Eddie Gran Women's Clinic Joke

[Blueaz]

If you think that joke was "poor taste" then don't go into comedy clubs in Los Angeles. I have and if you think what Gran said was bad..... You have something special coming.

Wow. It was a bad (not funny) joke... And in poor taste if was a women's group. In a comedy club with good delivery it might be funny
But it's not the big deal you are making it out to be.
Just be because someone doesn't share your sense of humor or opinion doesn't make them a ***** or pussified.
BTW. Comedians always say "you've got to know your crowd."

 

[ZZZZCat]

The only thing I'm mad about is not understanding the joke

 

[ok-cats-computer]

That was a bad joke, but it doesn't make me cringe as much as subtweeting a teenager with a Faust quote. These guys are off to a bad start on the PR front.

 

[TeoJ]

Who's gonna make me a sandwich ?

That'she just wrong.

 

[ukalumni00]

Bad joke and not appropriate for kind of audience in the room. I am sure some were offended and others moved on from it. I just do not understand why a KSR person felt the need to immediately tweet it out to the masses. Boo him and all and let folks talk amongst themselves. Just think some things need to stay in the room like they used to before Twitter, FB, etc. and let it be. All that tweet did was bring bad press to a coach and program who really needs all the support they can get right now.

 

[Chuckinden]

Silly thread.

 

[merrimanm]

Bad joke and not appropriate for kind of audience in the room. I am sure some were offended and others moved on from it. I just do not understand why a KSR person felt the need to immediately tweet it out to the masses. Boo him and all and let folks talk amongst themselves. Just think some things need to stay in the room like they used to before Twitter, FB, etc. and let it be. All that tweet did was bring bad press to a coach and program who really needs all the support they can get right now.

Matt Jones is the leader of spreading hate to the football program. If I were Stoops, I would not allow him, or his crew, access to the program. There is a reason I don't go to KSR.

 

[TuckyFB]

Matt Jones is the leader of spreading hate to the football program. If I were Stoops, I would not allow him, or his crew, access to the program. There is a reason I don't go to KSR.

exception of Freddie Maggard.

I like him.

 

[Rockford]

Every public speaker needs to know the audience when they are speaking.

How Gran thought that audience would find that joke funny is beyond me.

I find him guilty of poor comedic judgement. I guess he's gonna have to make this football coaching thing work out for him.

 

[anon_7tbtqcx308nxh]

Every public speaker needs to know the audience when they are speaking.

How Gran thought that audience would find that joke funny is beyond me.

I find him guilty of poor comedic judgement. I guess he's gonna have to make this football coaching thing work out for him.

Exactly. Know your audience, and if you are going to toe the line of being offensive, you better be funny. What Hinshaw says to 20 year-old males, repeated by Gran to adult women, is probably not going to get a laugh.

 

[STUCKNBIG10]

If you think that joke was "poor taste" then don't go into comedy clubs in Los Angeles. I have and if you think what Gran said was bad..... You have something special coming.

The point is that it wasn't a comedy club in LA. It was a clinic with a bunch of WOMEN as your audience. Idiotic move by Gran.

 

[STUCKNBIG10]

Glad to see you believe yourself to be familiar with the inner workings of KSR. Unfortunately you are incorrect. I review none of the daily work on the site before its posted now and instead leave it up to Drew and Tyler who I trust as the Editors. In this case, I didnt see the tweet or post before it was posted but I totally support them acknowledging it. The comment drew boos and was by a coach at a Womens Clinic. It is worth noting.

You can't have it both ways....either its no big deal or "KSR always posts things that are negative." IT can't be both. If its no big deal, then its not negative. If it is negative, then you acknowledge its a deal.

My opinion (which is worth no more than anyone else's) is that Gran made a mistake with the joke, made even worse by the audience. Some in the audience didnt mind and some really didnt like it. Knowing that possibility, an event designed to grow football interest for women was probably a poor place to say it. It isn't however (in my view) a massive deal but rather a simple mistake

One last thing about people who get upset and say "lighten up" about jokes that offend others. If you truly take the position that nothing should offend, then I can respect that and in some ways I agree with you. People do get to offended easily in my view now so there is validity to that point. But often the same people who say "lighten up" get very offended when the butt of the joke is a group of viewpoint that they happen to be a part of. I often see the same people who say lighten up get REALLY mad at me for a comment I may make (like a joke at the expense of UK FB in the case of the commenter above). Either you think people shouldn't get offended or you don't...its kind of hypocritical to tell others not to get offended, when the jokes that hit close to home to you make you mad.

Hopefully we win 6 and make a bowl and no one even remembers this ever happened

Nice reply, Matt. Agree, though I'm sure some of these same goons will blast you for your opinion regardless of what you actually said.

 

[fcats]

Why several posters on this board are blaming Matt Jones for a stupid and idiotic statement by Gran is beyond me. Hopefully, his play calling won't be as brain dead as his speech before the female audience was. Gran deserves to be blasted and this board would go nuts if an U of L assistant coach would make such an insulting joke.

 

[Chuckinden]

Matt Jones is the leader of spreading hate to the football program. If I were Stoops, I would not allow him, or his crew, access to the program. There is a reason I don't go to KSR.

Are you serious Clark?

 

[JasonS.]

That was a bad joke, but it doesn't make me cringe as much as subtweeting a teenager with a Faust quote. These guys are off to a bad start on the PR front.

Yep. Beyond Gran and Hinshaw, we're in Year Four and I think the next Stoops' staff interaction with the fans/media to give people a whole lot of confidence will be the first one. Defensiveness and unforced errors is the SOP.

Shannon Dawson was probably the best of the lot last summer, before actual play started and he went into hyper-defensive mode. Ultimately, I don't know how much it matters (Nick Saban is horrible at this stuff ...), but it's not great.

 

[BigBluePhantom]

I am just full of opinions on this one.

What was Gran thinking? Probably his first women's clinic and he tried to relate football to something they are familiar with. Well...he succeeded but learned a lesson in what not to do in the process.

Nothing that deserves more than an eyeroll imo. However, in this super sensitive time, many companies would fire you over such a comment. This actually says more about our society than it does the person who made the joke in bad taste imo. Still, you have to be aware of what is taboo and very aware when you are in the spotlight.

KSR...I'm a big fan, However, I would like to see them bury such an insignificant story that has so much potential to blow up and hurt the program. Don't get me wrong, I am not advocating them mimic the Louisville press and sweep everything under the rug. Just merely weigh the potential damage this type story could cause the program against the overall benefit to be gained by KSR, the players, school or anybody else. In this case, I see very little benefit for anybody.

 

[Mojocat_rivals48469]

The comment drew boos and was by a coach at a Womens Clinic. It is worth noting.

You take a lot of unnecessary crap, it seems to me, about a lot of things including, especially, being "anti-UK football." I am generally sympathetic about that. But have to disagree on this one. My first thought when seeing the initial post at KSR was "man, Gran must have gotten off on the wrong foot with someone at KSR". I go back today to see it was referenced 2 or 3 more times on the site, and so now I'm thinking "KSR declares war on Eddie Gran."

I don't think anyone wants Pravda style coverage of UK sports. If someone screws up, if bad stuff happens, we'd rather know about it. Some schools would rather have head in sand. But that doesn't mean every little thing needs publicity. If someone on the team has body odor or bad breath, I wouldn't think it deserves a post. This comment - which was stupid, insensitive and makes one assume that Gran is utterly incapable of knowing his audience - is a lot closer to bad breath than it is a possible rules violation, NCAA snooping around, or some other kind of bad news which should be reported. I have no trouble believing that the reaction Gran got from that crowd, both immediately and for the rest of the day, was punishment enough...... Not sure what the goal is with the initial report or, especially, the repeated reference - to hurt someone or something is a reasonable conclusion.......

 

[merrimanm]

Are you serious Clark?

Very!!

 

[RV]

Frankly my dear ...

 

[HCaulfield]

Why several posters on this board are blaming Matt Jones for a stupid and idiotic statement by Gran is beyond me. Hopefully, his play calling won't be as brain dead as his speech before the female audience was. Gran deserves to be blasted and this board would go nuts if an U of L assistant coach would make such an insulting joke.

Well said.

 

[dustarm20]

Knowing someone who went, she said the "boos" were in jest and pretty much all those who were in attendance didn't care about the comment. It's funny that there are guys who are saying it was "in bad taste" or "offensive" when I'm sure many women just don't care. Gran was basing a joke on the natural, normal female monthly cycle. It's not a taboo subject, just something guys don't like to talk about. I told my fiance the joke, she thought it was kinda funny. I just don't understand why there is even any kind of outrage by men on here when the gender that the joke was about is not outraged. To those guys who are supposedly offended, find something to get mad at that's actually important.

 

[TuckyFB]

Knowing someone who went, she said the "boos" were in jest and pretty much all those who were in attendance didn't care about the comment. It's funny that there are guys who are saying it was "in bad taste" or "offensive" when I'm sure many women just don't care. Gran was basing a joke on the natural, normal female monthly cycle. It's not a taboo subject, just something guys don't like to talk about. I told my fiance the joke, she thought it was kinda funny. I just don't understand why there is even any kind of outrage by men on here when the gender that the joke was about is not outraged. To those guys who are supposedly offended, find something to get mad at that's actually important.

because KSR....
It's now on 247's front page.

 

[JBHolmesfan]

If you think that joke was "poor taste" then don't go into comedy clubs in Los Angeles. I have and if you think what Gran said was bad..... You have something special coming.

When you go into a comedy club in LA you know the environment in which you are entering. A women's football clinic is a far different atmosphere from a comedy club. I'm not going to pretend to be offended, but language that is suitable in one environment is not necessarily suitable in another.

It was a bad joke. I'm not offended that he said it, although it was a stupid thing to say. Did he think that was going to get a laugh? The joke was A) not funny to begin with and B) told to a room full of women.

 

[3kidsandme]

We have a real OC finally! After he gets 30 ppg out of this offense he can come to my house with my mom and 4 sisters and tell them period jokes all week. The joke was not bad at all its a period woopty woop.

 

[Jkwo_rivals113955]

Gran deserves to be blasted and this board would go nuts if an U of L assistant coach would make such an insulting joke.

I'm sure many people would snicker at how dumb and ill-timed the joke was, but if you're actually offended by it, you're a (TRIGGER WARNING: REFERENCE TO SENSITIVE ANATOMICAL REGION) numbnuts.

If a woman made a pun to a room full of guys about ED, wet dreams, firing blanks, etc - the types of things that guys can be sensitive about - nobody would make a big fuss about it, because men in our society are (rightly) treated like grown adults who can deal with a mildly insensitive remark.

This miserable trend of treating grown women with kiddie gloves, acting like they need to be fiercely defended from many behaviors that are mildly annoying at worst ("man spreading", "man splaining", the sexism of office air conditioners, the sexism of phones that are too large.. seriously, google this ish. It's absolutely ridiculous)...

..it's patronizing, and ironically, it's mostly propagated by feminists in this day and age. This runs in stark contrast to their original notion of having "all the rights and responsibilities of men".

Most of these women apparently weren't offended, why? Because they're adults. He didn't make a damn dead baby joke. He didn't make light of the holocaust.

If your emotional state is compromised by a remark on the level that a 12 year old boy is expected to shrug off, then you're not treating yourself like an adult. Period. Pun intended.




Look, the joke wasn't funny. There's nothing clever or amusing about saying that we have 13 periods and women only have 1. There's literally no punchline. It sounds like an attempt at a joke by someone who is just learning the English language.

He also should've guessed that the joke wouldn't be popular to that crowd.

But if you're actually offended by it, then you're just showing your colors as an embarrassing SJW who just scans for keywords to be offended by.

Go join the teachers in Seattle who banned the term "brown bag lunch" from their school district because they felt it to be racially provocative.
Go join the numbskulls who want books from the turn of the century removed from the school libraries because kids might be exposed to the horror of learning about inequalities of the past and reading about slavery in a non-sterile-textbook fashion.

We've got real, actual discrimination and issues in the world, and this deserves to get someone "blasted"? Grow a pair. Damn.

 

[Soupbean]

Glad to see you believe yourself to be familiar with the inner workings of KSR. Unfortunately you are incorrect. I review none of the daily work on the site before its posted now and instead leave it up to Drew and Tyler who I trust as the Editors. In this case, I didnt see the tweet or post before it was posted but I totally support them acknowledging it. The comment drew boos and was by a coach at a Womens Clinic. It is worth noting.

You can't have it both ways....either its no big deal or "KSR always posts things that are negative." IT can't be both. If its no big deal, then its not negative. If it is negative, then you acknowledge its a deal.

My opinion (which is worth no more than anyone else's) is that Gran made a mistake with the joke, made even worse by the audience. Some in the audience didnt mind and some really didnt like it. Knowing that possibility, an event designed to grow football interest for women was probably a poor place to say it. It isn't however (in my view) a massive deal but rather a simple mistake

One last thing about people who get upset and say "lighten up" about jokes that offend others. If you truly take the position that nothing should offend, then I can respect that and in some ways I agree with you. People do get to offended easily in my view now so there is validity to that point. But often the same people who say "lighten up" get very offended when the butt of the joke is a group of viewpoint that they happen to be a part of. I often see the same people who say lighten up get REALLY mad at me for a comment I may make (like a joke at the expense of UK FB in the case of the commenter above). Either you think people shouldn't get offended or you don't...its kind of hypocritical to tell others not to get offended, when the jokes that hit close to home to you make you mad.

Hopefully we win 6 and make a bowl and no one even remembers this ever happened

I don't disagree with a lot of what you say Matt but except on this point. . . .

"You can't have it both ways....either its no big deal or "KSR always posts things that are negative." IT can't be both. If its no big deal, then its not negative. If it is negative, then you acknowledge its a deal."

What you're missing here is something can be relatively innocent and no big deal until it is brought up on a nationally prominent web site at which point it can be perceived as a bigger deal than it actually was. I think that is why some are disappointed it was reported there. It would have been different if it had become the talk of town and then commented on on your site.

I know you're guys are going to "talk out loud" on everything they experience and pass it along and that's fine, but you have to acknowledge the point that others may feel that can sometimes be a negative in some situations from a fan point of view.

 

[TBCat]

Why several posters on this board are blaming Matt Jones for a stupid and idiotic statement by Gran is beyond me. Hopefully, his play calling won't be as brain dead as his speech before the female audience was. Gran deserves to be blasted and this board would go nuts if an U of L assistant coach would make such an insulting joke.

It was a bad joke. It's ridiculous to blast him for a single joke, even a bad one. And there's no comparison between a UK assistant and a UL assistant. Yes we would treat a UL assistant harsher but there's a reason for that. If you need further explanation as to why just review the headlines over the past couple years or so. THere is a behavioral trend at UL that must be acknowledged. It's not fair to hold UK coaches to the same level of criticism when our coaches haven't accumulated the history that UL coaches have.

 

[Mike-D]

Matt Jones is the leader of spreading hate to the football program. If I were Stoops, I would not allow him, or his crew, access to the program. There is a reason I don't go to KSR.

[roll]

 

[ThwKentuckyKid]

Feminist women love Eddie Gran.

 

[Jkwo_rivals113955]

Feminist women love Eddie Gran.

Well, you know what they say Bubs. Beauty is in the eye when you hold her. He loves football and he loves the ladies - I think he was just trying to get two birds stoned at once.

 

[jauk11]

Every public speaker needs to know the audience when they are speaking.

How Gran thought that audience would find that joke funny is beyond me.

I find him guilty of poor comedic judgement. I guess he's gonna have to make this football coaching thing work out for him.

Yeah, I don't think he is going to make it on the comedy hour, but hopefully he is pretty good at coaching.

I have stayed away from this thread because I think it it would be best if everyone just let it die out.

 

[CatFromDaHood]

Why several posters on this board are blaming Matt Jones for a stupid and idiotic statement by Gran is beyond me. Hopefully, his play calling won't be as brain dead as his speech before the female audience was. Gran deserves to be blasted and this board would go nuts if an U of L assistant coach would make such an insulting joke.

Exactly.......

 

[rye48]

Agree 100%!!!

nope not really!

 

[tmuck]

Exactly.......

notch8, it's no surprise that you would like one of your fellow UL trolls posts

 

[ORCAT]

Blown way out of proportion is what I go with. My wife was at the clinic and though she was a bit surprised at the joke he chose to offer in front of women she wasn't offended and just took it as coming from a football coach and nothing more.

 

[UKWildcats#8]

This isn't a huge deal and won't be a huge deal no matter it being reported, which it should have been, as in today's media and social media age it is going to be reported. I see all kinds of trivial stuff like this reported on teams I follow. It's newsworthy, but will be forgotten in no time.

And I always chuckle at the KSR haters. I think the football only fans have went from blaming the b-ball program to footballs issues to Matt Jones. Jones has made it in the world.

 

[shutzhund]

Hope he is a better coach than comedian. Hell's fire, he'd have to be.