Duke bout to drop 100+ for the fourth time in five games, and dominated Kansas and Texas. This is so infuriating that they haven’t missed a beat, but we’re struggling. My fear is that we’ll become Indiana. Just venting in frustration for our program
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Outside of Cal’a first 6 years we are Indiana. This is of course Mitch Barnhart’s doing. Truly the worst AD we’ve ever had for basketball.
final 4 like last yr probBut what’ll they do in tournament
their recruiting is a step above ours, id say coaching is similar tho
Duke is really good. They‘ll likely win the title.
Thats what’s so frustrating about Calipari. He had overwhelming talent numerous times, and pissed it away every year but 1, and tried to pss that game away.
Thats what’s so frustrating about Calipari. He had overwhelming talent numerous times, and pissed it away every year but 1, and tried to pss that game away.
Duke might be really, really good or maybe not. We have no idea yet.
This is a game against Howard lol
This is a game against Howard lol
A large percentage of Kentucky’s fan base are cowards now, many of them imported over the last decade.So now we’re Kowtowing to Duke?
Didn’t use to be this way.
Listen, man. I understand our early losses were frustrating but you do understand that we were a three seed in the NCAA tournament just a few months ago and you’re comparing us to Indiana? Indiana hasn’t had a three seed or better in twelve years lol. Let’s calm down a tad.
Cowards or just frustrated with the outlook of the program?
How bout we get behind our coach and kids instead of bailing on them six games into the season and sit around pining for Nate Oats or being jealous of Duke?
Our coach and players are being paid huge money. It's okay to talk about how they are doing.
i think its because we all just want to be entertaining and winning again
Hmm. I thought we beat and severely out coached them last year?
Talk about how they are doing is fine. Criticism is fine. Quitting on the players and talk of firing the coach are a joke
well we beat them mainly bc it was their 3rd game together with a young talented group, which is why they made the f4 and we fizzled out early
We weren’t able to keep up with Duke in recruiting when we had the greatest recruiting coach of all time on our sidelines, so why in the world would anyone think putting eggs in that basket makes any sense? If we were going to do things that way, you should have never gotten rid of Calipari. Thankfully, there’s no good reason to think recruiting classes have anything to do with winning at a high level in college basketball these days.
"Thankfully, there’s no good reason to think recruiting classes have anything to do with winning at a high level in college basketball these days."
your smarter than this
IDK. I sure would have loved to have seen Caleb Wilson at UK this season and seen what a difference he could have made. I think Pope agreed because he went after him hard.
Recruiting is more like an elevator to the top floor above us than just a step above us.
Maybe. But you also have to acknowledge that the last two times we had the top rivals recruiting class, 2020 and 2023 both led to serious failures. The 2020 class came to Kentucky and led the way to a 9-16 season in 2021. The 2023 class played zero defense on our way to losing in the 2024 first round to Oakland, which sealed Cal’s fate here. I’m just trying to be intellectually honest and not retcon those times where it was obvious that sometimes you win and sometimes you lose depending on a batch of toddlers, because they flop heavy and sometimes they are amazing. Build a steady program where you don’t have to depend on the children—- that’s what I want.
Because Calipari wasn't recruiting for the purpose of winning titles.
No. I guess I’m an idiot who saw that in the last ten years, literally no single team that had a top 5 HS recruiting class won a natty. But I’m sure that’s just a stupid point right?
"the last two times we had the top recruiting class" we had cal, who is known for wasting talent, our coach is pope, who is known for MAXIMIZING talent
No, just punks that don't have the balls to stick with their team through diversity and are to weak see it through to the end of the year before they write them off
Don’t miss the forest for the trees, man. Cal was a lot of the reason we had those classes. There isn’t another Calipari behind door number three. It was Kentucky and Duke #1 and #2 almost every single year while Cal was here for HS recruiting. Wasn’t an accident. Cal was a deficient coach and not my cup of tea but his recruiting is unmatched
But IMO Cal's trouble was he wanted a lineup of all freshmen. You can get 1 or 2 stud youngsters and surround them with nice veteran role players. I think that's what Pope has been trying for but hasn't been able to land 1 yet.
yes, im just saying even a decent coach with cals recruiting woukd be scary, thats why scheyers been building at duke
There’s literally no reason to suggest you need even one of them. I did the work myself to find that ZERO teams led by a OAD freshman have won a title in ten years. Furthermore, only 5% of starters on final four teams in that span were OAD freshmen. It isn’t needed whatsoever
yes im aware, which is why i think if the recruiting doesnt improve what will? i homestly think thats the only thing we are really deficient in right now
Ohhh ok.. it was our 3rd game as well with a whole new team I guess there are different type 3rd games?
UK also went to the Sw 16 missing an injured starter and several fighting injuries.
That’s the thing, man. I’m genuinely trying to help people like you in our fanbase. All we think about is recruiting, recruiting, recruiting. We think of the wrong things as answers to our issues. This is a whole new era in CBB
thats all we think about bc thats honestly the only thing thats behind
But recruiting is the big thing. I'm not just talking about high school but also portal players where Pope missed out on many of his top choices also.
You have been awfully negative here lately. That’s your right I guess. Just for the record, I am sticking by the team. Have season tickets in basketball, spending major bucks going to Gonzaga game, and putting in for SEC tourney tickets. The coach is not immune to criticism.