Of course, but again, who?cael will upgrade if the chance presents itself, see rocco welsh, coming in to unseat zach ryder
Of course, but again, who?cael will upgrade if the chance presents itself, see rocco welsh, coming in to unseat zach ryder
He could definitely add some muscle by hitting the weights, but Cael.has never been a proponent of muscle bound wrestlers. See ole "noodle arms" Nickal as an example.People just can't put on good weight at will. He had 2 years to put on weight, this may be as heavy as he can get.
Will see who enters portal in apripOf course, but again, who?
This. PJ isn’t going to RS, at least not at this point. Maybe Cael subtly convinces him over the next 6 months, but I wouldn’t count on it.Man, I just don't see Duke redshirting.
I posted this about 10 posts above yours so it’s not really an off the wall take. Those 10 are going most likely.Just to be an oddball I'll throw this one on here:
125 Lilledahl
133 Blaze
141 Ono
149 Van Ness
157 Kasak
165 Duke
174 Messenbrink
184 Welsh
197 Barr
285 Mirasola
If it's this linesup I'm already calling 10 in the NCAA finals
Agreed. This is also a plausible scenario. PJ could well take his shot at MM and then see what they lay of the land is.He isn't cutting to 157 again. Wrestle off against Messenbrink, bump to 174 or RS.
I think he RS and the winner between James and Henckel wrestles 174.
If he can't make 157, is he going to go up to 174??This. PJ isn’t going to RS, at least not at this point. Maybe Cael subtly convinces him over the next 6 months, but I wouldn’t count on it.
If PJ wants to go, it will happen and “the kids will figure it out,” as a coach near and dear to most on this board has said a time or two.
As I said. If you can't see a top 5 hwt in Mirasola next year, wellA top 8 hwt
Stanich would fit nicely at 141Cael always tends to get a transfer
Something to think about
He will upgrade if a lesser weight has a better option available
This is a great point, makes sense how hard Cael went after Ross just not a lot of elite heavies right now.For the folks who think we're gonna import a HWT, 15 guys finished same or higher than Mirasola.
Of them, 7 are SRs: Bastida, Trumble, Ghadiali, Doucet, Szuba, Mora, Catka. (Cole beat the last 2.)
That leaves: Ford Focus (lol), Kueter, Carroll, Amos, Pitzer, Colbert, Hopke, and Feldman. Of these 8 guys, who is leaving? Cole beat 4 of them this year and is better than Pitzer and Hopke.
The best HWT shirts by far are ISU's Herrera (22-15 NQ last year), Michigan's Sahakian (0-0 true FR), and Arizona State's Whitehead (0-0 true FR).
Throw in Taylor if you think he'll leave Lehigh, but he lost in Round 1 as the 6 seed, then got knocked out by an injured Feldman.
We're not looking at anybody else who finished below Cole, right?
So that leaves Josh Barr as the only viable HWT import.
And Ross doesn't beat Cole for at least 2 years.This is a great point, makes sense how hard Cael went after Ross just not a lot of elite heavies right now.
He went after Ross as a matter of talent accumulation. IIRC Ross has yet to beat either twin, so it wasn't a matter of trying to find an immediate starter.This is a great point, makes sense how hard Cael went after Ross just not a lot of elite heavies right now.
That's mine if the Mirasola's stay.125 - Lilledahl
133 - Desmond
141 - Ono (Blaze RS)
149 - Van Ness
157 - Kasak
165 - Messenbrink (Duke RS)
174 - Henckel
184 - Welsh
197 - Barr
285 - Mirasola
I think blaze goes 133 againThat's mine if the Mirasola's stay.
Full court press on Tazhudinov!!!!!Any guys from other countries ? Lol
What do you have welsh doing?I wanted to wait until after the season officially ended:
125 LL - one more year until Sidun arrives, or 2 more years if he can make it comfortably to RS Sidun
133 Desmond - they said he'll never make 25 again so excited for him at 33 and Blaze Rs
141 Ono - hopefully over a year in the room will have him ready to wrestle on the mat, he'll be a force on his feet
149 SVN - one more year to get to the top of the podium, another year getting better
157 Kasak - slots back in
165 MM - Duke RS
174 Henckel
184 Cunningham - from what I heard from an extremely reliable source, he could have started this year, but it was already decided on a RS
197 Barr
285 Mirasola - I never thought his wrestling was the problem, but another year of putting on good weight and getting stronger and hes an AA
184: Welsh beat Cunningham 13-5 at Black Knight invite. Perhaps gap closedI wanted to wait until after the season officially ended:
125 LL - one more year until Sidun arrives, or 2 more years if he can make it comfortably to RS Sidun
133 Desmond - they said he'll never make 25 again so excited for him at 33 and Blaze Rs
141 Ono - hopefully over a year in the room will have him ready to wrestle on the mat, he'll be a force on his feet
149 SVN - one more year to get to the top of the podium, another year getting better
157 Kasak - slots back in
165 MM - Duke RS
174 Henckel
184 Cunningham - from what I heard from an extremely reliable source, he could have started this year, but it was already decided on a RS
197 Barr
285 Mirasola - I never thought his wrestling was the problem, but another year of putting on good weight and getting stronger and hes an AA
The Raneys don’t fit given same weights as Jax and VegaOkie State will be knocking. Four outstanding freshmen this year and four more coming in. Not sure where the Rainy brothers fit, though… PSU needs some competition otherwise they just compete against themselves which is fine and what they’ve done the last 3-4 yrs. Mirasola will be on the Cassar diet. He’ll be bulky next year.
I think he put on around five pounds from last year. Slow and steady increase will make a differencePeople just can't put on good weight at will. He had 2 years to put on weight, this may be as heavy as he can get.
Maybe started for another team.I wanted to wait until after the season officially ended:
125 LL - one more year until Sidun arrives, or 2 more years if he can make it comfortably to RS Sidun
133 Desmond - they said he'll never make 25 again so excited for him at 33 and Blaze Rs
141 Ono - hopefully over a year in the room will have him ready to wrestle on the mat, he'll be a force on his feet
149 SVN - one more year to get to the top of the podium, another year getting better
157 Kasak - slots back in
165 MM - Duke RS
174 Henckel
184 Cunningham - from what I heard from an extremely reliable source, he could have started this year, but it was already decided on a RS
197 Barr
285 Mirasola - I never thought his wrestling was the problem, but another year of putting on good weight and getting stronger and hes an AA
Or Aaron "I've never lifted weights" Brooks?He could definitely add some muscle by hitting the weights, but Cael.has never been a proponent of muscle bound wrestlers. See ole "noodle arms" Nickal as an example.
Jax’s length is a major problem. Have no idea how he makes 133. Same thing with Vega. His length advantage is insane. How does he make 141?Would love to see Ono vs. Jax at some point next season
While moving away from his Olympic weight might not be ideal for Mitchell, I think he might need to do so just to find a new group of wrestlers to compete against (and beat up on - in a good way).I posted this about 10 posts above yours so it’s not really an off the wall take. Those 10 are going most likely.
We’d need to check his eligibility status and have some sanctions on Russia lifted but sure, shoot for the moon!Full court press on Tazhudinov!!!!!
Ono 33… bigger/stronger Blaze/Desmond 41 matches my eyeball sense of sizeAs far as that 13-5 Welsh vs Cunningham match, I am sure that Rocco is still the top guy here, but Cyler Sanderson 9 David Taylor 2. That also happened at about the same time in his career also....you never know.
Well Cael actually knowsI'm pretty sure he has a plan
. But no freaking way Ono goes 141
Crazy. Cael staggers his classes better than any coach. Taylor loaded heavy for 2 classes. That looks great some years, but then when you lose all those guys it hurts.Funny to see some of the premature Intermat grave digging. One desperate Buckeye troll - who I guarantee is probably Degaz from their 247 board as his posts on the 2 boards often mimic each other - is comparing recruiting classes when Ok State had to go heavy and we had no real needs. Of course we only have 1 top rated recruit - we are loaded. And that 1 guy is James who is going to blow people’s minds.
Guy knows Tom Ryan can’t beat Cael so he’s relying on Taylor. Shambles!
Mirasola should be a top 8 285 next year, IF he can add some muscle mass while keeping his quickness/agility.A top 8 hwt
One thing, I'm pretty sure Cole won against Ross and Mocco during the freestyle circuit primarily using step outs. I don't know or remember if he took either down, pretty sure mocco actually won the takedown battle maybe? Either way, to me, the heavier the guys get the less useful freestyle results are in judging folkstyle level success. Generally speaking that is.The Raneys don’t fit given same weights as Jax and Vega
Ross is a stud but last summer Cole handled him twice in freestyle
other guy is “only” #11, who might be replacement for 125 when Spratley leaves
PSU is knocking, James coming in next year and in 2027 have a great class lined up in lower/middle weights which will fit like a glove
Ono will wrestle 133, Desmond 141.I wanted to wait until after the season officially ended:
125 LL - one more year until Sidun arrives, or 2 more years if he can make it comfortably to RS Sidun
133 Desmond - they said he'll never make 25 again so excited for him at 33 and Blaze Rs
141 Ono - hopefully over a year in the room will have him ready to wrestle on the mat, he'll be a force on his feet
149 SVN - one more year to get to the top of the podium, another year getting better
157 Kasak - slots back in
165 MM - Duke RS
174 Henckel
184 Cunningham - from what I heard from an extremely reliable source, he could have started this year, but it was already decided on a RS
197 Barr
285 Mirasola - I never thought his wrestling was the problem, but another year of putting on good weight and getting stronger and hes an AA
I think if Desmond can put on decent weight and walk around at about 145, he should do great at 141. Don't think Cunningham beats Welsh.Ono will wrestle 133, Desmond 141.
174 is a mixture of Henckel, Duke and James
184 Cunningham is a much stronger possibility than most realize, but he wasn't replacing Welsh this year.
Cole seems to be one of those guys that just can't gain weight been there 2 yrs now just seems odd if he can't get bigger it be hard at heavy for him!Since the discussions about next season are already starting in several NCAA threads, and in order to hopefully consolidate those discussions and prevent the threads from derailing, might as well start this.
Who's gonna start at 25/33/41 next season between Luke, Marcus, Ono, Desmond, Davis?
Does Davis get his RS finally? Does he return?
Can Cole get bigger/stronger for HWT? Does Connor see the lineup?
I see it:
Luke
Desmond
Ono (or reverse the above)
SVN
Kasak
Mess
Henckel
Rocco
Barr
Cole