sad thing is K won't play either enough for us to find out
 

timo0402

Heisman
Feb 24, 2009
13,868
13,709
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Yep. Now that it's over, as predicted, several posters have already decided our seasons over, coach is horrible and Matt Jones should be sent to a deserted island in the Pacific. This was pretty easy to see coming. First of all, it's not just about we played bad, VT played an excellent game. Shot really well. Played great defense. It's just not that hard to see we aren't ready yet and yes, it is due to injuries, it's not because K is a bad coach or Matt Jones sucks. That's silly. Grayson in this game and it's a different story, garanteed. We still have a way to go to play as a team, it's hard when half the team just got here fellas. We'll get better, but lots of work to be done yet. We definitely will be out of sorts until Grayson returns. Giles will be along after a few more games. I think Jackson rises soon as well. This ain't over by a long shot. The same people screaming doom and gloom did it during our 15 skid, wrote us off for a first round exit. We rose to the top. Hang in there and Go Duke!
Patience is easy when things are going great. You're spot on here.

I sent @dukehokie a pic of my tally of Grayson mentions during the game- I'll have to figure out how to post it here.
 

NYBlueDevil

Freshman
Oct 29, 2016
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The way I see it is this and this is just my opinion. We have a collection of good players, but we are not close to what I would call a good "team". Watching Villanova right now...that's a team.
 
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hart2chesson

Heisman
Oct 13, 2012
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Our problems are mental, not physical. We're a collection of individual players having trouble playing as a team. All that said, Grayson Allen is sorely missed.


OFC
Boy Dirt hit it- BAM! Great talent that looks just thrown out there to me! Chemistry issues..

OFC
 

Kingbluedevil

All-American
Apr 2, 2014
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I'm not worried yet. In a few weeks Tatums going to be our go to after he gains more confidence. He started to show a different look in the second half. K will find a defense that will fit this Team and it can't be what we're running now. Our guards couldn't stay in front of fat Albert. If we don't figure it out soon we will finish middle of the pack in the acc with Mickey Ds all over the place.
 

topps coach

All-Conference
Feb 6, 2008
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He has time and a chance to develope but personally I don't see it. We need a center and it's not amile. Someone has to step up out of our 3 options.[/QUOTYao realize that he is only 19 and has
You're just scared to say what you think
i will say it you are an idiot that needs to stfu or pick another team to root for
 

topps coach

All-Conference
Feb 6, 2008
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Someone said we need a new coach? We can't just say k is doing a terrible job with THIS team?
Sure that with your resume you do understand that it takes more than a week for players to learn how to play together.This team has not been together long enough to play together.So with this in mind you want the denigrate the GOAT. SMH