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Don't you suppose that every country that has nuclear weapons is intelligent enough and well enough organized to defend unauthorized access to those weapons?
 
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countryroads89 said:
Don't you suppose that every country that has nuclear weapons is intelligent enough and well enough organized to defend unauthorized access to those weapons?
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Have you ever heard of Pakistan? Iran will get their nuke. Other Middle Eastern countries will follow.
 
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countryroads89 said:
Don't you suppose that every country that has nuclear weapons is intelligent enough and well enough organized to defend unauthorized access to those weapons?
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Chernobyl and Fukishima say hello. And an antagonist wasn't even involved. Missing suitcase bombs. Samples of biohazards sent to the wrong places.
Things happen, because we are human, and not foolproof.
 
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Some on the board want to ignore ISIS or at least not get involved in defeating them. Read this and tell me we shouldn't try to defeat them.

http://www.truthrevolt.org/news/german-journalist-isis-plans-nuclear-tsunami
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IMO they do need to be defeated militarily and removed from power in the areas they control but I'm not sure that I believe one thing that they've said including what they've told this journalist though I have no doubt that they are led by some seriously crazy people. He was allowed to leave to write this sensational story. ISIS has been inviting western (or any powers) powers to take them on from the day they first moved into the region. The public beheadings, destruction of world historic sites, etc. is all part of it. The Soviets seem to be preparing to take them on in Syria now. ISIS seems to want to start a Muslims vs. The World war and the greater the country that they can taunt or convince to attack them, then the greater credibility they feel they can claim and thus give a more urgent call for support from their hoped for Muslim supporters. I think that they need defeated but while using the least amount of personel and resources possible from a coalition of countries if possible.
 
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TarHeelEer said:
Chernobyl and Fukishima say hello. And an antagonist wasn't even involved. Missing suitcase bombs. Samples of biohazards sent to the wrong places.
Things happen, because we are human, and not foolproof.
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Chernobyl and Fukishima were man-made and natural made disasters, respectively, through no fault of an enemy. A biohazard isn't a nuclear weapon.You are "special". Alex Jones wants you to return his call.
 
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countryroads89 said:
Chernobyl and Fukishima were man-made and natural made disasters, respectively, through no fault of an enemy. A biohazard isn't a nuclear weapon.You are "special". Alex Jones wants you to return his call.
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You didn't respond. So you believe Pakistan is stable?
 
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countryroads89 said:
First of all, do you believe Pakistan has nukes? Secondly, do you think Pakistan is capable of defending itself from ISIS?
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Yes, Pakistan has nukes. Were you not aware of that? Amazing. Secondly, I asked you if Pakistan was stable? BTW, one of their nuclear scientists has already been arrested for passing nuclear secrets.

Abdul Qadeer Khan was one of Pakistan's top scientists,[3] and was involved in the country's various scientific programs until his dismissal.[3] In January 2004, Khan was officially summoned for a debriefing on his suspicious activities in other countries after the United States provided evidence to the Pakistan Government, and confessed it a month later.[3][4][5] Some have alleged that these activities were sanctioned by the authorities, though the Pakistan government sharply dismissed the claims.[6][7] After years of official house arrest, theIslamabad High Court (IHC) on 6 February 2009 declared Abdul Qadeer Khan to be a free citizen of Pakistan, allowing him free movement inside the country. The verdict was rendered by Chief Justice Sardar Muhammad Aslam.[8] In September 2009, expressing concerns over the Islamabad High Court's decision to end all security restrictions on Khan, the United States warned that Khan still remains a "serious proliferation risk".[9]
 
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WVPATX said:
Yes, Pakistan has nukes. Were you not aware of that? Amazing. Secondly, I asked you if Pakistan was stable? BTW, one of their nuclear scientists has already been arrested for passing nuclear secrets.

Abdul Qadeer Khan was one of Pakistan's top scientists,[3] and was involved in the country's various scientific programs until his dismissal.[3] In January 2004, Khan was officially summoned for a debriefing on his suspicious activities in other countries after the United States provided evidence to the Pakistan Government, and confessed it a month later.[3][4][5] Some have alleged that these activities were sanctioned by the authorities, though the Pakistan government sharply dismissed the claims.[6][7] After years of official house arrest, theIslamabad High Court (IHC) on 6 February 2009 declared Abdul Qadeer Khan to be a free citizen of Pakistan, allowing him free movement inside the country. The verdict was rendered by Chief Justice Sardar Muhammad Aslam.[8] In September 2009, expressing concerns over the Islamabad High Court's decision to end all security restrictions on Khan, the United States warned that Khan still remains a "serious proliferation risk".[9]
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Yes, I knew Pakistan has nukes. Sometimes when you ask a question, it isn't because you don't know the answer, it's to find out how much the other person knows.
 
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countryroads89 said:
Yes, I knew Pakistan has nukes. Sometimes when you ask a question, it isn't because you don't know the answer, it's to find out how much the other person knows.
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BS. This sounds like someone that didn't know.

First of all, do you believe Pakistan has nukes? Secondly, do you think Pakistan is capable of defending itself from ISIS?
 
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BS. This sounds like someone that didn't know.

First of all, do you believe Pakistan has nukes? Secondly, do you think Pakistan is capable of defending itself from ISIS?
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Why would I lead in to the second question? It's all over the internet; Google is your friend.
 
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You didn't know. I pointed out Pakistan early in the thread. Clearly I knew they had nukes.
 
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countryroads89 said:
Yes, I knew Pakistan has nukes. Sometimes when you ask a question, it isn't because you don't know the answer, it's to find out how much the other person knows.
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Your question certainly did not indicate you were aware Pak was Nuke State. When he asked what you knew, you came up short in your response, IMO, - if that was supposed to have been in English.
 
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