You spoiled it. The sad part of it is, we don’t need to make a parody of the situation; it already passed Jordan Ash as the longest running debate in Wildcat Report history.
long live the third string saviors whether AM in football or MN in BBall.
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long live the third string saviors whether AM in football or MN in BBall.
I’ll say this: In the same way Andrew Marty was perhaps the best I’ve ever seen at trotting off the field post-interception, Nicholson seems to keep a pretty good head after a ticky-tack foul.
and there it is again.
No one has ever said that Matt Nicholson should play ahead of Ryan Young, let alone that he is the savior of the team.
PPD is the king of distortion.
I can't imagine a presser with real questions. CC was so visibly annoyed by the end of the season last year. And the questions were all very facile
I just happy I got you to both put away your line up calculator and to respond without your MN complaint. Progress White Boy.
It will just be a different name then. There is always some kid who if he only played more would be the difference
That doesn’t mean he would do that every game. Maybe that was his Falzon moment…
I’ve got nothing against MN getting some more pt. Not like it’s going to cost us a tourney spot. But the idea that he’s our savior is frankly ridiculous. He’s got 11 pts in big ten games and 9 fouls.
Jordan Ash was hyped by one, and ONLY one, poster. Not a debate but rather a multi-year spam bait. Kind of like the flat earth and the Fake by the Lake spamming.
Except that a critical part of the "Shaq attack" was that Shaq had difficulty hitting FTs (I think he was about 40% or less or less while edey is about 64%) And one of the reasons we were still in the game is Purdue was not in the bonus in first half and only in the last couple minutes in the second. If we used him for 5 fouls, that would have changed quickly
Like those people who Jesus in a piece of burnt toast, a desperate and disillusioned fan base will seek salvation at the end of the bench. It’s the human condition.
Falzon had 18 minutes all season, had his ‘Falzon moment’, and then became a 15-18 minute rotation staple even as it took him EIGHT MORE GAMES to equal the 21 points he scored. Four star recruit tho.
Nobody is saying he’s our savior. Nobody. They’re saying he can be effective against a 7’5” monster and has some skills our other centers don’t have. Also the people constantly referencing the 3 quick fouls he got against the Illini don’t seem to mention that two were incredibly questionable including a totally clean block and literally a phantom call.
Even in the Michigan State game he had 4 fouls. He should see more on court time, but as I said in another thread his time would likely be self limiting
He’s got four assists in 26 minutes of B1G play, versus six in 357 minutes for Beran, 7 in 163 minutes for Williams, or eight in 297 minutes for Berry.
Offensively, Nicholson clearly has good vision and moves very well on the perimeter.
Edey had two points and two rebounds in the game-turning 2nd half. In fact, he only played three of the last 14 minutes of the game. So, as has been said before, Edey clearly was not the primary reason the Cats blew that one.
I don't know about your basketball world, but I don't see a whole lot of teams who win with 28% from 3. Maybe ... just maybe, that had something to do with the loss.
As usual, there were a few reasons NU bombed against Purdue, however, Edey was lower on the list.
I don't know about your basketball world, but I don't see a whole lot of teams who win with 28% from 3. Maybe ... just maybe, that had something to do with the loss.
As usual, there were a few reasons NU bombed against Purdue, however, Edey was lower on the list.
Size and the ability to dunk with ease. As much as I love Young he simply can’t do that. Neither does Nance in the post. He has to do it off a drive.
Well someone or two said that NU wouldn't have won the MSU game without Nicholson.
Only because Ash transferred and therefore was not the undisputed king
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And 28% is an improvement over a number of games. And yet we have one of the higher 3pt %s in the league. Interesting that we only took 21 in the game (we tend to usually be closer to 30). Of course Audige only took one and 3 shots overall. (missed all three)
Serious answer.
He is the only player on our roster who can defend a 7' 250 lbs center AND dunk the basketball.
Pretty obvious, no?
I would say from a size standpoint he matches up the best in those circumstances compared to nance or young. The “defend” part depends on your definition. Rapidly picking up fouls isn‘t necessarily defending or at least defending well.
A couple years back you could make the same statements about B Benson.
Love to see the kid start getting some more minutes so we can get a better feel for if he’s a benson type player or something more.
I see us 11th in the Big Ten in 3FG% games against conference opponents. 32.9%.
We are also 11th in 3FG% defensively. 36.7%
We are dead last in overall FG% at 40.9%
We are 8th in overall FG% defensively at 44.5%
So we are weaker in making 2 point shots than the rest of the league.
We are relatively weak at defending 3 pointers, not so bad at defending 2 pointers.
In fact the 5 worst in defending the 3 are MD, NU, PSU, NEB, MIN, in that order.
What is your basis on “rapidly picking up fouls”. The Illini game was the only one that happened and anyone who was there or watching knows that one was literally a phantom call where he didn’t even touch the guy and the other was a clean block. Such bizarre hatred for a guy who helped us win the only game we really weren’t supposed to.
I think you might be confusing two games.
To be fair, he got two fouls quickly against Wisconsin.
One was an awesome rejection of Crowl.
The other was a garbage ticky tack reach in 25 feet from the basket. Ref was hallucinating.
Against Illinois he got three fouls trying to guard Cockburn. Actually trying to guard him - no matador style Pete Nance stuff. One of those foul calls was garbage. One time Cockburn beat him cleanly. But if you're going to foul anybody in the Big Ten down by the basket, Cockburn is the #1 guy to foul. Nicholson also ran the floor, got fouled by Cockburn and made both free throws.
Kind of confirms two things I disagree with a lot of folks here with:
1) No, it’s not that we just can’t make shots. It’s that we can’t get good shots
2) Our offensive schemes are out of whack with our strengths and do not produce as many good shots they should
3) While our defense overall is decent, our help defense and rotations are mediocre. And Beran is not the great defender some believe, that’s where it often breaks
He played 13 mins in the Sparty game, his “best“ game of the year and had 4 fouls.
Wisky 2 mins and 2 fouls. Illinois 2 mins and 3 fouls.
What‘s your definition of rapid?
Where do I hate the guy? I’ve said he should get more playing time. Can’t hurt. But this idea that he‘s the missing link for our team is pretty absurd. He had a total of 11 pts and 9 fouls in big 10 play going into today’s game.
Fouls don‘t just hurt the player, the other team getting more chances at the line usually isn‘t a good thing unless like me you‘re hoping for a free chicken sandwich
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So many bad players get minutes. There are so few good players. Why not figure out if Nicholson is also bad?