Eichosrt letter

Harry Caray

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Reeks of desperation. There was a whole paragraph there defending himself that sounded like a cover letter for a job - "I have worked for 2 decades at 5 schools with all these talented people".

He also lost me talking about rebuilding one brick at a time. He never said this was a rebuilding project when he fired the last coach. In fact he said "I think we have the kids in our program that are capable of winning championships". Now it's a complete rebuild?
 

HuskerTimOmaha

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In fact he said "I think we have the kids in our program that are capable of winning championships"

He said kids in our program, not the kids in our program. Although one may say that's minor, it's not as it makes a difference.

Here's the actual transcript
On if the team has the talent level to compete at a championship level“

That is not my expertise, I would hope we do. I see it from a far. I think our coaches have obviously have seen that and that Is why they brought these young men into our program. At the end of the day, I think we have kids in our program that are capable of winning championships.”

Coincidentally, you left out the underline part.
 

mel mains

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He said kids in our program, not the kids in our program. Although one may say that's minor, it's not as it makes a difference.

Here's the actual transcript
On if the team has the talent level to compete at a championship level“

That is not my expertise, I would hope we do. I see it from a far. I think our coaches have obviously have seen that and that Is why they brought these young men into our program. At the end of the day, I think we have kids in our program that are capable of winning championships.”

Coincidentally, you left out the underline part.
Ironically (or perhaps not so much), you're ignoring that Eichorst is evaluating the talent today by labeling MR's task a rebuilding project - even though it's not his expertise.
 
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HuskerTimOmaha

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Ironically (or perhaps not so much), you're ignoring that Eichorst is evaluating the talent today by labeling MR's task a rebuilding project - even though it's not his expertise.

Ironically (or perhaps not so much), you're assuming Eichorst didn't get that from Riley, or current assistants, or former coaches still around the program, or former players still around the program and/or coaches around the nation.
 

mel mains

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Ironically (or perhaps not so much), you're assuming Eichorst didn't get that from Riley, or current assistants, or former coaches still around the program, or former players still around the program and/or coaches around the nation.
It's Eichorst's letter, and it's his evaluation in it.
 
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jflores

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It's Eichorst's letter, and it's his evaluation in it.

Sure, but its not an uninformed one. Everyone takes input from experts. I've been posting for days all the former great players who are likely in his ear about this not being an immediate fix. The best the other side has come up with is a rant by Philip Dillard.
 

Danimal4NU

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Funny, last year he had a policy to not comment during the season. This is the second time already that he broke his own so called policy. It appears the wheels are coming off the Energy Bus! Husker fans are keeping track, these games do matter.

Nobody should believe a word that comes out of Perlman's politician. The policy obviously never existed. He was just left scrambling when the regent support he wanted in '13 wasn't there, he had to come-up with an excuse for having let the tidal-wave of termination talk negatively affect the program. Of course he knows there are times you may have to intercede during a season, but letting Bo swing in the breeze served his purpose, now he has a different purpose.

Of course Bo was a hot-headed loudmouth, that doesn't mean he didn't have Eichorst pegged.
 

mel mains

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Earth shattering
Tim, your argumentative soul loses this one. I'm not the one making excuses for Mr. Eichorst's pathetic, defensive and revisionist rabble. He owns the firing, his statement then, this staff's hiring, his change in the "no in-season comments" policy, and this latest issued statement. He's a big boy Tim, don't blame Shawn's statements on people telling him things.
 

RK61

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The spin has started. MR did the same thing at the pressed today. Looks like the fan base is turning up the heat.
I believe it has more to do with those people with deep pockets turning up the heat. I'll say one thing about Shawn. When he said 90% of all e-mails and comments were positive. He was not truthful. That says a lot about a person.
 

HuskerTimOmaha

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Tim, your argumentative soul loses this one. I'm not the one making excuses for Mr. Eichorst's pathetic, defensive and revisionist rabble. He owns the firing, his statement then, this staff's hiring, his change in the "no in-season comments" policy, and this latest issued statement. He's a big boy Tim, don't blame Shawn's statements on people telling him things.

There is no argumentative soul, you're looking for something that isn't there. @Harry Caray misquoted him, I corrected him - which isn't the first time for either thing to happen - and here you come in with your lawyer ********, complaining about another lawyer. Nowhere did I blame his statements, keep on assuming though, I'll keep on Laughing, at you.

When he said 90% of all e-mails and comments were positive. He was not truthful. That says a lot about a person.

Proof?

Link?
 

mel mains

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There is no argumentative soul, you're looking for something that isn't there. @Harry Caray misquoted him, I corrected him - which isn't the first time for either thing to happen - and here you come in with your lawyer ********, complaining about another lawyer. Nowhere did I blame his statements, keep on assuming though, I'll keep on Laughing, at you.
Link?

Sure Tim; you simply parsed the article the and emphasized how it made the sentence different. No lawyer would ever do that.
 

HuskerTimOmaha

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Sure Tim; you simply parsed the article the and emphasized how it made the sentence different. No lawyer would ever do that.

One doesn't have to be a lawyer to know one word makes a difference, in any sentence. That **** is taught in 2nd grade.
 

jflores

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I'm not sure how anyone, including the AD, could look at our roster in November of last year and conclude that minus Bell, Abdullah and Gregory, we were a championship level roster.

I always interpreted the "the" issue as Tim does, there are kids on the roster who have the stuff to be a part of a championship squad, not that all the pieces for the championship squad was in place.

But I was also on record as saying we were probably four years from an realistic championship run due to the timing of the coaching change the the QB situation we have. Folks seemed rather incredulous at that timeframe, but they probably aren't any more.
 

Harry Caray

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I misquoted Eichorst (my bad) but it still doesn't change much to me. We have enough good players to not be dead last in the Big Ten. If someone would have told me before the season that, even with the injuries, we would be 3-6 right now....I wouldn't have believed it in a million years. Riley was gifted an ideal schedule for a rebuilding/transition year. All of the decent conference teams we play are at home, no Ohio St/Michigan/Penn St, Wisconsin with a new coach, Miami and Purdue with lame-duck coaches, Illinois with an interim coach. It's probably the easiest schedule we will ever have, especially now that we're going to 9 conference games.

Remember that Eichorst gave Al Golden a huge extension after going 6-6 (worse record than Randy Shannon had the 3 previous years). That has me terrified that he'll double-down on Riley and give him a big extension after this year.
 

jflores

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I misquoted Eichorst (my bad) but it still doesn't change much to me. We have enough good players to not be dead last in the Big Ten. If someone would have told me before the season that, even with the injuries, we would be 3-6 right now....I wouldn't have believed it in a million years. Riley was gifted an ideal schedule for a rebuilding/transition year. All of the decent conference teams we play are at home, no Ohio St/Michigan/Penn St, Wisconsin with a new coach, Miami and Purdue with lame-duck coaches, Illinois with an interim coach. It's probably the easiest schedule we will ever have, especially now that we're going to 9 conference games.

Remember that Eichorst gave Al Golden a huge extension after going 6-6 (worse record than Randy Shannon had the 3 previous years). That has me terrified that he'll double-down on Riley and give him a big extension after this year.

A tip from the SEALs.

It's going to end. Eventually, everything ends.

Patience Grasshopper.
 

HuskerTimOmaha

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Remember that Eichorst gave Al Golden a huge extension after going 6-6 (worse record than Randy Shannon had the 3 previous years). That has me terrified that he'll double-down on Riley and give him a big extension after this year.

Oh I don't know. First year head coach, one he didn't hire, NCAA investigation that hit at the beginning of the season, bowl game ban, Penn State opening where rumors were heavy that Golden is leading candidate, shouldn't terrify anyone.

I don't see Riley, or any Nebraska football coach, having a contract longer than five years. At least not unless the coach wins something of significance. Could be proven wrong, we'll find out in a few months.
 

jteten

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That letter was painful and wreaked of sadness. It felt like a letter from the Marshall AD a season after the plane crash.

"Your support and patience as Mike Riley rebuilds our storied program one brick at a time mean the world to our young men, our staff and our university."

Did we come back from probation? Ugh.
 

B1G RED RULES

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I misquoted Eichorst (my bad) but it still doesn't change much to me. We have enough good players to not be dead last in the Big Ten. If someone would have told me before the season that, even with the injuries, we would be 3-6 right now....I wouldn't have believed it in a million years. Riley was gifted an ideal schedule for a rebuilding/transition year. All of the decent conference teams we play are at home, no Ohio St/Michigan/Penn St, Wisconsin with a new coach, Miami and Purdue with lame-duck coaches, Illinois with an interim coach. It's probably the easiest schedule we will ever have, especially now that we're going to 9 conference games.

Remember that Eichorst gave Al Golden a huge extension after going 6-6 (worse record than Randy Shannon had the 3 previous years). That has me terrified that he'll double-down on Riley and give him a big extension after this year.
It amazing to me how many cannot see the desperation from the AD. The guy who INSISTED you would not hear from him during the season crawls out of his rock twice??? Proof positive you can convince yourself of anything these days.

The biggest defenders of this mess are some of the same who have really screwed up other predictions in the past. Give it time, they will come around. On the positive side, this board is providing some entertainment beings we cannot count on that during Saturdays.
 
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