Dylan Grant

goru7

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He is going to solicit a lot of different opinions but his present game compared to how he started the year is night and day . I put a lot of the blame on Pike. He has neutered him and someone who was our go to scorer , taking the most shots , shooting from 3 freely without hesitation now is relegated to getting a touch on a dribble handoff and immediately giving it up and setting a pick never to get the ball again. Pike has yanked him for lax defense but then buries him on the bench for 5-8-10 minutes at a time . Dylan is a sophomore seemed to develop his handle in the off season and he was a decent 3 point shooter and could drive to the basket. The driving and 3 point attempts have disappeared deferring to Francis or now Powers or Zrno . Pike has him buried in the corner on half of the possessions he is in the game. His confidence has been shattered and he is missing shots from in close . Very very upsetting on a team that struggles to score , Pike has ruined Dylan and hurt the team.
Now maybe some think he has to have a stronger fortitude and not defer and be aggressive and attack the basket , which I was hoping to see, but he refuses to do it. So some will blame Dylan.
Basketball is a game played with confidence and Dylan has zero confidence right now. It is almost like if he does drive and is unsuccessful , he will be yanked by Pike. Pike would likely respond that when he plays better defense and rebounds better , he will play more and be featured more. That is asinine on this offensive challenged team. This is so head scratching and a shame because God knows we could use the Dylan we saw to start the year.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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He is a very weak defender and cannot create a shot against p5 players. Very limited.
Sadly - it’s this. He’s weak defensively against anyone. Even low majors. And the bar for weak is low. We don’t have many plus defenders but in my view he stands out at times as hurting us defensively because he just doesn’t understand help concepts which is a key role for his position. He can be an impact guy at the low major level but seems limited in terms of what he can do against better, bigger defenders in the post. I’m not sure how this is on Pike. It’s not like we were creating for him before and now we’re not. He’s trying to score in the same ways now but getting stopped because the competition is better. That’s all there is to it.
 

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Agree with your analysis; at times he gets aggressive and (many) other times he sits back. And SP has been talking about that aspect. Is this on the staff to constantly motivate him - or is this on the player. Watching him off ball at home (you're right) he stands around waiting for the ball to find him; but again, this may be on the staff to put him in better position. My early January view is - he won't be back next season. Don't think he will want to continue as part of this re-build (gotta call it something).
 
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seansherm

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Once again some RU fans think great play vs awful mid majors means we have a player. He has been mostly a non factor Va high majors

Same story as GG when he was here
GG was a freshman, Grant is a soph. Let kids develop. I told everyone they were over rating Grant at this point. We'd take GG now.
 

goru7

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Sadly - it’s this. He’s weak defensively against anyone. Even low majors. And the bar for weak is low. We don’t have many plus defenders but in my view he stands out at times as hurting us defensively because he just doesn’t understand help concepts which is a key role for his position. He can be an impact guy at the low major level but seems limited in terms of what he can do against better, bigger defenders in the post. I’m not sure how this is on Pike. It’s not like we were creating for him before and now we’re not. He’s trying to score in the same ways now but getting stopped because the competition is better. That’s all there is to it.
Totally disagree with you. He has shown last year and early this year that he can play against high majors . So just bull what you say. Pike is hurting the team and on a team that offensively challenged it makes it a double whammy. Pike has done zero to emphasize and put Dylan in spots to get the ball and go to work .Pike takes 15 games to try and figure out his rotations and now has screwed up Dylan. I hate to say this but if I am Dylan I take it to the basket or shoot it everytime I touch it because Pike has decided to do nothing. Shameful.
 

goru7

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Once again some RU fans think great play vs awful mid majors means we have a player. He has been mostly a non factor Va high majors

Same story as GG when he was here
Hey newbie , he played against and quite well against high majors last year so you have a memory lapse. His early games showed an improved handle and a driving skill set that got him fouled and to the line. It has all disappeared .Pike needs to change his approach to Dylan today
 
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goru7

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Agree with your analysis; at times he gets aggressive and (many) other times he sits back. And SP has been talking about that aspect. Is this on the staff to constantly motivate him - or is this on the player. Watching him off ball at home (you're right) he stands around waiting for the ball to find him; but again, this may be on the staff to put him in better position. My early January view is - he won't be back next season. Don't think he will want to continue as part of this re-build (gotta call it something).
Unfortunately that is where it is heading and it sucks.
 

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Grant is a complimentary player on a good team. He is not a go to player or budding star that our fan base is so desperate for. He was wrongly casted as this because he Is one of the few high major talents our team has. last year he played his role perfectly as the 4th or 5th guy that can blend in. He is a bench player on any top half big ten team.
 

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Hey newbie , he played against and quite well against high majors last year so you have a memory lapse. His early games showed an improved handle and a driving skill set that got him fouled and to the line. It has all disappeared .Pike needs to change his approach to Dylan today
Lets be honest, when Francis is on the floor he is looking for his shot 1st and to pass 2nd, hence if Grant isn't going to create or take his shot, then offensive rebounds are going to be where his shots come from.
I've also seen Grant mishandle some passes from Powers, almost like he is not expecting them
Last night Powers ended up throwing one away because Grant stopped moving toward the hoop.
I agree with goru7 that Pike needs to address this so that some other team doesn't reap Grants play next year
 

PSAL_Hoops

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Totally disagree with you. He has shown last year and early this year that he can play against high majors . So just bull what you say. Pike is hurting the team and on a team that offensively challenged it makes it a double whammy. Pike has done zero to emphasize and put Dylan in spots to get the ball and go to work .Pike takes 15 games to try and figure out his rotations and now has screwed up Dylan. I hate to say this but if I am Dylan I take it to the basket or shoot it everytime I touch it because Pike has decided to do nothing. Shameful.

He can play as a complimentary player. On the podcast Richie said Grant was questionable for the game so maybe he’s been plying hurt.
 

Degaz-RU

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Just a note -- Grant was listed as "Questionable" on last night's Availability Report. So he quite likely has a nagging injury or perhaps the flu that is going around. This may be one of the reasons he looks so out of it lately.

I do, however, agree with those who have said that Grant's offensive game is somewhat limited. He is not the kind of 6-7 wing who can score on the move or create his own shot (like Wagler on Illinois). He is mostly a spot-up shooter, but is being asked to be more of a go-to guy this year because -- before the emergence of Tariq Francis -- there was nobody else who could be relied on to score.
 

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Totally disagree with you. He has shown last year and early this year that he can play against high majors . So just bull what you say. Pike is hurting the team and on a team that offensively challenged it makes it a double whammy. Pike has done zero to emphasize and put Dylan in spots to get the ball and go to work .Pike takes 15 games to try and figure out his rotations and now has screwed up Dylan. I hate to say this but if I am Dylan I take it to the basket or shoot it everytime I touch it because Pike has decided to do nothing. Shameful.
Grant is a sophomore who will develop more, but he really isn't an above average player at this point. He's surprisingly shot the 3 well and gotten to the rim against less talented defenders, but he is awful defensively and not ready for upper level teams. He was pretty bad last year too, his competition on the team was just so bad that he looked like he was doing something good just by being active. Very similar to what we see with Dortch playing out of position this year.
 
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goru7

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Just a note -- Grant was listed as "Questionable" on last night's Availability Report. So he quite likely has a nagging injury or perhaps the flu that is going around. This may be one of the reasons he looks so out of it lately.

I do, however, agree with those who have said that Grant's offensive game is somewhat limited. He is not the kind of 6-7 wing who can score on the move or create his own shot (like Wagler on Illinois). He is mostly a spot-up shooter, but is being asked to be more of a go-to guy this year because -- before the emergence of Tariq Francis -- there was nobody else who could be relied on to score.
How could you compare him to Wagner who is a guard and playing 2 guard. Dylan is a 3 being asked to play the 4 but no plays are being designed for him . You say he is limited offensively , how would we know. After starting the season on fire , he has been relegated to having no role . Last year he showed he could compete at the highest levels. .It appeared he worked on his handle to drive more so he wasn’t what you called “ mostly a spot up shooter”. .That has stopped totally . Something is wrong and my guess is it is more on Pike than on Dylan
 

Degaz-RU

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How could you compare him to Wagner who is a guard and playing 2 guard. Dylan is a 3 being asked to play the 4 but no plays are being designed for him . You say he is limited offensively , how would we know. After starting the season on fire , he has been relegated to having no role . Last year he showed he could compete at the highest levels. .It appeared he worked on his handle to drive more so he wasn’t what you called “ mostly a spot up shooter”. .That has stopped totally . Something is wrong and my guess is it is more on Pike than on Dylan
Dylan is 6-7. Wagler is 6-6. They're both "wings" regardless of which spot they play. Wagler plays the 3 for Illinois, so the comparison is apt.

I'm basing my opinion on the entire season's worth of games, including the early season games. He was hitting threes and also was able to get downhill and to the rim against weak competition. But against the better opponents, he has struggled getting downhill, and when he tries to score on the move in the mid-range, he's not effective (I even made note of this in one of my Rapid Reaction threads back in Nov/Dec, I think from Vegas). His 3-pt shot is also not falling recently, although that's more of a streaky thing, so I don't take too much from that.

I also pointed out that he may be injured or suffering from the flu, so I'm willing to give him more of a pass for his recent slump.
 
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Hey newbie , he played against and quite well against high majors last year so you have a memory lapse. His early games showed an improved handle and a driving skill set that got him fouled and to the line. It has all disappeared .Pike needs to change his approach to Dylan today
Hey newbie, guess you didn’t really pay attention last year. He played with 2 lottery picks that got all the attention from the defense. Not the case this year.

Grant is neither as bad as he’s been playing nor as good as he looked against the mid majors
 
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goru7

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Dylan is 6-7. Wagler is 6-6. They're both "wings" regardless of which spot they play. Wagler plays the 3 for Illinois, so the comparison is apt.

I'm basing my opinion on the entire season's worth of games, including the early season games. He was hitting threes and also was able to get downhill and to the rim against weak competition. But against the better opponents, he has struggled getting downhill, and when he tries to score on the move in the mid-range, he's not effective (I even made note of this in one of my Rapid Reaction threads back in Nov/Dec, I think from Vegas). His 3-pt shot is also not falling recently, although that's more of a streaky thing, so I don't take too much from that.

I also pointed out that he may be injured or suffering from the flu, so I'm willing to give him more of a pass for his recent slump.
Okay but I don’t think it is a slump in the normal sense. Shooting only 2 shots/ and going 0-2 is not a slump . It is a usage problem. That is my point. Pike has decided not to use Dylan for offense and Dylan hasn’t said F you and shot every time down and is playing passive soldier and handling off passes on the wing after a screen and never seeing the ball again. Something is terribly wrong and it hurting the team very much. With Francis emergence off the bench additional offensive scoring is essential and would make the fight more competitive.
 

BigEastPhil

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My thoughts on Grant :

Because defenses focused on Dylan H and Ace last year - Grant had much more room to operate efficiently and effectively.

With the lack of talent this year - Grant is being more heavily defended.

Furthermore I think Grant is becoming too much 3 point shot oriented and needs to play inside d use his athleticism more.

I like Grant and he’s talented and I struggle sometimes with how Pike is utilizing him.
 

PSAL_Hoops

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How could you compare him to Wagner who is a guard and playing 2 guard. Dylan is a 3 being asked to play the 4 but no plays are being designed for him . You say he is limited offensively , how would we know. After starting the season on fire , he has been relegated to having no role . Last year he showed he could compete at the highest levels. .It appeared he worked on his handle to drive more so he wasn’t what you called “ mostly a spot up shooter”. .That has stopped totally . Something is wrong and my guess is it is more on Pike than on Dylan

He definitely wasn’t a go to guy last year rather he was the recipient of openings available as a result of teams having to account for Ace and Dylan. He did a good job as a complementary player on offense and proved he can be a fine complement on a team that has several offensive weapons - most notably a guy like Ace to focus on in the front court. Most of his baskets in the paint were back door cuts where he was left open. Credit him for making the most of his opportunity but he has not at any point demonstrated an ability to score the ball in isolation or dominate using moves in the paint. Against mid majors he’s been effective cleaning up the offensive glass for put backs.

His D is not good enough. Now maybe if he was playing alongside a Cliff type big man and a Caleb type it would be ok (for example Hyatt’s role) but that’s not our reality. He can’t stop anyone in the paint. The guys who sub for him are much more effective in this regard other than Denis who is no longer playing much.

Perhaps he is sick or hurt and the reason for his worse performance on the offensive glass etc are partly because of this.
 

seansherm

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My thoughts on Grant :

Because defenses focused on Dylan H and Ace last year - Grant had much more room to operate efficiently and effectively.

With the lack of talent this year - Grant is being more heavily defended.

Furthermore I think Grant is becoming too much 3 point shot oriented and needs to play inside d use his athleticism more.

I like Grant and he’s talented and I struggle sometimes with how Pike is utilizing him.
Grant is actually producing at a higher and more efficient rate this year than last. Shooting from 2, 3, and the line better. Rebounding, passing, steals all better per 40, he's blocking less shots. Small development, he just wasn't as productive as people think LY as his starting point.

I actually think he should be in the paint less. He's already in the 83rd percentile in 2 point attempts and shoots less than 50% from 2 while his 3% has become solid.

Not sure there is anything positive to say about his D.
 

Loyal-Son

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Grant is young with lots of potential.

He is NOT a guy who enjoys the spotlight or wants to be the number one option, so he is having trouble adjusting to the present situation. Pike is trying to get him to assert himself and take advantage of his talent, but he is having trouble adjusting.

Anyone who knows how to coach understands how challenging it is to get someone in this situation to step up. Lots of kids have trouble adjusting to a role as the "main" man.
 
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Grant is young with lots of potential.

He is NOT a guy who enjoys the spotlight or wants to be the number one option, so he is having trouble adjusting to the present situation. Pike is trying to get him to assert himself and take advantage of his talent, but he is having trouble adjusting.

Anyone who knows how to coach understands how challenging it is to get someone in this situation to step up. Lots of kids have trouble adjusting to a role as the "main" man.
That is no where near reality.Pike has caused this problem both individually and for the team. Dylan is a shell of himself last year and the early part of this year. Pike is not letting him step up that is the point. Dylan taking 2 shots or 4 shots a night is not Dylan but Pike allowing that to happen and then punishing him relentlessly for some subpar defense and benching him for 8-10 minutes at a time. That is bad coaching and destroying confidence that every player needs to be successful at this level.
 

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He is going to solicit a lot of different opinions but his present game compared to how he started the year is night and day . I put a lot of the blame on Pike. He has neutered him and someone who was our go to scorer , taking the most shots , shooting from 3 freely without hesitation now is relegated to getting a touch on a dribble handoff and immediately giving it up and setting a pick never to get the ball again. Pike has yanked him for lax defense but then buries him on the bench for 5-8-10 minutes at a time . Dylan is a sophomore seemed to develop his handle in the off season and he was a decent 3 point shooter and could drive to the basket. The driving and 3 point attempts have disappeared deferring to Francis or now Powers or Zrno . Pike has him buried in the corner on half of the possessions he is in the game. His confidence has been shattered and he is missing shots from in close . Very very upsetting on a team that struggles to score , Pike has ruined Dylan and hurt the team.
Now maybe some think he has to have a stronger fortitude and not defer and be aggressive and attack the basket , which I was hoping to see, but he refuses to do it. So some will blame Dylan.
Basketball is a game played with confidence and Dylan has zero confidence right now. It is almost like if he does drive and is unsuccessful , he will be yanked by Pike. Pike would likely respond that when he plays better defense and rebounds better , he will play more and be featured more. That is asinine on this offensive challenged team. This is so head scratching and a shame because God knows we could use the Dylan we saw to start the year.
He never was a great player, and now he is competing against better players.
 

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He definitely wasn’t a go to guy last year rather he was the recipient of openings available as a result of teams having to account for Ace and Dylan. He did a good job as a complementary player on offense and proved he can be a fine complement on a team that has several offensive weapons - most notably a guy like Ace to focus on in the front court. Most of his baskets in the paint were back door cuts where he was left open. Credit him for making the most of his opportunity but he has not at any point demonstrated an ability to score the ball in isolation or dominate using moves in the paint. Against mid majors he’s been effective cleaning up the offensive glass for put backs.

His D is not good enough. Now maybe if he was playing alongside a Cliff type big man and a Caleb type it would be ok (for example Hyatt’s role) but that’s not our reality. He can’t stop anyone in the paint. The guys who sub for him are much more effective in this regard other than Denis who is no longer playing much.

Perhaps he is sick or hurt and the reason for his worse performance on the offensive glass etc are partly because of this.
Could he be just tired of losing and letting this affect his play?
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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Could he be just tired of losing and letting this affect his play?


No offense - but this is what I meant
comparatively about our fans not giving Francis a fair shake. Every time he’s not completely dominant in a game the bandwagon effect of him not being good enough for the BIG comes out but with Grant folks come up with these excuses. Grant’s numbers against the high majors are more deceiving than anyone’s. Early on, Pike left him in to collect a lot of garbage time baskets as a main guy against better competition this season. He may have scored double digits in those games but he was completely outplayed in all of them except against ND. And when he was effective last year it was as a complimentary player. Thats just how it’s been so far and it may be because he’s playing hurt, but I highly doubt it’s what you said. His NIL for future year’s depends on that not being the case.

Grant hasn’t scored a FG in the last two games and it’s not because Tariq isn’t passing him the ball (I know it wasn’t you who suggested that - I’m combining thoughts here) Tariq doesn’t play PG. If Grant wanted the ball and called for it in the position to make a play the guards would get him the ball. It just doesn’t seem like he has inside moves that are going to work well against higher level defenders. He can hit 3s at a nice rate but his ability seems more like Paul’s ability where he’s not comfortable launching outside shots in bulk. At least not yet.
 
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Grant is actually producing at a higher and more efficient rate this year than last. Shooting from 2, 3, and the line better. Rebounding, passing, steals all better per 40, he's blocking less shots. Small development, he just wasn't as productive as people think LY as his starting point.

I actually think he should be in the paint less. He's already in the 83rd percentile in 2 point attempts and shoots less than 50% from 2 while his 3% has become solid.

Not sure there is anything positive to say about his D.

Perhaps - but there’s not a whole lot of data to base any suggestion that Grant could or should be used as a volume sharp shooter. Hes only attempted 40 threes on the season and 83 threes over his whole career.

When Buchanan, for example, tried to increase his volume of shots from the outside last season his efficiency tanked, (granted he was also playing hurt so that could have something to do with it - but still).
 

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No offense - but this is what I meant
comparatively about our fans not giving Francis a fair shake. Every time he’s not completely dominant in a game the bandwagon effect of him not being good enough for the BIG comes out but with Grant folks come up with these excuses. Grant’s numbers against the high majors are more deceiving than anyone’s. Early on, Pike left him in to collect a lot of garbage time baskets as a main guy against better competition this season. He may have scored double digits in those games but he was completely outplayed in all of them except against ND. And when he was effective last year it was as a complimentary player. Thats just how it’s been so far and it may be because he’s playing hurt, but I highly doubt it’s what you said. His NIL for future year’s depends on that not being the case.

Grant hasn’t scored a FG in the last two games and it’s not because Tariq isn’t passing him the ball (I know it wasn’t you who suggested that - I’m combining thoughts here) Tariq doesn’t play PG. If Grant wanted the ball and called for it in the position to make a play the guards would get him the ball. It just doesn’t seem like he has inside moves that are going to work well against higher level defenders. He can hit 3s at a nice rate but his ability seems more like Paul’s ability where he’s not comfortable launching outside shots in bulk. At least not yet.
Well yes part of it is our guards not getting him the ball. Part is him not demanding the ball.

The biggest problem our coaches doing nothing to help him. He is not an ISO player and that’s the only set we run. Except 1/2 back screen lob attempts a game.

Not putting Dylan in a place to be successful, guards who can not create, no offense, and bad coaching.
 

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My thoughts on Grant :

Because defenses focused on Dylan H and Ace last year - Grant had much more room to operate efficiently and effectively.

With the lack of talent this year - Grant is being more heavily defended.

Furthermore I think Grant is becoming too much 3 point shot oriented and needs to play inside d use his athleticism more.

I like Grant and he’s talented and I struggle sometimes with how Pike is utilizing him.
Hit the nail on the head Phil
 

seansherm

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Perhaps - but there’s not a whole lot of data to base any suggestion that Grant could or should be used as a volume sharp shooter. Hes only attempted 40 threes on the season and 83 threes over his whole career.

When Buchanan, for example, tried to increase his volume of shots from the outside last season his efficiency tanked, (granted he was also playing hurt so that could have something to do with it - but still).
I'm not saying he should be high volume 3, he should just be in the paint less. He's also should be a third or 4th option offensively, so shooting a little less from everywhere.
 

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GG was a freshman, Grant is a soph. Let kids develop. I told everyone they were over rating Grant at this point. We'd take GG now.
Easy to say that now about Griffiths. He failed miserably at 2 big 10 schools before finding his stride a level down at Temple. These days no kid sticks round to put in the hard work to develop at 1 school when agents are buzzing around promising them greener pastures With unlimited transfers. That’s why this is by far my least favorite time as a fan of college hoops.
 
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seansherm

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Easy to say that now about Griffiths. He failed miserably at 2 big 10 schools before finding his stride a level down at Temple. These days no kid sticks round to put in the hard work to develop at 1 school when agents are buzzing around promising them greener pastures With unlimited transfers. That’s why this is by far my least favorite time as a fan of college hoops.
Said it then to all the fools who were saying he'd give us double digits or make Cam leaving irrelevant. There are always too many expectations heaped on our freshman. Sure, some will live up, but usually they won't.

I agree. Getting to watch kids develop over four or five years was my favorite part of college athletics.
 
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koleszar

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Pike should be figuring out ways to better utilize DG in the offense.
Not trying to bust balls but what offense? It's one on one, with everyone having the green light from anywhere. Same sh*t different year from the offensive genius Brandon Knight. I'm just tired of it, everyone else can draw up plays for easy baskets, Rutgers prays someone gets hot.
 
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PSAL_Hoops

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I'm not saying he should be high volume 3, he should just be in the paint less. He's also should be a third or 4th option offensively, so shooting a little less from everywhere.
But then why is he your 28 mpg starter? It’s definitely not for his D. If he’s not our biggest scoring threat or second best other than Francis he arguably shouldn’t be playing nearly as much. Right?
 

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That is no where near reality.Pike has caused this problem both individually and for the team. Dylan is a shell of himself last year and the early part of this year. Pike is not letting him step up that is the point. Dylan taking 2 shots or 4 shots a night is not Dylan but Pike allowing that to happen and then punishing him relentlessly for some subpar defense and benching him for 8-10 minutes at a time. That is bad coaching and destroying confidence that every player needs to be successful at this level.
Funny stuff. Don't go into coaching!
 
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Loyal-Son

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No offense - but this is what I meant
comparatively about our fans not giving Francis a fair shake. Every time he’s not completely dominant in a game the bandwagon effect of him not being good enough for the BIG comes out but with Grant folks come up with these excuses. Grant’s numbers against the high majors are more deceiving than anyone’s. Early on, Pike left him in to collect a lot of garbage time baskets as a main guy against better competition this season. He may have scored double digits in those games but he was completely outplayed in all of them except against ND. And when he was effective last year it was as a complimentary player. Thats just how it’s been so far and it may be because he’s playing hurt, but I highly doubt it’s what you said. His NIL for future year’s depends on that not being the case.

Grant hasn’t scored a FG in the last two games and it’s not because Tariq isn’t passing him the ball (I know it wasn’t you who suggested that - I’m combining thoughts here) Tariq doesn’t play PG. If Grant wanted the ball and called for it in the position to make a play the guards would get him the ball. It just doesn’t seem like he has inside moves that are going to work well against higher level defenders. He can hit 3s at a nice rate but his ability seems more like Paul’s ability where he’s not comfortable launching outside shots in bulk. At least not yet.
Key point - not comfortable. These kids have personalities; they are not robots. Grant is talented and has loads of potential. He has not figured out the mental part yet. I realize this is Greek to our arm-chair quarterbacks.
 
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