False Incoming Missile Alarm Hawaii

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Occam's razor.

By the way, if we were to lay waste to NK nuclearily ( made up that word) what effect would it have on Japan with fallout and whatnot? Or could we pretty much handle things with conventional weapons?
I would think NK would be an ideal time to break out the Rods from God/Project Thor.
 

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I think the problem many nations are going to find increasingly in the future is that there isn’t much patriotism out there either. People care more about their life than some vague nation they are a part of. Older generations hate this, but the NFL protests revealed a lot about Millenials. The +50 crowd will not be able to count on them to fight a war for them. Another draft in this country would be the end of this country imo.
I think it’s that more people care about LIFE in general than some made up country boundary. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a patriot of this wonderful country but I also understand the stupidity of the fact of an invisible line can determine if you’re allowed to move somewhere else or not.
 

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I think it’s that more people care about LIFE in general than some made up country boundary. Don’t get me wrong, I’m a patriot of this wonderful country but I also understand the stupidity of the fact of an invisible line can determine if you’re allowed to move somewhere else or not.
To me it’s fairly easy to say World War II, I will go fight for humanity and my country. The War in Iraq or Vietnam, nah, my life is worth more than some geopolitical nonsense.
 
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Boundaries are set with laws and ownership. Without some sort of construct in the form of laws and boundaries, how do you enforce the equal treatment or right of being? Would it not go back to the law of survival of the fittest? If you go to one world order with laws you would have to have jurisdictional enforcement thereby creating a boundary. Problem with that is, you would have a lot more poverty and injustice because only the rich and powerful now will be in charge of everything we now own.
 

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Yeah I agree with the set laws and everything but if you’re born one foot across the border in Canada you shouldn’t be able to be president? You’re automatically the manchurain candidate?
 

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Yeah I agree with the set laws and everything but if you’re born one foot across the border in Canada you shouldn’t be able to be president? You’re automatically the manchurain candidate?
I guess that would depend on where your allegiance lies. If you become a citizen swearing to uphold the laws of the land and protect the rights of its people, I could see allowing them to become president. For me, America is an idea, a want for a better life and if you embrace that idea, then yes.
 

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In a state that is run and that has been controlled by democrats for years. What else would you expect from anything run by liberal democrats except this kind of incompetence?..... And as far as the person responsible for this blunder goes. He'll probably just get transferred to another state job, with a pay raise.
 

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If you honestly believe this guy walked into the room with "the big button" and pressed that mfer...
 

bigpapatyler

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I think all lines -- e.g. country, state, county, property -- are ********. Why should some invisible line keep me from living where I want?
Wherever you live, on any level, you've either gotta be able to fight off or pay off the people who lay claim that property. Americans are known for having the biggest, baddest guns and the most money,...ol' Hector is gonna have a hard time winning that battle. Humans are territorial creatures like dogs or wolves or anything else. Some people want the space and freedom to live and grow without being bothered. Sure, lots of people in this world wanna come here to the land flowing with milk and honey. To allow all of them, though, means to lessen the quality of life of those with the bigger, badder guns and money. That's a sacrifice many are not willing to make. War and conflict is a story as old as time.
 
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Wherever you live, on any level, you've either gotta be able to fight off or pay off the people who lay claim that property. Americans are known for having the biggest, baddest guns and the most money,...ol' Hector is gonna have a hard time winning that battle. Humans are territorial creatures like dogs or wolves or anything else. Some people want the space and freedom to live and grow without being bothered. Sure, lots of people in this world wanna come here to the land flowing with milk and honey. To allow all of them, though, means to lessen the quality of life of those with the bigger, badder guns and money. That's a sacrifice many are not willing to make. War and conflict is a story as old as time.
Survival of the fittest is the only way you could go without borders.
 

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To me it’s fairly easy to say World War II, I will go fight for humanity and my country. The War in Iraq or Vietnam, nah, my life is worth more than some geopolitical nonsense.

It’s healthy and sane to question your governments motives on conflicts

there’s a healthy respect and investment level due to our military- but there are some that seem to fall into the idea that “supporting” our troops means backing all the interventions conflicts destabilizing activities and the idea that our military somehow ensures “freedoms”

It can be a touchy subject I know
 

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Wherever you live, on any level, you've either gotta be able to fight off or pay off the people who lay claim that property. Americans are known for having the biggest, baddest guns and the most money,...ol' Hector is gonna have a hard time winning that battle. Humans are territorial creatures like dogs or wolves or anything else. Some people want the space and freedom to live and grow without being bothered. Sure, lots of people in this world wanna come here to the land flowing with milk and honey. To allow all of them, though, means to lessen the quality of life of those with the bigger, badder guns and money. That's a sacrifice many are not willing to make. War and conflict is a story as old as time.
Uhhh, I was being sarcastic. There’s not a single open-borders advocate who would tolerate a bum walking across his invisible property line to live in his back yard.
 

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It’s healthy and sane to question your governments motives on conflicts

there’s a healthy respect and investment level due to our military- but there are some that seem to fall into the idea that “supporting” our troops means backing all the interventions conflicts destabilizing activities and the idea that our military somehow ensures “freedoms”

It can be a touchy subject I know
They don’t want to feel their life or their loved one’s life was wasted so there is some cognitive dissonance going on. I had a friend in college who joined up to get school paid, a popular thing in the late 90’s and very early 2000’s, then 9-11 happened. He was part of buildup operations for Afghanistan over here, which he dutifully carried out. Next came Iraq and he tried to get on board and worked at what he did, but he never believed in that operation from the get go. When it was his time to go he quit. That set him back for like 5 years from work and he had to go through a mess of work, but I always understood. It’s tough, I love America, but she is like an annoying uncle sometimes with the stuff our politicians get involved in.
 
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