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Conn53victor

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I won't diss any current or former player. It seems to me that the team is really strong 1-8. Hays, Strömdahl, and Medina are the unknowns. I am an incurable optimist, so I think that Hays has put in the work to provide meaningful minutes. Either Strömdahl and Medina may be a surprise.

Regadless of who starts, I believe we are in great shape barring injury. By February, most teams trim to 8-ish players for the majority of minutes, and we have the horses for that.

DISCLAIMER: There could be errors in any of the above. I often don't know what I am talking about. I feel right at home on this forum.
 

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Clock mgmt, use of TOs, develop guards,...the stuff that wins games, ya know.

Designate somebody on the staff to share responsibility, because last two years have been chaos...resulting in Sweet 32 losses.

TOs = what games were lost because of this, surely not the 4 games Iowa lost big to UConn, USC and UCLA twice, so must have been the other 3.

Develop guards = Chat, Stremlow, and McCabe did pretty well in my estimation and Feuerbach was one of the best defenders in the conference so I would be curious what you're talking about.

Designate a staff member to share responsibility = I'm not at practice or in their meetings, but maybe you have some inside info.

Sweet 32 losses = Ah the old Sweet Sixteen loss. That's what this really all about for you, as usual.
 

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TOs = what games were lost because of this, surely not the 4 games Iowa lost big to UConn, USC and UCLA twice, so must have been the other 3.

Develop guards = Chat, Stremlow, and McCabe did pretty well in my estimation and Feuerbach was one of the best defenders in the conference so I would be curious what you're talking about.

Designate a staff member to share responsibility = I'm not at practice or in their meetings, but maybe you have some inside info.

Sweet 32 losses = Ah the old Sweet Sixteen loss. That's what this really all about for you, as usual.
Explain how JJ managed to blow a 17 point lead in <3 minutes vs Maryland at the end of regulation??? That's almost impossible to do. JJ proved it wasn't.
And for the record, as HC, Jansen has never even gotten to the Sweet 16.
Hence, it's now the Sweet 32 for Iowa WBB.
If Beth was going to appoint a HC from within the program, it probably should have been Harmon.
 
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Jonesy5960

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Explain how JJ managed to blow a 17 point lead in <3 minutes vs Maryland at the end of regulation??? That's almost impossible to do. JJ proved it wasn't.
And for the record, as HC, Jansen has never even gotten to the Sweet 16.
Hence, it's now the Sweet 32 for Iowa WBB.
If Beth was going to appoint a HC from within the program, it probably should have been Harmon.
You're beyond ridiculous.
 
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thatsmy2cents

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Explain how JJ managed to blow a 17 point lead in <3 minutes vs Maryland at the end of regulation??? That's almost impossible to do. JJ proved it wasn't.
And for the record, as HC, Jansen has never even gotten to the Sweet 16.
Hence, it's now the Sweet 32 for Iowa WBB.
If Beth was going to appoint a HC from within the program, it probably should have been Harmon.
17 point loss to Maryland was the result of our team being limited in quality ball handlers and missing free throws.

Jan is 50-18 as a head coach in one of the best women's basketball conferences and winner of the WBCA rookie of the year award

WOW she hasn't made it to the sweet 16 in her 2 years, to be fair it took lisa 15 yrs to make it to the sweet 16 and she only got to or beyond the sweet 16 5 times.

Raina Harmon finished 16-16 in her 1st yr. I think Raina is a great person and will be a really good coach, but not sure how you can make a statement that Beth should have hired her.

Jan has assembled a great staff and team of wonderful young ladies who will represent us well both on and off the court.

I'm looking forward to the season!
 

Scott559

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Explain how JJ managed to blow a 17 point lead in <3 minutes vs Maryland at the end of regulation??? That's almost impossible to do. JJ proved it wasn't.
And for the record, as HC, Jansen has never even gotten to the Sweet 16.
Hence, it's now the Sweet 32 for Iowa WBB.
If Beth was going to appoint a HC from within the program, it probably should have been Harmon.

You have made it clear from day one that you didn’t like the Jan hire, You said you wanted Jennie or Katie Abrahamson Henderson, I get Jennie, I don’t get Katie. That said you are entitled to your opinion as we all are. I have said before I would have been fine if Jennie had gotten the job.

You continually say you are unbiased and anyone that supports Jan is “friends or family”. You are far from unbiased, You continually preach your anti Jan agenda, Last year after any win you were virtually silent on the message board, After any loss you were tearing Jan apart, No bias there. You point out Iowa’s 51 point loss to UCLA in the BTT, Jennie lost on her home floor in the 2nd round NCAA tourney by 44 pts to Notre Dame, Was that acceptable because it was Jennie? It took Jennie till year four at Oklahoma to reach the sweet 16 at OU, But in your eyes Jan is a failure after two years, Again no bias at all.

I don’t know if Jan will elevate the program to a level we all hope for, I do think she deserves the same grace that you seem fine giving Jennie At Oklahoma. Both are good solid programs, Neither has taken the next step to be a true powerhouse program. I know you will never lose your anti Jan bias but I do think you should at least try to be somewhat fair and objective, You are not.
 

Anon1750875978

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You have made it clear from day one that you didn’t like the Jan hire, You said you wanted Jennie or Katie Abrahamson Henderson, I get Jennie, I don’t get Katie. That said you are entitled to your opinion as we all are. I have said before I would have been fine if Jennie had gotten the job.

You continually say you are unbiased and anyone that supports Jan is “friends or family”. You are far from unbiased, You continually preach your anti Jan agenda, Last year after any win you were virtually silent on the message board, After any loss you were tearing Jan apart, No bias there. You point out Iowa’s 51 point loss to UCLA in the BTT, Jennie lost on her home floor in the 2nd round NCAA tourney by 44 pts to Notre Dame, Was that acceptable because it was Jennie? It took Jennie till year four at Oklahoma to reach the sweet 16 at OU, But in your eyes Jan is a failure after two years, Again no bias at all.

I don’t know if Jan will elevate the program to a level we all hope for, I do think she deserves the same grace that you seem fine giving Jennie At Oklahoma. Both are good solid programs, Neither has taken the next step to be a true powerhouse program. I know you will never lose your anti Jan bias but I do think you should at least try to be somewhat fair and objective, You are not.
That's fair.

I still maintain a national search should have taken place.
 
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Jonesy5960

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Perhaps, you're correct.
One question, tho...What would it take for you to decide that maybe JJ isn't the long term answer?
Please be precise.
It would probably be a few years of second division finishes or a failure to make it to the Sweet 16 with this current group of players who I believe are capable of getting there and beyond. An inability to retain/recruit high level players out of high school or the portal would raise concerns for sure. The trajectory of the program today makes most of this very unlikely.

If you're truly a fan of the program you'd be cheering her on as her success and the team's success are tied together. I (and I assume most if not all of this board) believe you are much more of a Jan hater than an Iowa women's basketball fan, and would be ecstatic if they failed. There is nothing in your posting history that would suggest otherwise. The real question is why. Why do you despise this woman so much? I know nothing of her past that should lead someone to feel they way you do and yet here we are. Maybe a new therapist is in order.🤔
 
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Anon1750875978

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It would probably be a few years of second division finishes or a failure to make it to the Sweet 16 with this current group of players who I believe are capable of getting there and beyond. An inability to retain/recruit high level players out of high school or the portal would raise concerns for sure. The trajectory of the program today makes most of this very unlikely.

If you're truly a fan of the program you'd be cheering her on as her success and the team's success are tied together. I (and I assume most if not all of this board) believe you are much more of a Jan hater than an Iowa women's basketball fan, and would be ecstatic if they failed. There is nothing in your posting history that would suggest otherwise. The real question is why. Why do you despise this woman so much? I know nothing of her past that should lead someone to feel they way you do and yet here we are. Maybe a new therapist is in order.🤔
My one and only issue has ALWAYS been the swiftness of her hire.
No national search. The Iowa WBB HC position has to be a highly coveted job.
It was stated immediately when she was hired that a concern was keeping the Deal commitment. That's an INCREDIBLY short sighted view.
And we saw what happened.
 

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It would probably be a few years of second division finishes or a failure to make it to the Sweet 16 with this current group of players who I believe are capable of getting there and beyond. An inability to retain/recruit high level players out of high school or the portal would raise concerns for sure. The trajectory of the program today makes most of this very unlikely.

If you're truly a fan of the program you'd be cheering her on as her success and the team's success are tied together. I (and I assume most if not all of this board) believe you are much more of a Jan hater than an Iowa women's basketball fan, and would be ecstatic if they failed. There is nothing in your posting history that would suggest otherwise. The real question is why. Why do you despise this woman so much? I know nothing of her past that should lead someone to feel they way you do and yet here we are. Maybe a new therapist is in order.🤔
"He's objective." Now that's funny.
 

Jonesy5960

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My one and only issue has ALWAYS been the swiftness of her hire.
No national search. The Iowa WBB HC position has to be a highly coveted job.
It was stated immediately when she was hired that a concern was keeping the Deal commitment. That's an INCREDIBLY short sighted view.
And we saw what happened.
Again. Ridiculous. Nobody gives a shat about a hiring process over 2 years after the fact except you. Nobody gives a shat about Addie Deal except you. Nobody involved in the hiring process suggested keeping Deal as a recruit was a driver in the decision process. And none of this has anything to do with the fact that the program in her second year finished in second place in the B1G while having a roster that was pretty much devoid of inherited talent and was picked to finish middle of the pack. None of this had anything to do with the fact that this roster that's been completely rebuilt from the ground up since she ascended is being considered a contender in the Big10 and nationally in her 3rd year.

We as fans are all excited about what the next few years could bring if she can keep this roster together. You on the other hand are hoping that they fail, because you don't like the coach, and no, getting promoted is not sufficient grounds to despise someone. Look in the mirror. Get help.
 
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