Yes, message board or not, The Rock’s fixation on next year’s maximum points seems, dare I say, pointless.
EARLY 2026-27 lineup projections/discussions
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LOL yep, it was training. With the stories on Nicky six pack, I'm certain he was down there doing something.He was on crutches at the time. Maybe he was doing pull ups
If Sealy isn't in the portal on Wednesday, then he'll certainly get a shot to challenge Kasak for 157. I don't really like his odds, but everyone gets their shot, and Sealy is certainly no pushover, so we'll see.
I feel like he's going to want to shoot his shot somewhere and not wait for possibly one year as a starter after Kasak graduates (and have to hold 157 that whole time, too, if the plan is for Duke to slot in at 165 after MM leaves), so portalling would not surprise me at all. I wouldn't blame him, either. He's too good to be a career room guy, so unless he's happy with the freestyle training he's getting and thinks he can make a bigger mark in international freestyle than NCAA folkstyle, there's no real reason to stay.
we will never know just pointing out guys do things for the team!Could have won the position at 184? Ruth was pretty good.
Come on guys, 13 pages and we still haven't put together next year's lineup.
Cael is counting on us to solve this problem.
Cael is counting on us to solve this problem.
A bunch of old guys on a message board know far better than the greatest wrestler and coach in the history of the sport. Write that down.
He is a much better freestyler so if he has Olympic aspirations staying put makes sense. He seems to really enjoy it at PSU. Sometimes there is more than starting all 4 years but I wouldn’t blame him if he left. He’s definitely AA caliber right now
According to Jason Nolf, Suriano ia a dog on a bone and right up until Cael told him he wasn't going to wrestle he was trying to find a way to push off and defend effectively.He was on crutches at the time. Maybe he was doing pull ups
This ^^^
He does seem happy and I imagine his freestyle aspirations will not be better served elsewhere.
lol I don’t even know what you are saying. I’ve never suggested a method. Weird crowd
I’m not making an argument dummy, I’m just explaining to certain people why some in media are saying Mitch could move up to 174. Quite simply it produces the highest scoring lineup which you acknowledge yourself.
Why does this send people into a hissy fit? It’s a simple statement based on a simple concept. And I’ve never suggested we should do this nor think at this time we will.
Relax
I’m backtracking where?
Hit the like button on my post if you are not low IQ like these guys. LOL
Connor Mirasola? He’s the guy without a clear path to the lineup who has a world medal in freestyle.
I'm bringing up an old message board joke and you're bringing up something to make Cael seem like a liar. Why must you continuously pull these #$%^ moves?
Cael will have his own line of peppermint paddy pizza before we get this right.
It is fun but I suspect Cael had most of the 26-27 lineup in his head 3 years ago.
Frankly I agree. Why are some people acting like a suggestion that a wrestler may change his weight class, is akin to suggesting that he smoke crack? Having MM get the same amount of points at 174 as he did at 165 is definitely an assumption, not a guarantee. He didn't major Hepner at 165 and there's a high likelihood he'll encounter stronger wrestlers than that at 174. IMO a 165 MM scores more bonus than a 174 MM. I thought the word was Duke had a tough cut? I could see that given some gas tank issues, albeit minor. Seems Duke would benefit from going up like Haines did. They'll sort this out for sure, but IF Henckel is as good as I suspect a think a RS for Duke would be ideal. Of course the wrestlers have to buy in. First world issues for sure.
Yes I think Duke will red shirt. I believe the Hepner match was just oddity. You are right it’s an assumption though. I believe he wins and might have a few less bonus matches. But that’s around 2-3 points.
But if Duke didn’t RS I think he’s getting 20-25 points at 165. Henckel can get a very high podium and could actually make the Final if he gets the right type of path. But ultimately on average I think he scores around 10 points less than Duke.
When a fellow officer I worked with used to see some large guy bent over showing a little too much gluteus maximus he'd say, "That guy needs to be arrested for possession of crack." : )
He wrestled 2023-2024 as a true freshman and 2024-2025 as a true sophomore. He redshirted this year. He has 2 years left.
That was a joke as well at the time . Guess you don't remember that
Jax and Vega yes. The other 2 not so much.
I, like most here, am very much biased. That said, Cael and PSU have proven that when a guy is a finalist, he doesn't regress to not being a finalist the next year. I'm trying to think of the PSU guys who were finalists and then the next didn't make it back the next year. I'm sure there are a few but I'm also positive the % of PSU finalists that return to the finals is absurdly high. Taylor and Ok State may very well have that same level of consistency going for them but it's too early to give them the benefit of the doubt. That and Robideau even making the finals required some...luck. Merrill with his "style" will always be highly susceptible to being upset. I could see him back in the finals though. Unless a guy like Sinclair goes up to 197 or Rademacher makes a folkstyle jump like he did in freestyle last year.
Welsh would be the least likely repeat finalist but bet against him winning a vast majority of tight matches at your own peril.
* Anyone feel free to name the finalists that didn't return because now I want to know and don't have time to dig into it currently.
Levi Haines
Max Dean
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I am a fan but fairly new to the message board. It is fascinating and confusing as hell to try and follow all the old stuff [3+ years ago] or the guys on the bench [Sealy Henckel, etc.] I have three questions.
I was under the impression that Ono was all world [yea I know he really was] but in watching his you tube videos he seems to be lightning quick with what I'll call an ankle pick and then rolling guys over which I guess is a point in freestyle. [freestyle has no up or down positions?] Question 1: for those who are familiar with what is going on in the room, how is his wrestling transferring to folkstyle? I presume he works out with Blaze, Desmond etc. How does he compare? Question 2: I thought Mendez was unstoppable until Vega beat him. That did not look like a fluke aka. PJ's loss. So if Vega goes to 149 is he an immediate favorite over SVN? Finally, why is there so little love for Bo Basset? Jax looked really good to me and then someone posted a video of Basett bixxtch slapping Jax in HS. Also what is the backstory for why he isn't at PSU. It looks like he committed to Iowa and then transferred to Va Tech.
I was under the impression that Ono was all world [yea I know he really was] but in watching his you tube videos he seems to be lightning quick with what I'll call an ankle pick and then rolling guys over which I guess is a point in freestyle. [freestyle has no up or down positions?] Question 1: for those who are familiar with what is going on in the room, how is his wrestling transferring to folkstyle? I presume he works out with Blaze, Desmond etc. How does he compare? Question 2: I thought Mendez was unstoppable until Vega beat him. That did not look like a fluke aka. PJ's loss. So if Vega goes to 149 is he an immediate favorite over SVN? Finally, why is there so little love for Bo Basset? Jax looked really good to me and then someone posted a video of Basett bixxtch slapping Jax in HS. Also what is the backstory for why he isn't at PSU. It looks like he committed to Iowa and then transferred to Va Tech.
Damnit how did I not remember that one
Alright there's one. And he went up two weight classes and "merely" took 3rd.
Penn State wrestling 2026-2027 pre-portal lineup projection: Breaking down 165-285 pounds
Penn State wrestling will have at least one new starter in the backhalf of its lineup during the 2026-2027 season.
Not certain he'll reach the finals, but Rocco is among that group of 4 that is just better than everybody else. I'm not sure I can say the same thing for Van Ness next year. His best shot to win an individual title was this season.
Max Dean won then came in 7th the next season.