ESPN to mess up nfl red zone.

razpsu

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As you know espn acquired nfl red zone and has pledged to have full commercials which red zone has not had since 2009. Wonder what other wonderful ideas they have to screw around with a great thing.
 

Erial_Lion

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I've never watched a second of Red Zone...but wow, is this pissing off a lot of my friends that do every Sunday.
 

LionJim

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What is it? I just watch games here and there.
Whenever a team is in the red zone, RedZone will show those plays. There are quarter screens when multiple teams are in the RZ. Basically, you always catch a RZ touchdown live. I hope this is sufficiently clear.
 

s1uggo72

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Whenever a team is in the red zone, RedZone will show those plays. There are quarter screens when multiple teams are in the RZ. Basically, you always catch a RZ touchdown live. I hope this is sufficiently clear.
you might want to define the RedZone in football. Its basically the +30 yr line going in for a score. I'll assume you know what the plus 30 yd line is.
 

NewEra 2026

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Whenever a team is in the red zone, RedZone will show those plays. There are quarter screens when multiple teams are in the RZ. Basically, you always catch a RZ touchdown live. I hope this is sufficiently clear.

Just to add to this description, there had previously never been commercials on the Red Zone. So the broadcast would continuously switch from game to game to show meaningful/exciting plays from every game that was being played at the time. Basically, it was constant football from 1 PM Eastern to whenever the last game of the day finished after 7 PM. Then at the end of the day, the Red Zone would show a montage of every touchdown from every game that day. It was football nirvana.

My prediction is that the first thing ESPN will do is put someone else with Scott Hanson as a co-host, or they will replace Hanson with someone that will be universally hated by football fans. This is what ESPN does.
 
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Bwifan

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RIP Red Zone. Everything ESPN touches turns to sh*t.



ESPN has to come up with $$$$ to pay the NFL owners for everything in that massive contract they just signed. Expect more of this type of thing.
 

NittPicker

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Good catch. I should have defined what a touchdown is, too.
Trivia. The term "touchdown" originated from rugby due to those players needing to touch the ball down in the opponent's goal area to record a try. The location of this "touchdown" is important because it dictates where the conversion kick can be. AFAIK, the term "touchdown" isn't used in rugby. Instead, they say the ball was grounded.

As we know, in American football there is no need to touch the ball down so the term "touchdown" isn't accurate.
 

94LionsFan

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ESPN would like you to consider how lucky you were to have a commercial-free RedZone Channel before. That’s simply not a sustainable business model. 🤣
 

LionJim

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ESPN would like you to consider how lucky you were to have a commercial-free RedZone Channel before. That’s simply not a sustainable business model. 🤣
Yeah, it was sweet while it lasted. Still, if your next door neighbor would let you borrow his Camaro any time you wanted, just fill up the tank when you’re done, and all of a sudden tells you no more Camaro, you wouldn’t be singing and dancing.
 
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94LionsFan

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Yeah, it was sweet while it lasted. Still, if your next door neighbor would let you borrow his Camaro any time you wanted, just fill up the tank when you’re done, and all of a sudden tells you no more Camaro, you wouldn’t be singing and dancing.
Oh I hear you. I was being sarcastic. It would be nice if a behemoth like ESPN could leave that little bit of revenue on the table given what fans are used to…
 
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razpsu

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So Instead of 37 commercials for a game you don’t care for you can watch the red zone and bam, full of action, plenty of teams, especially the witching hour where wins can be losses and losses can be wins. Yea I’m addicted.
 

LionJim

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So Instead of 37 commercials for a game you don’t care for you can watch the red zone and bam, full of action, plenty of teams, especially the witching hour where wins can be losses and losses can be wins. Yea I’m addicted.
Non-stop action.
 

LionJim

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s1uggo72

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Moogy

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uh its a made up term, some coaches define the 30 in as the red zone, some say the 20, what the RedZone channel uses, I dont know.
It's "made up," but it's very entrenched. I've heard it thousands of times, and each time it's referencing the 20. Coaches, players, broadcasters, betting sites ... everyone and anyone says you're in the "red zone" when you've marched to the 20-yard-line, or closer. If there's someone out there who decided to claim it's the 30-yard line and in, then they're doing their own weird thing.
 

LionJim

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its a made up coaching term, you can define it anyway you want, profootball reference defines it that way, ok great for them
My point is that when it comes to statistics it is universal to use the opponent’s 20-yard line to indicate the border of the red zone. When the NFL tv heads are discussing red zone scoring percentages, they are absolutely positively talking plays inside the twenty, exclusively. It’s like using the word “Xerox” as a verb. No, there’s no formal definition of the red zone but there’s also zero confusion unless you go looking for it.
 
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LionJim

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It's "made up," but it's very entrenched. I've heard it thousands of times, and each time it's referencing the 20. Coaches, players, broadcasters, betting sites ... everyone and anyone says you're in the "red zone" when you've marched to the 20-yard-line, or closer. If there's someone out there who decided to claim it's the 30-yard line and in, then they're doing their own weird thing.
Lol, well crafted. Doing their own weird thing.
 

KingLando

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its a made up coaching term, you can define it anyway you want, profootball reference defines it that way, ok great for them
Stop...its generally accepted as the 20. Has been for years and years and years. Every stadium uses the 20 as well.
 

Moogy

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its a made up term, you can define it anyway you want
That’s not how this works. Everything is “made up.” “Butt” is a made up term, but if someone said “slap me in the butt” and you walloped them across the face, outside of you claiming they’re a “buttface” so it’s OK, if they looked at you with disgust for hitting them in face, you can’t just say “well, it’s a made-up term, so I can define it anyway I want.” There’s an accepted definition.

And it’s accepted that “red zone” applies to the opponent’s territory, between the 20 and the goal line.
 

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Just to add to this description, there had previously never been commercials on the Red Zone. So the broadcast would continuously switch from game to game to show meaningful/exciting plays from every game that was being played at the time. Basically, it was constant football from 1 PM Eastern to whenever the last game of the day finished after 7 PM. Then at the end of the day, the Red Zone would show a montage of every touchdown from every game that day. It was football nirvana.

My prediction is that the first thing ESPN will do is put someone else with Scott Hanson as a co-host, or they will replace Hanson with someone that will be universally hated by football fans. This is what ESPN does.
Replacing Hanson would be worse than the commercials. He's fantastic as his job and is a big reason why Redzone is so good. I have tried watching similar formats in other sports such as the one for CFB, MLS, etc. and they all suck. Hanson is phenomenal.