End of the Prime mystique

Gatabowl

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Sanders is a carpet bagger, he’ll be out of Boulder as soon as Hunter and his sons enter the NFL draft.
First it was he was a bad coach and Colorado wouldn’t do anything.

Now it’s he’s going to abandon them for a big job because another school thinks he’s a good coach.

Even if he does leave, he’s increased the profile of the university, increased the number of black applicants substantially, and begun to turn around arguably the worst P5 program. You can hate his personality but it’s been quite the journey.
 

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First it was he was a bad coach and Colorado wouldn’t do anything.

Now it’s he’s going to abandon them for a big job because another school thinks he’s a good coach.

Even if he does leave, he’s increased the profile of the university, increased the number of black applicants substantially, and begun to turn around arguably the worst P5 program. You can hate his personality but it’s been quite the journey.
I doubt a larger program is poised to hire him at the moment and he absolutely hasn't achieved any kind of turnaround at Colorado as of yet.
 

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First it was he was a bad coach and Colorado wouldn’t do anything.

Now it’s he’s going to abandon them for a big job because another school thinks he’s a good coach.

Even if he does leave, he’s increased the profile of the university, increased the number of black applicants substantially, and begun to turn around arguably the worst P5 program. You can hate his personality but it’s been quite the journey.
“Increased the profile of the university” I guess is one way of putting it. Embarrassing the university is another (calling out the media, throwing the team under the bus when they lose, running off players). 4-8 last year and I predict the same this year.
 

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“Increased the profile of the university” I guess is one way of putting it. Embarrassing the university is another (calling out the media, throwing the team under the bus when they lose, running off players). 4-8 last year and I predict the same this year.
It’s been so embarrassing that applications and donations have skyrocketed.
 

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First it was he was a bad coach and Colorado wouldn’t do anything.

Now it’s he’s going to abandon them for a big job because another school thinks he’s a good coach.

Even if he does leave, he’s increased the profile of the university, increased the number of black applicants substantially, and begun to turn around arguably the worst P5 program. You can hate his personality but it’s been quite the journey.

Hahaha. He is a bad coach.
 

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Applications are up 20% in a post Deion world… but CU was averaging a 10% annual increase in applications for over decade, so at least half of that is endogenous to the school.

Would be interesting to see if the trend would hold on into the future if he stays this soft and whiny and doesn’t win, but nobody seems to think he’ll be around enough for it to work
Yeah, it’s a temporary bump for sure. After he goes 4-8 again this year and then bolts, will applications go back to BAU? Who knows. We could look at what happened at Jackson state. Quick search shows enrollment is down since he left in 2022.
 

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Yeah, it’s a temporary bump for sure. After he goes 4-8 again this year and then bolts, will applications go back to BAU? Who knows. We could look at what happened at Jackson state. Quick search shows enrollment is down since he left in 2022.
I also wonder if the bump is temporary or not or if it has staying power in the black community. I honestly have no idea. If it’s a one time bump it’s worth a little, but not a lot long term. Ultimately winning solves everything, and he’s shown no ability to do so, especially considering he’s got nothing in the cubbard after his sons and Hunter.
 

Gatabowl

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Yeah, it’s a temporary bump for sure. After he goes 4-8 again this year and then bolts, will applications go back to BAU? Who knows. We could look at what happened at Jackson state. Quick search shows enrollment is down since he left in 2022.
I know our fanbase is preconditioned to having such a thing happen, but they aren’t going 0-7 to end the year.
 

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Yeah, it’s a temporary bump for sure. After he goes 4-8 again this year and then bolts, will applications go back to BAU? Who knows. We could look at what happened at Jackson state. Quick search shows enrollment is down since he left in 2022.
Enrollment is down at a lot of places. Lower birth rates will lead to fewer graduating from HS and when others see that the value is not really there as it was in the past. I would guess that a lot of places are going to have some problems going forward
 

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“Increased the profile of the university” I guess is one way of putting it. Embarrassing the university is another (calling out the media, throwing the team under the bus when they lose, running off players). 4-8 last year and I predict the same this year.
Media needs more calling out. Media in present day is an embarrassment to the media of older generations. Makes one feel better about the demise of print journalism.
 

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I saw this article on CNN. Not everyone is thrilled with Coach Prime. The article details the “accommodations” the CU administration has made for the Prime era. Will be interesting to see how CU finishes out the 2nd Prime era season.

If there’s one thing that will make me side with Sanders 10 times out of 10, it’s professors whining about everything.

Re-writing the school-wide transfer policy instead of making a side policy for football is wild though
 

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I saw this article on CNN. Not everyone is thrilled with Coach Prime. The article details the “accommodations” the CU administration has made for the Prime era. Will be interesting to see how CU finishes out the 2nd Prime era season.

If his players are:
- performing on the field
- doing well in the classroom
- not getting into any trouble

Then everything else is just a commercial arrangement between the coach and the school. The obsessive haterade he's drawing from people is unwarranted.
 

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If his players are:
- performing on the field
- doing well in the classroom
- not getting into any trouble

Then everything else is just a commercial arrangement between the coach and the school. The obsessive haterade he's drawing from people is unwarranted.
I am not a fan and i especially won’t draft his son if I was a NFL GM, but it is silly that people care so much about what he does. What you see is what you get!
 

Curdog7

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If his players are:
- performing on the field
- doing well in the classroom
- not getting into any trouble

Then everything else is just a commercial arrangement between the coach and the school. The obsessive haterade he's drawing from people is unwarranted.
Well his son just declared bankruptcy ($11mm in debt). Not great.
 

peatymeanis

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Interesting how certain posters stopped commenting in this thread now that Colorado is playing well and winning
 

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I'm a fan of Coach Prime, but I can see how others are put off by his bravado. But I don't see how one can credibly argue that he has been bad for Colorado and Colorado football. More applicants and more donor support is real currency in higher education.

And if the Buffs flatline after Coach Prime leaves, that's more on the AD and administration than Sanders. In this brave new world, no coach is a lifer any more.
 

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Interesting how certain posters stopped commenting in this thread now that Colorado is playing well and winning
My father, a CU alum, was born 96 years ago today. He was a CU season ticket holder for maybe 60 years. He died of COVID-19 in 2020 which was a tragedy aside from the fact that it spared him from the Coach Prime era.
 

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My father, a CU alum, was born 96 years ago today. He was a CU season ticket holder for maybe 60 years. He died of COVID-19 in 2020 which was a tragedy aside from the fact that it spared him from the Coach Prime era.
Sorry for your loss. I'm curious as to whether the majority of older (60+) CU alumni are anti-prime because he's flashy and represents a new world of NIL college football or if they are happy to be relevant. Colorado is ranked and is 5-2 for the first time since 2005. Donations are up across the board so I'm assuming a good chunk is the latter but I'm sure there's a good percentage of older alumni who would appreciate a more conservative Jim Tressell sweater-vest or a Dabo Swinney (no portal) approach. In other words, how much of the anti-prime sentiment is generational?
 

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I'm a fan of Coach Prime, but I can see how others are put off by his bravado. But I don't see how one can credibly argue that he has been bad for Colorado and Colorado football. More applicants and more donor support is real currency in higher education.

And if the Buffs flatline after Coach Prime leaves, that's more on the AD and administration than Sanders. In this brave new world, no coach is a lifer any more.
If you value culture, he has been bad.
 

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If you value culture, he has been bad.
Unless you play or work for the program, you are not in position to judge its "culture." How do you know what the culture inside the program is beyond a few sound bites? A distinct culture that ejects individuals who have different values is not necessarily a bad culture. Strong, distinctive cultures can be hallmarks of high functioning organizations. It does not have to be all-inclusive to be "good."
 

Curdog7

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Unless you play or work for the program, you are not in position to judge its "culture." How do you know what the culture inside the program is beyond a few sound bites? A distinct culture that ejects individuals who have different values is not necessarily a bad culture. Strong, distinctive cultures can be hallmarks of high functioning organizations. It does not have to be all-inclusive to be "good."
Ok guy. Just google Colorado football toxic culture. Plenty to see (including instructing the stadium DJ to play his son’s rap song instead of the school fight song after TDs). None of it really my concern, just o serving from afar.
 

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I'm a fan of Coach Prime, but I can see how others are put off by his bravado. But I don't see how one can credibly argue that he has been bad for Colorado and Colorado football. More applicants and more donor support is real currency in higher education.
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Unless you play or work for the program, you are not in position to judge its "culture." How do you know what the culture inside the program is beyond a few sound bites? A distinct culture that ejects individuals who have different values is not necessarily a bad culture. Strong, distinctive cultures can be hallmarks of high functioning organizations. It does not have to be all-inclusive to be "good."

You can't argue with people on this one. It's a completely moving target. First it was a he's bad coach even though he took over a team that went 1-11 the previous year and won 4 games his first year and now is sitting ranked at 5-2 and his teams have shown steady improvement. Now, it's he's going to leave or has ruined the culture of the aforementioned 1-11 Buffs. He's polarizing like the 2024 election. People have their minds made up. I'm super curious if it's generational, racial, his brash personality or some combo of the three. I'm less inclined to think it's race related for the CU alumni because the Buffs have a history of hiring African-American coaches and I can't remember any of them getting this level of hate.
 

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If you value culture, he has been bad.
What about their culture rubs you the wrong way I wonder? The student athletes are performing in the classroom, on the field, and staying out of trouble. What's bad about that culture? Are they too 'street' for you?
 

Curdog7

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What about their culture rubs you the wrong way I wonder? The student athletes are performing in the classroom, on the field, and staying out of trouble. What's bad about that culture? Are they too 'street' for you?
See my comment above. Not racial at all. Think Hugh freeze is worse.
 
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You can't argue with people on this one. It's a completely moving target. First it was a he's bad coach even though he took over a team that went 1-11 the previous year and won 4 games his first year and now is sitting ranked at 5-2 and his teams have shown steady improvement. Now, it's he's going to leave or has ruined the culture of the aforementioned 1-11 Buffs. He's polarizing like the 2024 election. People have their minds made up. I'm super curious if it's generational, racial, his brash personality or some combo of the three. I'm less inclined to think it's race related because the Buffs have a history of hiring African-American coaches.

I know Gary Barnett is a color commentator on Buffs games. It would be interesting to know more about his perspective. I am somewhat neutral on Coach Prime. He definitely has brought Colorado football back into the spotlight and they seem to have improved in his 2nd season. It seems that will also help in recruiting talent to the program as long as he is head coach there.
 
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