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greginky1957

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I am 58 years old and have been a huge Wildcat since a friend of my father took me to my first basketball game at Memorial Coliseum when I was 10. I spend much more time in The Lair than I do in The Rafters. Football has always been my first love. Like many kids I wanted to play in the NFL. That dream ended early because my high school didn't even have a football team because we were so small. But as a Wildcat fan I can understand everyone's frustration with where we are at right now. And I know that as a fan it hard to keep on believing that things will turn around. But I still believe in my heart that Coach Stoops will turn us around. We need to keep supporting our team no matter what the next 2 games bring. We will get back on track against Charlotte and when the players get their confidence back after that game, we will give our rival Louisville all they can handle.I am not saying that we will win that game, but in my heart I believe that we truly have a chance. I have to, because I am a fan.
 
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I am 58 years old and have been a huge Wildcat since a friend of my father took me to my first basketball game at Memorial Coliseum when I was 10. I spend much more time in The Lair than I do in The Rafters. Football has always been my first love. Like many kids I wanted to play in the NFL. That dream ended early because my high school didn't even have a football team because we were so small. But as a Wildcat fan I can understand everyone's frustration with where we are at right now. And I know that as a fan it hard to keep on believing that things will turn around. But I still believe in my heart that Coach Stoops will turn us around. We need to keep supporting our team no matter what the next 2 games bring. We will get back on track against Charlotte and when the players get their confidence back after that game, we will give our rival Louisville all they can handle.I am not saying that we will win that game, but in my heart I believe that we truly have a chance. I have to, because I am a fan.

Greg, I am 76, and like you, I have been a UK fan ever since I can remember. I went to my first game in 1952, but I had listened to all the games with my Grandpa on an old Airline radio from Montgomery Ward all over the hills of Eastern Kentucky, also listening to fox hounds run, and old men arguing about whose dog was best. It was great growing up in Wolfe County as a barefoot boy.
After flying in the Air Force as a fighter pilot, and then flying commercial, I bid my trips with Northwest Airlines to be at 35,000 feet East of the Mississippi River, so I could listen to Cawood broadcast the games.
I still believe Coach Stoops can "right the wagon", and I think he has two more years to do that, but he must show improvement.
His recruiting has been good, but he must have coaches who can coach the guys up. The SEC is a tough conference, but we have been good in the past, and I sincerely believe it will happen again. I know UK will pay the money to make it happen, as proved with the improvements to CWS.
Most of us were happy when Stoops was hired, and hopefully we will be again. I know my butt will be in the seat when it happens, if I'm still looking at "Green side up."

OLD STOLL FIELD GUY!
 

greginky1957

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Willie I agree that we need coaches who can"coach kids up" I am not knocking any of our current coaches but I sure hated to see Mike Summers leave, he seemed to me a great O-Line coach. I read rumors on here that Stoops is why we have stayed with PT and I hope that isn't true. I saw one poster mention that coach Dawson wanted to play Phillips because he fit his style best. I am not sure that is what Dawson wants or not, but if it is then Stoops should let him, if Stoops is micromanaging coach Dawson then coach Dawson is no better off than he was at WVU in my opinion. I am not saying that I want Phillips as my QB, I am just saying that if that truly is what coach Dawson wants, then he should be allowed to make that decision. This might change when Dawson gets his recruits in here, IF coach Stoops really is dictating who plays. Again, that was just a post I read on a thread, not sure of the validity of that claim at all. I hope that the administration gives coach Stoops 2 more years before making any rash decisions. This is the hardest conference in America to win in, and I want to see us succeed.
 

zannmann

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I want Stoops to succeed, but right now they are making too many coaching errors. I could live with the losses if we were just being out played. However, we kill ourselves more than the other team. Vandy would have been a easy win if plays were called correctly and so many errors weren't committed.
 

greginky1957

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Yes there are coaching errors and player errors too. But remember that we are the 3rd youngest team in college and our head coach is inexperienced and still learning his new position. I just hope he learns and grows
 
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zannmann

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I'm talking about the coaches making too many mistakes. This may be Stoops first HC job, but he has been a football coach for a while. There are too many organizational errors. Too many bad play call errors.
 
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(my 1st game at old Florida Field, SOS was our QB, not the HBC)

I believeeee....

That UF had a HBC that tried to micro-manage his OC's.
He's gone now, back to doing what he was good at, being a DC.
So how long does it take a great HBC with a 'quality staff' to turn things around?

 

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I am 52 and sick of this sh*t . Been a UK Football fan since 1974 . I met Barnhart back in 2003 in Louisville at Big Springs Country Club at a UK Luncheon . Talk to him afterwards , and he told me his vision for UK football . He said and I " Quote " He wanted to build the Football program up and for UK to really compete in the SEC. And he Envisioned a stadium like Tennessee 100,000 plus . It's been 13 years and it's all been a ruse . Brooks left because of " Empty " promises from Barnhart . His hires have been just awful . Inexperienced coaches after Brooks , upgrades to the facilities but down sizes the Stadium by 10,000 seats . In what business model plan is that for growth ? Ticket prices are way up , but the product on the field is still the same .
 

DACats86

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(my 1st game at old Florida Field, SOS was our QB, not the HBC)

I believeeee....

That UF had a HBC that tried to micro-manage his OC's.
He's gone now, back to doing what he was good at, being a DC.
So how long does it take a great HBC with a 'quality staff' to turn things around?

Unfortunately, there are a lot of HBC similarities between Muschamp and Stoops...
 

OHIO COLONEL

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I'll join this 'old guys' thread...but won't reveal my age. But...remember Stoll Field well. Was reading an article on ESPN this morning about how Beilein at Arkansas proposed a SEC/Big10 challenge like those type in b'ball. And saw where the SEC has mandated beginning in 2016 all SEC teams play at least Power 5 game out of conference. Ours in UL, but I looked up the 2016 schedule. I've seen some posters reference that next year gets harder and I agree. Stoops better hope that in year 4 his young guys mature more than they have so far. And that the coaching gets better.

2016 Kentucky Wildcats Football Schedule
Date Opponent Time/TV Tickets
Saturday
Sep. 3 Southern Miss Golden Eagles
Commonwealth Stadium, Lexington, KY TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Sep. 10 at Florida Gators
Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, Gainesville, FL TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Sep. 17 New Mexico State Aggies
Commonwealth Stadium, Lexington, KY TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Sep. 24 South Carolina Gamecocks
Commonwealth Stadium, Lexington, KY TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Oct. 1 at Alabama Crimson Tide
Bryant-Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa, AL TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Oct. 8 Vanderbilt Commodores
Commonwealth Stadium, Lexington, KY TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Oct. 15 --- Open Date --- ---
Saturday
Oct. 22 Mississippi State Bulldogs
Commonwealth Stadium, Lexington, KY TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Oct. 29 at Missouri Tigers
Faurot Field, Columbia, MO TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Nov. 5 Georgia Bulldogs
Commonwealth Stadium, Lexington, KY TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Nov. 12 at Tennessee Volunteers
Neyland Stadium, Knoxville, TN TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Nov. 19
Austin Peay Governors
Commonwealth Stadium, Lexington, KY TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Nov. 26 at Louisville Cardinals
 

BigBluePhantom

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I'll join this 'old guys' thread...but won't reveal my age. But...remember Stoll Field well. Was reading an article on ESPN this morning about how Beilein at Arkansas proposed a SEC/Big10 challenge like those type in b'ball. And saw where the SEC has mandated beginning in 2016 all SEC teams play at least Power 5 game out of conference. Ours in UL, but I looked up the 2016 schedule. I've seen some posters reference that next year gets harder and I agree. Stoops better hope that in year 4 his young guys mature more than they have so far. And that the coaching gets better.

2016 Kentucky Wildcats Football Schedule
Date Opponent Time/TV Tickets
Saturday
Sep. 3 Southern Miss Golden Eagles
Commonwealth Stadium, Lexington, KY TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Sep. 10 at Florida Gators
Ben Hill Griffin Stadium, Gainesville, FL TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Sep. 17 New Mexico State Aggies
Commonwealth Stadium, Lexington, KY TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Sep. 24 South Carolina Gamecocks
Commonwealth Stadium, Lexington, KY TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Oct. 1 at Alabama Crimson Tide
Bryant-Denny Stadium, Tuscaloosa, AL TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Oct. 8 Vanderbilt Commodores
Commonwealth Stadium, Lexington, KY TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Oct. 15 --- Open Date --- ---
Saturday
Oct. 22 Mississippi State Bulldogs
Commonwealth Stadium, Lexington, KY TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Oct. 29 at Missouri Tigers
Faurot Field, Columbia, MO TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Nov. 5 Georgia Bulldogs
Commonwealth Stadium, Lexington, KY TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Nov. 12 at Tennessee Volunteers
Neyland Stadium, Knoxville, TN TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Nov. 19
Austin Peay Governors
Commonwealth Stadium, Lexington, KY TBA Buy
Tickets

Saturday
Nov. 26 at Louisville Cardinals

I don't know that the schedule is that much harder. I see 4 wins, 4 losses and 4 very winnable games. Pretty much what I said going into this year. That said, we don't win many of the winnable games unless we see improved execution and vastly improved play calling. I do think our players will be stronger and more experienced. However, there is nothing so far to give me any hope that our play calling will change.
 
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I'll join this 'old guys' thread...but won't reveal my age. But...remember Stoll Field well. Was reading an article on ESPN this morning about how Beilein at Arkansas proposed a SEC/Big10 challenge like those type in b'ball. And saw where the SEC has mandated beginning in 2016 all SEC teams play at least Power 5 game out of conference. Ours in UL, but I looked up the 2016 schedule. I've seen some posters reference that next year gets harder and I agree. Stoops better hope that in year 4 his young guys mature more than they have so far. And that the coaching gets better.

UF has been playing FSU (ACC) yearly since 1958, and Miami yearly before that. UF dropped the annual game with Miami in 1988 in preparation for the 1990 SEC east/west division and the 1992 expansion. UF still averages playing Miami about once every 4 years since then, and they still have future games scheduled with the scUM. :boxing:

Funny thing to me is the idiot rival fans and/or media-morons that harp that UF doesn't play a quality OoC, Out of State/South opponent,,, as if an 0-11 Washington or a 4-8 BC would somehow be a tougher opponent in their house than playing FSU in tallycrappy. :confused:
 

sluggercatfan

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(my 1st game at old Florida Field, SOS was our QB, not the HBC)

I believeeee....

That UF had a HBC that tried to micro-manage his OC's.
He's gone now, back to doing what he was good at, being a DC.
So how long does it take a great HBC with a 'quality staff' to turn things around?

Gator, as much as I HATE, HATE(they some low down dirty snitches) Tenn I think they will be one of two-three best teams in the conference unless Jones is a really bad coach..
 

OHIO COLONEL

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I don't know that the schedule is that much harder. I see 4 wins, 4 losses and 4 very winnable games. Pretty much what I said going into this year. That said, we don't win many of the winnable games unless we see improved execution and vastly improved play calling. I do think our players will be stronger and more experienced. However, there is nothing so far to give me any hope that our play calling will change.
We have 7 home games so that's good, but not as good as this year. Southern Miss normally has a pretty tough team. They're 7-2 this year and only have about 10 Seniors, so that could be a tougher than normal opening game. The sky will be falling if... if we lose. Georgia I think will be tougher, UL maybe, don't know about USC or Missou. I think the schedule looks a bit tougher than this year. But I'll defer to your judgement Blue.
 

greginky1957

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DACats86 said:

Unfortunately, there are a lot of HBC similarities between Muschamp and Stoops...
instaGATOR said:
That was the 'not so subtle' point I was attempting to make alright... :eek:kay:[smoke]



Sorry, that one just flew over my head, kind of a scary thought though and you're right, there are many similarities. I hope Stoops doesn't meet the same result as Muschamp did. Would not be good for KY. By the way, I love your name, other than the inference that you're a Gator fan that is ha ha. But that doesn't make you a bad person.
 
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Only 3 SEC HBC's have taken their teams to the SEC-C game in their 1st year:

Less sMiles - LSU
Gus Mal-adjusted - AU
And now Jim McElwain - Florida :cool2:
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There are 4 other Gator HBC's that have won 9 games their 1st season at UF.
There is only ONE that will have won 10+ games, and that's McElwain. [banana]

The 'RIGHT' guy can turn things around instantly.
The 'WRONG' guy might not ever turn things around.
Seeing and Knowing the difference is where an AD makes or breaks his rep... :eyes:

I don't watch UK enough to even have an opinion on Mark's job performance.
I know that I've been antsy the past 2 years playing UK, so that's something to consider.
But there is that close and hand grenade thingy to consider too.... :flushed:

instaGATOR (instant Gator, just add Kentucky Bourbon and SWAMP water) [cheers]
 

BigBluePhantom

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Only 3 SEC HBC's have taken their teams to the SEC-C game in their 1st year:

Less sMiles - LSU
Gus Mal-adjusted - AU
And now Jim McElwain - Florida :cool2:
==========

There are 4 other Gator HBC's that have won 9 games their 1st season at UF.
There is only ONE that will have won 10+ games, and that's McElwain. [banana]

The 'RIGHT' guy can turn things around instantly.
The 'WRONG' guy might not ever turn things around.
Seeing and Knowing the difference is where an AD makes or breaks his rep... :eyes:

I don't watch UK enough to even have an opinion on Mark's job performance.
I know that I've been antsy the past 2 years playing UK, so that's something to consider.
But there is that close and hand grenade thingy to consider too.... :flushed:

instaGATOR (instant Gator, just add Kentucky Bourbon and SWAMP water) [cheers]

We can't get a Jim McElwain to come coach at UK. Stoops may not get us to level that you guys expect but if he can get us to 7 or 8 wins a year for a number of years, that will put us in a position to go after a top coach like McElwain. That is where we are. People want to compare us to the elite programs in the conference and it is really apples to oranges.
 
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In 1906 dirt road Florida started on a 100 Year Plan. Back then, Mississippi had a larger state population than Florida had, in everything but mosquitoes. :weary:

In the 1930's, the 'Private' UAA was formed by a group of local businessmen to facilitate and fund the entire sports program. (not the FL taxpayers)
UF has now won more TOTAL SEC Championships than any other school.
UF virtually OWNS the SEC's All Sports Trophies, (Men's, Women's, Combined)
Sports Illustrated
has called UF the 'Mountain Top' of college sports. :cool2:

For the past 30+ consecutive years, UF has been the ONLY school in the NCAA to finish in the Top 10 for the National All Sports Award (the Directors Cup).
It's been a very long road covering several generations of the Gator faithful.

Can the Wildcats do the same kinds of things for their sports program? :eyes:

Anything is possible, but it's a long hard trip that takes a steady commitment....
You will need to do the same things for every sport you sponsor, like you do for the
B-Ball team. Without that kind of 'entire program commitment' you won't get it done.

Otherwise, forget the rest and just stick to being a B-Ball factory for the NBA.
Several SEC schools do the same for football, old time phootball factories....
No judgments, neither good nor bad,,, it's simply a choice that you can make.

[pfftt] Cheer up guys, UK basketball :basketball: season has begun! :clap:

PS

Florida is also the ONLY school in NCAA history to hold both the football and basketball NC's in the same season, and in the same calendar year. :popcorn:
 

Grumpyolddawg

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In 1906 dirt road Florida started on a 100 Year Plan. Back then, Mississippi had a larger state population than Florida had, in everything but mosquitoes. :weary:

In the 1930's, the 'Private' UAA was formed by a group of local businessmen to facilitate and fund the entire sports program. (not the FL taxpayers)
UF has now won more TOTAL SEC Championships than any other school.
UF virtually OWNS the SEC's All Sports Trophies, (Men's, Women's, Combined)
Sports Illustrated
has called UF the 'Mountain Top' of college sports. :cool2:

For the past 30+ consecutive years, UF has been the ONLY school in the NCAA to finish in the Top 10 for the National All Sports Award (the Directors Cup).
It's been a very long road covering several generations of the Gator faithful.

Can the Wildcats do the same kinds of things for their sports program? :eyes:

Anything is possible, but it's a long hard trip that takes a steady commitment....
You will need to do the same things for every sport you sponsor, like you do for the
B-Ball team. Without that kind of 'entire program commitment' you won't get it done.

Otherwise, forget the rest and just stick to being a B-Ball factory for the NBA.
Several SEC schools do the same for football, old time phootball factories....
No judgments, neither good nor bad,,, it's simply a choice that you can make.

[pfftt] Cheer up guys, UK basketball :basketball: season has begun! :clap:

PS

Florida is also the ONLY school in NCAA history to hold both the football and basketball NC's in the same season, and in the same calendar year. :popcorn:

Congrats on a great season Insta, good luck against Bama.
 

pickled cat

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Yes there are coaching errors and player errors too. But remember that we are the 3rd youngest team in college and our head coach is inexperienced and still learning his new position. I just hope he learns and grows
Looks like our players and coaches get to grow up together. Who knows, could be a good thing!
 

greginky1957

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Despite all of the Mitch Barnhart haters, UK has progressed in multiple sports since he became AD. I am not saying that he is a great AD, only pointing out a fact. I believe that Mark Stoops was a good hire, but only time will tell for sure. The university is now making a financial commitment to football which is a step in the right direction. I know we reduced seating but my guess is that if we get football to produce then the seating capacity will increase with another infusion of cash to the football program by the university. (we have a hard time filling seats now and I have heard many people talk about not renewing their season tickets)I know that many will bash me for saying that MB has made improvements, but he has. SO, LET THE BASHING BEGIN. Interesting facts Instagator. I will be rooting for the Gators to put a beating on 'Bama