Failed Hamas Rocket....

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This would be a good time for Repubs to elect a speaker. Are Fox News and Hannity still pressuring nonconforming house Repubs?

Isarel is already funded so they have time. We keep weapons there so they only need signed over.
 

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hits hospital and murders over 500 Palestinian Children,Women and Men today.....Israel has the proof.
Israel should nuke the savages.
The CNBC All-America Economic Survey also finds support for President Joe Biden at nearly all-time lows and that he would lose by 4 points to former President Donald Trump in a head-to-head race.

President Joe Biden’s approval rating fell to just 37%, according to CNBC’s All-America Economic Survey.

Americans’ overall approval rating for the president fell to 37% with 58% disapproving. It’s the highest disapproval rating of Biden’s presidency.

Former President Donald Trump beats Biden by 4 percentage points in a head-to-head match up, the survey indicates.

Seventy-four percent of the public believe it is either somewhat or very important for the U.S. government to fund military aid to Israel, the survey showed.
 

dave

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Sounds great. Do have all their locations? Because if they are still alive they will need that intelligence for starters. How about we ask. If they say no we tell them we will make Hezbollah, Iran, and Hamas glow in the dark if they are not returned immediately.
We know where they are or pretty close.
 

cam_blev

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doesn't sending in US troops put every single hostage at risk of being executed just for us being there? including the risk of them blowing up the hostages and even more people including the people going in to get them?

If these people are as reckless and lack of human life as claimed why would you not expect that to not happen?
 

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The CNBC All-America Economic Survey also finds support for President Joe Biden at nearly all-time lows and that he would lose by 4 points to former President Donald Trump in a head-to-head race.

President Joe Biden’s approval rating fell to just 37%, according to CNBC’s All-America Economic Survey.

Americans’ overall approval rating for the president fell to 37% with 58% disapproving. It’s the highest disapproval rating of Biden’s presidency.

Former President Donald Trump beats Biden by 4 percentage points in a head-to-head match up, the survey indicates.

Seventy-four percent of the public believe it is either somewhat or very important for the U.S. government to fund military aid to Israel, the survey showed.
The reason they are warhunting is to boost Biden s numbers
 

dave

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doesn't sending in US troops put every single hostage at risk of being executed just for us being there? including the risk of them blowing up the hostages and even more people including the people going in to get them?

If these people are as reckless and lack of human life as claimed why would you not expect that to not happen?
We will rescue hostages before we send in troops. We have teams real damn good at it.
 

cam_blev

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We will rescue hostages before we send in troops. We have teams real damn good at it.
how do you rescue hostages with out sending anyone in?
Again what is there to keep the TERRORISTS form putting a bomb on every hostage and having a single button to detonate them all?
 

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how do you rescue hostages with out sending anyone in?
Again what is there to keep the TERRORISTS from putting a bomb on every hostage and having a single button to detonate them all?
Nothing. This isn’t going to be hostage recovery. There is likely a back channel negotiation going on which is why Israel hasn’t entered Gaza yet. If anyone goes in, it’ll be remains recovery. Hamas is suing for peace using the hostages. Again, it’s all behind the scenes, in the meantime, they’ll keep fighting and Israel will as well, but there are real negotiations going on right now using the hostages as collateral to their ransom demands..

The longer there isn’t an invasion of Gaza, the more you can be sure of that. Israel doesn’t really want to go in there. Hamas doesn’t really want to fight. They did their job. Looks for concessions to come from Israel or us via money, land, or something else.

Bottomline, Israel should’ve been in Gaza last week. That they haven’t, is the tell.
 

dave

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how do you rescue hostages with out sending anyone in?
Again what is there to keep the TERRORISTS form putting a bomb on every hostage and having a single button to detonate them all?
What ddog said is probably true

If CAG goes in to get the hostages none of what you are saying matters. They don't go unless they expect to succeed.
 

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Nothing. This isn’t going to be hostage recovery. There is likely a back channel negotiation going on which is why Israel hasn’t entered Gaza yet. If anyone goes in, it’ll be remains recovery. Hamas is suing for peace using the hostages. Again, it’s all behind the scenes, in the meantime, they’ll keep fighting and Israel will as well, but there are real negotiations going on right now using the hostages as collateral to their ransom demands..

The longer there isn’t an invasion of Gaza, the more you can be sure of that. Israel doesn’t really want to go in there. Hamas doesn’t really want to fight. They did their job. Looks for concessions to come from Israel or us via money, land, or something else.

Bottomline, Israel should’ve been in Gaza last week. That they haven’t, is the tell.

They haven't gone in because Biden is getting in the way. Just like Iran wants.
 

cam_blev

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Nothing. This isn’t going to be hostage recovery. There is likely a back channel negotiation going on which is why Israel hasn’t entered Gaza yet. If anyone goes in, it’ll be remains recovery. Hamas is suing for peace using the hostages. Again, it’s all behind the scenes, in the meantime, they’ll keep fighting and Israel will as well, but there are real negotiations going on right now using the hostages as collateral to their ransom demands..

The longer there isn’t an invasion of Gaza, the more you can be sure of that. Israel doesn’t really want to go in there. Hamas doesn’t really want to fight. They did their job. Looks for concessions to come from Israel or us via money, land, or something else.

Bottomline, Israel should’ve been in Gaza last week. That they haven’t, is the tell.
Thanks. That makes a lot of sense.
 

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We know where they are or pretty close.

They have been separated. To conduct a rescue mission you would need to know the exact locations of all of them. One team isn’t going to be enough either. Several people who have done this for a living doing interviews have already stated this is pretty much the worst case senerio. They are correct.
 

dave

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They have been separated. To conduct a rescue mission you would need to know the exact locations of all of them. One team isn’t going to be enough either. Several people who have done this for a living doing interviews have already stated this is pretty much the worst case senerio. They are correct.
There are 5 CAG squadrons and who knows what the CIA has but most of those teams are former Delta and Seals.

Worst case scenario or not they would get it done.
 

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There are 5 CAG squadrons and who knows what the CIA has but most of those teams are former Delta and Seals.

Worst case scenario or not they would get it done.

One of us did this for 30 years and I'm telling you we have never had a situation like this. So stop acting like it would be a walk in the park.
 

dave

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One of us did this for 30 years and I'm telling you we have never had a situation like this. So stop acting like it would be a walk in the park.
You haven't done that for 30 years. I didn't say it would be a walk in the park. I said we would do it if we had to do it and that we are the best at it.
 

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You haven't done that for 30 years. I didn't say it would be a walk in the park. I said we would do it if we had to do it and that we are the best at it.

Actually I did and none of us regardless of Branch have every done a mission as difficult as this would be. Best case senerio would be Biden negotiating them out. So they are probably screwed unfortunately.
 
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dave

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Actually I did and none of us regardless of Branch have every done a mission as difficult as this would be. Best case senerio would be Biden negotiating them out. So they are probably screwed unfortunately.
You were a Delta and CIA SAG operator for 30 years?
 

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You were a Delta and CIA SAG operator for 30 years?

No Dave. I was a Marine who did the same stuff and went to the same schools they did. I get what you are attempting to do but it shows you really don't understand what you are talking about or the structure of any of it other than what you read on the internet. As I said above this would be the most difficult situation any team has ever had to deal with. Biden didn't want to green light the OBL raid. So I would be shocked if he authorized this. Unfortunately any hostages still alive will probably have to rely on his ability to negotiate something. I don't see that going too well either.
 

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To who? Israel or Hamas? Im sure the US will pay both plenty, otherwise they wont be able to afford to buy our weapons

Well he will have to pay Hamas and Iran to get our hostages returned. They aren't scared of him so how much do you think he offers them?
 

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No Dave. I was a Marine who did the same stuff and went to the same schools they did. I get what you are attempting to do but it shows you really don't understand what you are talking about or the structure of any of it other than what you read on the internet. As I said above this would be the most difficult situation any team has ever had to deal with. Biden didn't want to green light the OBL raid. So I would be shocked if he authorized this. Unfortunately any hostages still alive will probably have to rely on his ability to negotiate something. I don't see that going too well either.
Don't put this on me. You lied about your service. You didn't go to the same schools as Ground Branch and CAG. Don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about.
 

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Well he will have to pay Hamas and Iran to get our hostages returned. They aren't scared of him so how much do you think he offers them?
I have no clue! This is the only negotiation of this type I have any experience with, so I'll guess $100 BIllion Dollars!
But honestly the way they are printing money I don't know that it matters. We can just print and pay whatever they ask at this point. We live in a world of monopoly money.
Does Hamas want money? I'd figure they'd want land.


 

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This would be a good time for Repubs to elect a speaker. Are Fox News and Hannity still pressuring nonconforming house Repubs?
No they're split over re-opening the illegal spying case against Trump. :rolleyes:
 

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Don't put this on me. You lied about your service. You didn't go to the same schools as Ground Branch and CAG. Don't tell me I don't know what I am talking about.

No I didn't lie dumbass. You constantly keep running your mouth about **** you don't know anything about. We all go to each other's schools. We all train together. We are all capable of conducting the same missions. Now STFU and go sit in the corner. If anyone could pull it of it's our country and Isarel. I'm just telling you it would be the most difficult thing we have done and I just don't see Biden allowing it.
 

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I have no clue! This is the only negotiation of this type I have any experience with, so I'll guess $100 BIllion Dollars!
But honestly the way they are printing money I don't know that it matters. We can just print and pay whatever they ask at this point. We live in a world of monopoly money.
Does Hamas want money? I'd figure they'd want land.




It doesn't matter what Hamas wants only what Iran wants.
 

dave

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No I didn't lie dumbass. You constantly keep running your mouth about **** you don't know anything about. We all go to each other's schools. We all train together. We are all capable of conducting the same missions. Now STFU and go sit in the corner. If anyone could pull it of it's our country and Isarel. I'm just telling you it would be the most difficult thing we have done and I just don't see Biden allowing it.
LOL. You are mad because you know I am right and your ego took a hit.

Delta Operators might have gone to a marine sniper school but that doesn't mean you have the same training as them. Stop trying to pretend I don't know what I am talking about because it isn't exactly some secret ****. There are hundreds of operators out there who have told their story and anyone with a brain and apparently not a marine can figure it out.

It wouldn't be the hardest thing they have done.
 

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LOL. You are mad because you know I am right and your ego took a hit.

Delta Operators might have gone to a marine sniper school but that doesn't mean you have the same training as them. Stop trying to pretend I don't know what I am talking about because it isn't exactly some secret ****. There are hundreds of operators out there who have told their story and anyone with a brain and apparently not a marine can figure it out.

It wouldn't be the hardest thing they have done.

You're not right. You continue to look like an idiot to anyone who knows what I'm talking about.
 

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Even if you hope we don't. Surely you understand he needs to shut up.