Congrats... even if you are right, both are crazy. And knocking the government shouldn't get your dad thrown in jail.
You're a pathetic excuse for an American if you are criticizing Kanter for speaking out against government oppression.
Congrats... even if you are right, both are crazy. And knocking the government shouldn't get your dad thrown in jail.
You're a pathetic excuse for an American if you are criticizing Kanter for speaking out against government oppression.
You can't speak out against Erdogan in Turkey. And if you want Kanter to be quiet, then who do you think should speak out? Nobody? Someone who doesn't have a platform from where they can be heard? Erdogan will of old age still in power until his last breath if that's the case.
Who's talking about us getting involved? We're discussing Kanter.
We are already involved. Read the thread or just search engine CIA coup of Turkey. Kanter was raised in Gulen schools and is a Hizmet follower. Gulen along with the CIA tried to overthrow Turkey. Erdogan is crazy but was elected by the people. He has went completely off the deep end since the coup. Wikileaks exposed Erdogan for funding ISIS by buying their oil. You could say he sponsors terrorists but there is evidence that the CIA helped create ISIS. This is more complicated than we care to talk about. All we see is "evil dictator" locks up NBA players parents because of mean tweets. I am tired of wars and social justice warriors crying for human rights when it is more complicated than the corporate media portrays.
I'm a Trump guy, but you're going down an Alt-Right rat hole. Take a break from InfoWars for a little while.
Pretty weak discussion. Not one time did I mention Trump. Not one article or video that I linked had anything to do with InfoWars. Not one point that I made has anything to do with "Alt-Right" rat hole as you call it. Now if you want to dispute the information that I posted than please do so that is the whole point. I am searching for the truth and I even asked you for your personal view based on actual people from Turkey.
But since you brought up that you are a "Trump guy" let me ask you this. Are you prepared for the aftermath of a coup if it were to happen here? I am assuming you voted for Trump so if half the country decides they want to rise up against an elected official and try to kill him will you still support him? If he tries to purge all of the people that were involved in his failed assassination will you call him an evil dictator?
And since you brought up InfoWars let's go with this one.
You mentioned the following which are the generic Alex Jones talking points for all conspiracy theorists out there for almost any country where there is conflict:
1) Deep State
2) Pipelines
3) CIA
As for Trump, I'm for him purging leftists right now. I don't need a coup! :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
Turks Can Agree on One Thing: U.S. Was Behind Failed Coup
ISTANBUL — A Turkish newspaper reported that an American academic and former State Department official had helped orchestrate a violent conspiracy to topple the Turkish government from a fancy hotel on an island in the Sea of Marmara, near Istanbul. The same newspaper, in a front-page headline, flat-out said the United States had tried to assassinate President Recep Tayyip Erdogan on the night of the failed coup.
Just an FYI: the NYT article you posted links a twitter poll (not scientific) from a pro-Turkish government news site. And plus, the NYT specifically calls this stuff out as conspiracy theories.
Moreover, our government has proven itself to be unable to keep any secret. Why the hell aren't there more leaks about us trying to assassinate Erdogan?
Lastly, with oil prices where they are plus our abundance of oil here in the states, why would our government GAF about some pipeline in Turkey? If pipelines are so important that we were trying to kill a foreign leader over them, why aren't all the Native Indians in great plans who are protesting the Keystone pipeline going missing? Seems like they'd be easier to knock off.
Pretty much anyone in a country trying to start a revolution. There's a myriad of accounts throughout history of exactly what you just saidIt would have been better if he did it with his family safe. How many people on here are willing to put their family in harms way just to criticize a government.
I agree with the greatest country on earth part but are we living safely? Should we be so blind that just because we enjoy a college basketball team that we understand what goes on in another country. Like I said I think Erdogan and Gulen are crazy. Gulen has over 140 schools in this country alone not to mention the 100s he has across the globe. There is information out there tying the opium trade to Gulen. So ask yourself if he infiltrated the Turkey government and tried to overthrow it what is he going to do here?
Connecting some dots that may open some eyes. Calipari has connections to the Clinton Foundation and Bill Clinton. Calipari raised over $1mil for Hoops for Haiti with the proceeds going to the Red Cross. Bill and Hillary brought Gulen to the US. Gulen donated big money to the Clinton campaign.
Did Enes come to UK because of Cal's connections to Clinton?
Calipari to speak at Clinton Global Initiative on Sunday
By Eric Lindsey on September 21, 2012
How the Clintons and the Rest of Washington Are Getting Rich From the Turkey Coup
Gulen allies gave money to the Hillary Clinton campaign and to the Clinton Global Initiative, as well as between $500,000 and $1 million to the Clinton Foundation.
New Ties Emerge Between Clinton And Mysterious Islamic Cleric
Federal investigators have reportedly investigated some of the schools for using work visas to bring Turkish citizens to the U.S. to teach. In some cases, taxpayer funds were used to pay immigration and legal fees for family members of teachers who worked at the facilities. Funds allocated to the schools have also been funneled to contractors controlled by Turkish nationals with connections to the Gulen movement.
Why Enes Kanter Has a New Name (And Why His Family Disowned Him)
Kanter went to Gülen-funded schools as a kid and aligns himself with the movement that followers call Hizmet, or "service."
The US economy is base on the petro dollar. If it collapses our economy collapses.
Qatar is controlling the oil production while the Saudis are in a free fall.
God you're such a piece of ******* ****. He made those statements to make people aware of his home country's current state to help educate people. I don't think enes end goal was to get his dad tortured. And to your point that he won't get on a plane and say those things, well I challenge you to fly to ISIS headquarters and tell them how you really feel. See how that works out for you.Somebody Tweet Enes and ask him to take the 1st Flight to Turkey and make the same exact statements via Twitter. You and I both know he wouldn't, so there is why he needs to STFU as he's putting his parents in harmsway. What a punk Enes turned out to be.
The aforementioned alt right rat hole. These guys, jeezSaudi Arabia produces 7 times more oil per year than Qatar. Where do you get this stuff?
Now back to Erdogan.
Russia, Turkey Agree to Build Gas Pipeline Under Black Sea
New Russian Pipeline In Baltic Sea Could 'Collapse' Ukraine
The Oil-Gas War Over Syria (In 4 Maps)
Ukrainian Employer of Joe Biden’s Son Hires a D.C. Lobbyist
When Vice President Joe Biden's son, R. Hunter Biden, joined the board of a private Ukrainian oil and natural gas company this spring, he explained his new job as a legal one, disconnected from any effort to influence the Obama Administration. In a press release, the younger Biden boasted of his abilities on issues like improving corporate transparency.
Reach of the year
Do you have an original thought or do you just link articles?
...if you follow the money ...
This is the only smart thing you've said all day. You are absolutely correct that shady *** nations are trying to better supply oil to the market, but I can assure you that terrorism is not some made up word.
Perfect world for US interests--> All of bribery and regionally nonsense would go away, and our Exxons and Schlumbergers and KBRs could go over there and conduct business as usual. I say this as someone who has worked for all three.
Saudi Arabia produces 7 times more oil per year than Qatar. Where do you get this stuff?
Moreover, our government has proven itself to be unable to keep any secret. Why the hell aren't there more leaks about us trying to assassinate Erdogan?
Don't bring that weak petro dollar ish in here ever again.
As long as people drive cars powered by gasoline, the Saudis will be fine.Weak petrodollar ish here again.
This article is from Feb. before your guy Trump dumped an f ton of weapons on the Saudis after his little sword dance and rubbing their glowing balls. I wonder why he changed his stance? I bet it was for those mean o muslims and their terror states like Iran and Qatar. Right? Couldn't be for the weak petrodollar ish could it?
Donald Trump, Saudi Arabia, And The Petrodollar
Feb 22, 2017 9:30 PM
The Saudis did not want Donald Trump in the White House. And not because of some bad blood on Twitter. There are real geopolitical issues at stake.
At the moment, Trump seems determined to walk back on US support for the so-called “moderate” rebels in Syria.
The Saudis are furious with the US for not holding up its part of the petrodollar deal. They think the US should have already attacked Syria as part of its commitment to keep the region safe for the monarchy.
Toppling Syrian President Bashar al-Assad is a longstanding Saudi goal. But a President Trump makes that unlikely. That’s not good for Saudi Arabia’s position in the Middle East, nor its relationship with the US.
This is just one of the ways President Trump will hasten the death of the petrodollar.
If the Saudis are shoved aside, it could strike a fatal blow to the petrodollar system.
The truth is, the petrodollar system is in its death throes. It doesn’t matter if the Saudis willfully abandon it, or if it crumbles because the kingdom implodes. The end result will be the same.
Right now, the stars are aligning against the Saudi kingdom. This is its most vulnerable moment since its 1932 founding.
That’s why I think the death of the petrodollar system is the No. 1 black swan event for 2017.
I expect the dollar price of gold to soar when the petrodollar system crumbles in the not-so-distant future. You don’t want to find yourself on the wrong side of history when that happens.
But that brings up another crucial point. There’s also likely to be severe inflation.
The petrodollar system has allowed the US government and many Americans to live way beyond their means for decades.
The US takes this unique position for granted. But it will disappear once the dollar loses its premier status.
This will likely be the tipping point…
Afterward, the US government will be desperate enough to implement capital controls, people controls, nationalization of retirement savings, and other forms of wealth confiscation.
I urge you to prepare for the economic and sociopolitical fallout while you still can. Expect bigger government, less freedom, shrinking prosperity… and possibly worse.
As long as people drive cars powered by gasoline, the Saudis will be fine.
I dunno man. I can see where you're coming from, but at the same time sitting around being quiet about what's happening will never result in any positive change.