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[WVUALLEN]

January 29, 2019 by Jeff Porter:

Watching from the comfort of one’s home or the bar will always be the option of choice for many people, especially those living far away from their favorite team, convincing a new generation to buy season tickets is a daunting challenge. Millennials are typically as people currently between the ages of 18-34 born between 1980-1996 and known as the generation that won’t spend.

Millennials comprise an increasingly larger subset of college football fans, and therefore athletic departments are targeting this group for season ticket sales more and more. The problem is, the millennial generation have been shown to not want to attend live sporting events because:
(1) Tickets are too expensive
(2) Games are about four hours
(3) It’s easier to games at home
(4) Kickoff times are typically announced two weeks prior to the game

The major revenue stream besides ticket sales for these athlete departments is broadcasting rights. Typically, these rights are negotiated with the conference office, and each member institution receives an annual portion of these rights.

The reason media companies are willing to sign multi-billion dollar deals is to ensure their networks get the best games, which will attract the most eyeballs.

There are other things that bring fans to games. It's not like it was years ago when it was more about wins and losses than fun and games. Millennials are craving experiences. When families go to Disney World year after year, they go not only for the attractions but for the entire experience. There has to be something beyond the game that attracts fans and supporters’ game after game that they can’t experience from home or at a sports bar. Some departments are taking a leading role in addressing the overall fan experience while others are lag further behind.

It's more about a carnival like experience for today's liberal woke families. Nothing about the game.

So if you really want to stop supporting and hurt WVU as much as possible then quit tuning them in.

College attendance is dropping everywhere even if you win. Schools care more for media rights and Millennial fans care more about family fun experiences.

 

[Buckaineer]

YOU MEAN THE 70% WVU CAREER WINNING PERCENTAGE? TERRIBLE, HUH? EVEN THOUGH IT'S BETTER THAN WHAT NEHLEN, RICH, BOWDEN AND DANA DID!

How many fbs teams, winning fbs teams and ranked fbs teams did he play against and beat in comparison?

 

[Buckaineer]

And losing the way we've been is "good" for them? There is no loyalty in college sports anymore. The recruits sign, play or not play, and transfer whenever they want.

Hmm sounds like what coaches and ADs have always done and never saw you whining about that as they pocket all The money the players earned.

 

[Darth_VadEER]

Hard to argue with you in the age of NIL and players in the portal at alarming rates the last few years. Still, as long as they’re putting on the blue and gold, the players will get my support.

That's fine. But I'm not to give my time to anyone. If I'm not enjoying it, I'm not wasting my time.

Maybe if it were cheap and easy to attend games I wouldn't mind but it's expensive and at times a chore.

 

[MountaineerWV]

Hmm sounds like what coaches and ADs have always done and never saw you whining about that as they pocket all The money the players earned.

Players are getting $80,000+ education for free. So, STFU. While students who have a 32+ ACT and 4.25 GPA are having to pay $80,000.

 

[Buckaineer]

Players are getting $80,000+ education for free. So, STFU. While students who have a 32+ ACT and 4.25 GPA are having to pay $80,000.

No they are not getting anything “ for free”. They give their bodies, time, heart and soul for scholarships that can be taken at any time for any reason and usually aren’t more than a year anyway. Look at the numbers of how few athletes playing football GRADUATE with a degree and it exposes the b.s. you are trying to sell. Not to mention the athletes don’t get the scholarships, it is money transferred on paper between school departments. It’s not cash in their pockets to do with as they choose. Meanwhile these young men are earning BILLIONS for the NCAA, conferences, schools, networks, etc. And don’t get a DIME of it. But everyone else sure is getting rich off their suffering and sacrifice.

 

[WVUALLEN]

How many fbs teams, winning fbs teams and ranked fbs teams did he play against and beat in comparison?

Stewart had wins over
#4 Oklahoma
#9 Pitt

25-12 over FBS teams
3-0 over FCS

14 wins over FBS teams with winning records
(14-10 vs FBS with winning record)

11-2 vs FBS teams with losing record.

 

[WVUALLEN]

No they are not getting anything “ for free”. They give their bodies, time, heart and soul for scholarships that can be taken at any time for any reason and usually aren’t more than a year anyway. Look at the numbers of how few athletes playing football GRADUATE with a degree and it exposes the b.s. you are trying to sell. Not to mention the athletes don’t get the scholarships, it is money transferred on paper between school departments. It’s not cash in their pockets to do with as they choose. Meanwhile these young men are earning BILLIONS for the NCAA, conferences, schools, networks, etc. And don’t get a DIME of it. But everyone else sure is getting rich off their suffering and sacrifice.

A traditional full athletic scholarship covers tuition, fees, room and board, and books.

The Power 5 conferences (ACC, Big 12, Big Ten, SEC and Pac-12) College football players in Power 5 conferences receive monthly stipends. If you think that money is being spent frivolously, you're wrong.

2021-2022 average NCAA athlete has pocketed just $3,711 in NIL money. The average income from NIL deals for student-athletes ranges from $1,000 to $10,000, however some cases where some athletes have earned a whole lot more than that.

Some colleges and universities have developed policies to stop student-athletes from making brand deals that would interfere with their own lucrative sponsorship contracts.

INSIDER Magazine - A deal requiring an athlete to "wear products competitive to Nike during team activities – ex. practices, competitions, media, team travel, community service, photo sessions, team-building activities, etc." could violate Ohio State's rules for example. The university also said that students should not "promote beverages competitive to Coca-Cola on-campus."

"It is messy," Blake Lawrence, CEO of sports-marketing platform Opendorse, told Insider in August 2021. "If a student athlete at an Adidas school that signs a deal with, let's say, Lululemon shows up to a press conference with a Lululemon hat and shirt on, is that a violation of the team's contract with Adidas? Those are the things that people are trying to figure out."

 

[MountaineerWV]

No they are not getting anything “ for free”. They give their bodies, time, heart and soul for scholarships that can be taken at any time for any reason and usually aren’t more than a year anyway. Look at the numbers of how few athletes playing football GRADUATE with a degree and it exposes the b.s. you are trying to sell. Not to mention the athletes don’t get the scholarships, it is money transferred on paper between school departments. It’s not cash in their pockets to do with as they choose. Meanwhile these young men are earning BILLIONS for the NCAA, conferences, schools, networks, etc. And don’t get a DIME of it. But everyone else sure is getting rich off their suffering and sacrifice.

They have a choice, they could choose NOT to accept the scholarship and NOT attend college. That's a choice.

 

[Buckaineer]

They have a choice, they could choose NOT to accept the scholarship and NOT attend college. That's a choice.

And then the people taking all of the money the players earn wouldn’t get any- so we all know that will never happen.

Plus the people taking the money made it so the players can’t earn money doing what they do without playing for free for the people keeping all the revenue the players earn. They must stay for at least two years in college or be a certain age.

 

[MountaineerWV]

And then the people taking all of the money the players earn wouldn’t get any- so we all know that will never happen.

Plus the people taking the money made it so the players can’t earn money doing what they do without playing for free for the people keeping all the revenue the players earn. They must stay for at least two years in college or be a certain age.

The players are getting paid you imbecile. You know NOTHING. They receive a monthly check. They receive free tuition, books, meals, etc. The academic kids are the ones PAYING for these athletes to go to college. So shut up on this, you are WRONG. I don't feel one ounce of sorrow for any player on any roster. I will be paying tens of thousands on my own children to go to college with 30+ ACT scores, 4.25 GPA, etc. If anyone, it should be ME bitching about them not getting paid.

 

[Buckaineer]

The players are getting paid you imbecile. You know NOTHING. They receive a monthly check. They receive free tuition, books, meals, etc. The academic kids are the ones PAYING for these athletes to go to college. So shut up on this, you are WRONG. I don't feel one ounce of sorrow for any player on any roster. I will be paying tens of thousands on my own children to go to college with 30+ ACT scores, 4.25 GPA, etc. If anyone, it should be ME bitching about them not getting paid.

Idiot, they got a small boost a few years back after lawsuits— a few thousand dollars. Meanwhile look at loser Brown and other such coaches and ADS raking in MILLIONS off the backs of these players. They don’t receive ”free” anything- they have a very full work and exercise routine year round that takes them far out of a normal students routine, but for which they receive next to nothing after working over a forty hour workweek and having every minutia of their lives scrutinized from classes and grades to exercise and nutrition to any work they maybe able to do outside of football if any. Your children aren’t doing **** for anyone but themselves and can manage their own schedules while these athletes are giving years of their lives while someone else reaps all of the rewards and the university rakes in millions per year from tv money to donations to merchandise and beverage sales and tickets to students and tremendous amounts of free advertising the student athletes bring to both the university and community.

 

[muthed]

No they are not getting anything “ for free”. They give their bodies, time, heart and soul for scholarships that can be taken at any time for any reason and usually aren’t more than a year anyway. Look at the numbers of how few athletes playing football GRADUATE with a degree and it exposes the b.s. you are trying to sell. Not to mention the athletes don’t get the scholarships, it is money transferred on paper between school departments. It’s not cash in their pockets to do with as they choose. Meanwhile these young men are earning BILLIONS for the NCAA, conferences, schools, networks, etc. And don’t get a DIME of it. But everyone else sure is getting rich off their suffering and sacrifice.

Here's some information on how schollys work. Scholarships are not actually money. They are discounts. I found this out when I inquired about academic scholarships that were offered to students but were not accepted. I asked where that unclaimed money went. That's when I was told that scholarships are really discounts on the cost of attendance. However, I believe athletic scholarships are a different breed. When an athlete is granted a scholarship, the athletic department transfers money from its revenues to the university.

 

[Buckaineer]

Here's some information on how schollys work. Scholarships are not actually money. They are discounts. I found this out when I inquired about academic scholarships that were offered to students but were not accepted. I asked where that unclaimed money went. That's when I was told that scholarships are really discounts on the cost of attendance. However, I believe athletic scholarships are a different breed. When an athlete is granted a scholarship, the athletic department transfers money from its revenues to the university.

Right and it’s only paper money— the university or some entity sets an amount of value for a scholarship and then transfers that financial amt over to the university at large. They dont give it to the student athlete. The athlete is assigned a room and some pass to eat etc and then the athletic department directs their every move and action until they leave the university. And of course there is also a portion of athletes who must pay their own way for the hope of earning a scholarship But also follow all the rules.

 

[WVUALLEN]

While most scholarship money comes from the college itself, there are some ways for student-athletes to receive funding from private sources. Many athletic departments have endowment scholarships set up by former athletes or alumni who support a specific sport or cause.

Simply put, an athletic scholarship is an amount of financial aid given to a student-athlete from a collegiate athletic department. It is awarded based on the student’s athletic abilities and anticipated contribution to the team. The team’s coach is tasked with deciding who to award scholarships to, as well as how much money each student-athlete receives.

Most athletic scholarships are guaranteed for one year and must be renewed by the athlete and the coach every year.

If athletes are injured, not contributing to the team enough, struggling to maintain their grades, etc., they can lose their scholarship.

Some top recruits have been able to negotiate guaranteed four-year athletic scholarships but this is rare and relegated to the highest-level athletes.

https://www.sportsengine.com/article/how-do-athletic-and-academic-scholarships-work

Athletic scholarships, which are primarily sponsored by colleges, universities and national sporting foundations like the NCAA, grants for student athletes may be supported by any number of different sources. Businesses and corporations with ties to the sporting industry often offer college grants for student athletes, as do regional and national athletic associations. Students looking for athletic grants for college will want to start their search by focusing on their sport of choice. For example, a high school tennis player will want to search for businesses or professional associations that support grants for exceptional tennis players, concentrating on manufacturers of tennis equipment, and national and regional tennis associations.

https://www.scholarships.com/financ...s/scholarships-by-type/athletic-scholarships/

NCAA Divisions I and II schools provide more than $3.6 billion in athletics scholarships annually to more than 180,000 student-athletes. Division III schools do not offer athletics scholarships.

Only about two-percent of high school athletes are awarded athletics scholarships to compete in college. Of the student-athletes participating in sports with professional leagues, very few become professional athletes. A college education is the most rewarding benefit of the student-athlete experience.

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Full scholarships cover tuition and fees, room, board and course-related books. Most student-athletes who receive athletics scholarships receive an amount covering a portion of these costs. Many student-athletes also benefit from academic scholarships, NCAA financial aid programs such as the NCAA Division I Student-Athlete Opportunity Fund and need-based aid such as Federal Pell Grants.
Division I schools may provide student-athletes with multiyear scholarships. Additionally, Division I schools may pay for student-athletes to finish their bachelor's or master's degrees after they finish playing NCAA sports.

If a school plans to reduce or not renew a student-athlete’s aid, the school must notify the student-athlete in writing by July 1 and provide an opportunity to appeal. In most cases, coaches decide who receives a scholarship, the scholarship amount and whether it will be renewed.

https://www.ncaa.org/sports/2014/10/6/scholarships.aspx

 

[MountaineerWV]

Idiot, they got a small boost a few years back after lawsuits— a few thousand dollars. Meanwhile look at loser Brown and other such coaches and ADS raking in MILLIONS off the backs of these players. They don’t receive ”free” anything- they have a very full work and exercise routine year round that takes them far out of a normal students routine, but for which they receive next to nothing after working over a forty hour workweek and having every minutia of their lives scrutinized from classes and grades to exercise and nutrition to any work they maybe able to do outside of football if any. Your children aren’t doing **** for anyone but themselves and can manage their own schedules while these athletes are giving years of their lives while someone else reaps all of the rewards and the university rakes in millions per year from tv money to donations to merchandise and beverage sales and tickets to students and tremendous amounts of free advertising the student athletes bring to both the university and community.

These "athletes" receive FREE tutors, and special privileges that normal students do not get. They have access to professional weight training, and professional physical therapists, just to name a few things.

Why are you so bothered by this? Players are getting a lot more than they should be getting. If they don't like it, they can choose NOT TO PLAY. It is that simple.

 

[12375CAT]

Sad, but that's a must.

I suggest every 'Eer shows up for the game with paper shopping bags over their heads[thumbsup]