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My teams kind of crumbled in the playoffs. Looking like I'll finish 2nd, 3rd, and 4th.
What sucked this time was that two different teams more or less lost because my opponent got huge points in overtime games.. Last week it was another 10pts for Chubba, and this week it was another 20 from a Burrow/Higgins stack.. all in overtime. Extremely unlucky, but thats fantasy playoffs. Wish you had more of an advantage for being the higher seed to offset the randomness/bad matchups (Washington against Philly last week, for example).. ive often thought that the higher seeds should be spotted 10 or 15 points.
But I'll take league regular season champ in all 3.
What sucked this time was that two different teams more or less lost because my opponent got huge points in overtime games.. Last week it was another 10pts for Chubba, and this week it was another 20 from a Burrow/Higgins stack.. all in overtime. Extremely unlucky, but thats fantasy playoffs. Wish you had more of an advantage for being the higher seed to offset the randomness/bad matchups (Washington against Philly last week, for example).. ive often thought that the higher seeds should be spotted 10 or 15 points.
But I'll take league regular season champ in all 3.
Indeed! Easily one of his best games along with the Ravens game a few years back when he nearly caught 200 yards.
Chase was great, but I feel like he also could have been even bigger.. Chases holdout meant he had a cold start to the season, and while he had some great games where he really popped.. it almost felt like a shared WR tandem, even to the point where Higgins was better at times.. especially as Chase drew the best CB (like Surtain last night). Makes me wonder if these two won't be closer in their draft ADP next year.
Noticed an interesting trend this year: all 3 teams that are about to win the title had a draft pick in the 8-9 range. Maybe its a coincidence, but I also think the top6 or 7 picks all had some problems. CMC lost season, CeeDee and Tyreek lost their QB, Chase had his holdout, Hall was lost on the Jets at times and even Bijan only just turned it up late. I think having a high pick means you're picking a guy based on what he DID the last few seasons, which almost inherently means a lot of usage and a lot of wear.
Another interesting thing: 6 of the top7 W/R/T positions were running backs and the top13 of 15 were running backs. RBs dominated this year. And it makes me wonder if there's some truth to the idea of keeping defensive backs on top and bottom of WRs, and if that's why receivers had such a tough time across the NFL. Might be good to remember for next year and if the pendulum won't swing to emphasize RBs again.
I don't see Chase and Higgins on the same team next year unfortunately and that is coming from a Bengals fan that would love to have both back. They can give him another franchise tag but risk holding out and he has previously requested a trade before. I expect Chase will be the top WR off the board. Chase still has nearly a 70-point lead over Jefferson in Minnesota. 4.3 more Fantasy PPG. Even with the slow start and the Bengals usually playing catchup the first few weeks with Taylor's preseason approach with the starters. As good as Amon-Ra St. Brown is, I would take the volume of Chase over him with all of the mouths to feed in that Detroit offense which is much deeper than in Cincinnati. I was fortunate to have both Chase/St. Brown in one league this year after parting with LaPorta earlier. I do see Cincinnati getting a extension done to keep Chase/Burrow tandem going on. Tee's draft position will no doubt rise on a new team if he is gone as I expect he will sign somewhere he is the clear-cut #1 option in the offense.
My son is in the championship game of his league, Small wonder as I have never seen a owner lose as many players as him to injuries.
Just a SMALL list :
Chris Olave
Christian McCaffrey
Dallas Goedert
Taysom Hill
Deandre Hopkins
Rahem Mostert
Nick Chubb
Isiah Pacheco
Rashee Rice
Chris Godwin
Joe Mixon
Chuba Hubbard was a HUGE loss for the championship yesterday as he was on a tear. He also lost of couple of kickers and a few more players I am forgetting.
Just a SMALL list :
Chris Olave
Christian McCaffrey
Dallas Goedert
Taysom Hill
Deandre Hopkins
Rahem Mostert
Nick Chubb
Isiah Pacheco
Rashee Rice
Chris Godwin
Joe Mixon
Chuba Hubbard was a HUGE loss for the championship yesterday as he was on a tear. He also lost of couple of kickers and a few more players I am forgetting.
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It is this week. His line up was :
Josh Allen
Jerome Ford (late waiver wire after Hubbard injury)
Joe Mixon (**** the bed)
Justin Jefferson
Darnelll Mooney
Davante Adams (Aaron Rodgers quit on the team)
Rome Odunze
Pat Freiermuth
Jake Moody (K 49ers tonight)
Rams Defense
It was a mash unit, and a couple guys didn't perform. Hell he got a break with his opponent leaving Alvin Kamara in his lineup. I told him to play Michael Pittman instead of Odunze, but both teams suck and Pittman hadn't done **** until yesterday. it didn't help him that McConkey, Nacua, and Mike Evans went off against him. Just those 3 players dropped 80 on him. McConkey and Evans 30+ and Nacua 23.
Josh Allen
Jerome Ford (late waiver wire after Hubbard injury)
Joe Mixon (**** the bed)
Justin Jefferson
Darnelll Mooney
Davante Adams (Aaron Rodgers quit on the team)
Rome Odunze
Pat Freiermuth
Jake Moody (K 49ers tonight)
Rams Defense
It was a mash unit, and a couple guys didn't perform. Hell he got a break with his opponent leaving Alvin Kamara in his lineup. I told him to play Michael Pittman instead of Odunze, but both teams suck and Pittman hadn't done **** until yesterday. it didn't help him that McConkey, Nacua, and Mike Evans went off against him. Just those 3 players dropped 80 on him. McConkey and Evans 30+ and Nacua 23.
Even with all of his injuries, if he would have had Hubbard, and Davante Adams and Mixon had average games it would have been over. He needs Moody the kicker for the 49ers to kick field goals after field goals. it all comes down to a kicker, lol. But injuries and subpar performances happen, that is FFL. The $250 2nd place cash will help ease some of the pain. $500 would have been better, but $250 is not chump change. I suggested before Hubbard was put on IR, he call the guy and maybe agree to split the prize money. He didn't do it.
Nah, you can't do that. It's not about the cash, it is about winning, but by the same token agreeing ahead of time to chop the winnings isn't cool, IMHO.
Love that guy. He was one of my favorites coming out in his draft class. If they can get him the ball, he can do big things.
Wait.. what? How does he have all these guys? Is this a 4-team league with a 15-player bench? lol.
What a dump of an organization, now certifiably in last place of all 4 major sports leagues, if there was ever any doubt.
Last I heard they interviewed River Boat Ron Rivera, which would be so Jets like to hire that guy.
My honest to God hope, is that the Woody Johnson family private jet crashes into the Atlantic. Like, they survive, I'm not a monster.. but they have to swim back to shore and during this time the team has to be sold to someone else, and right as the ink dries to Elon Musk or Jeff Bezos signing the team and planning a new Upper West Side stadium, The Johnson family washes up to shore, alive, but with no team, and about 100 jellyfish stings on their balls.
Waiver wire. Some players who was on the roster early in the season, are not now. It is a 10 team auction style draft. I helped him and I always used the waiver wire and add/ drop to get the best matchups weekly unless a player is a stud / must start. Did you not read my post ? He has had a **** on of injuries. Some recent, some out for the year / IR. Hell he lost 2 kickers for the year during the regular season. All of the players listed above was not current roster, only the last post listed his starting lineup for yesterday. (3 WRs + Flex)
QB - Josh Allen - No need to carry a 2nd QB after his BYE week. It help add a extra skill position player.
RB - Joe Mixon
RB - Jerome Ford
WR - Justin Jefferson
WR - Davante Adams
WR - Darnell Moody
TE - Pat Freiermuth
FL - Rome Odunze
K - Jake Moody
Def - Rams
WR position was a premium (start 3 and can use 1 for flex) so he carried several. You could either have a roster built around WR or RB, so with starting 3 WRs it only made sense to draft or roster more than RB's. Especially with the NFL being more of a platoon at the RB position. He had stout RBs but lost SEVERAL to injuries during the year and Hubbard before the championship. McCaffrey, Chubb, Pacheco all finished on IR and in Pacheco's case, had just came back but was dropped. WR's Rice and Olave was on IR, all the other spent a good portion of the season on IR and was dropped for injury and poor production. Goedert and Hill also ended on IR.
Not having RB depth (ended losing a couple studs) is what got him beat. If he just had Hubbard he would have been fine, but he had to scramble and drop him and add Ford before the games this week. Mixon didn't help with his **** the bed game. He got 8 points combined from his RBs, Ford had 22 yards in the 1st quarter and never carried the ball again (another injury ?). His only other RB on the roster was Mostert and he got demoted to 3rd string. Normally Mixon and Hubbard would have been plenty at RB with his stud receivers, he just had too many subpar games for ALL starters other than Josh Aleen and TE Freiermuth. Jefferson had a OK game (17.2), but not scoring a TD hurt.
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Such a circus man. Should be looking at Slownik, Brady, Johnson or Vrabel before these over the hill, washed up coaches.
There must be something about an auction league that I'm not familiar with. Because in a redraft, there's no way you'd have a team like that.
So for instance, how was he able to get CMC, Jefferson, Olave, Pacheco, Mixon and Josh Allen on one team? Thats arguably 6 guys in the top35ish of adp. Even if he didn't draft these guys, and got some on Waivers, they really should have never been dropped.. but again maybe I'm missing something about an auction league.
Edit: maybe if there's no IR spots to use to hold players (or even if there's just 1 spot), that might be why players could be dropped i guess. In the leagues I run/am in, no one is dropping a quality player unless they are out for the year or that league mate is a taco lol.
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Some teams/players just drop and draft weird. In my 12 team league I think Josh Allen was early 4th. It's a live draft so there isn't an auto draft. But I drafted 6th and I had a choice of Hill, Chase, CeeDee, and Amon Ra. I picked Hill because Chase I was afraid of a holdout and CeeDee had not had a new contract yet. So many players fell in our league.
My two teams still alive for the championship aren't in comfortable spots. One down just under 13 points and the another slightly above 24 points. The team down 24 went 12-2, but the injuries to Montgomery and Tua's injury leaving an impact on everyone in Miami with Achane on this team depleted my RB depth last week. Hard to win without one quality RB. I am seriously considering taking a chance on starting Ray Davis this week in the event Buffalo rest their starters like James Cook. Davis could be in line for a good workload. No guarantees but it seems like a plausible scenario. It is a dart throw, but the lack of RB alternatives puts me in a bind.
Hoping Tua gets healthy for this last one with Miami still not eliminated so that Achane can give me more than 5 points. I flat out don't trust Rachaad White after getting burned for the last time since he seems to be on the wrong end of the timeshare in Tampa Bay with Bucky Irving. White averages 13 FPPG, but I can't afford another 4-point bust from him 2 weeks in a row. ESPN's projections have both White & Davis at 10.3 FPPG this week. I picked up Raheem Blackshear for depth, though I am not comfortable starting him after only mustering up 2 points in Hubbard's absence. Tyrone Tracy goes up against the Eagles running defense giving up the 10th fewest yards and 9 touchdowns on the ground all year. Eagles clinched, maybe Tracy would have an efficient game if Philly rests some of their defensive weapons in this one. Tough choices to make with the championship on the line.
Hoping Tua gets healthy for this last one with Miami still not eliminated so that Achane can give me more than 5 points. I flat out don't trust Rachaad White after getting burned for the last time since he seems to be on the wrong end of the timeshare in Tampa Bay with Bucky Irving. White averages 13 FPPG, but I can't afford another 4-point bust from him 2 weeks in a row. ESPN's projections have both White & Davis at 10.3 FPPG this week. I picked up Raheem Blackshear for depth, though I am not comfortable starting him after only mustering up 2 points in Hubbard's absence. Tyrone Tracy goes up against the Eagles running defense giving up the 10th fewest yards and 9 touchdowns on the ground all year. Eagles clinched, maybe Tracy would have an efficient game if Philly rests some of their defensive weapons in this one. Tough choices to make with the championship on the line.
Your league still plays in week 18? I would change that ASAP for next year. Already a lot of word about players resting for week 18 and thats going to ruin fantasy teams hopes. Won't matter how good Saquon Barkley is, if he's sitting on the bench.
The playoff formats are 2 rounds consisting of 2 weeks each for the final 4 regular season games. Which made it even more frustrating for my 3rd team that was eliminated by the #1 team. Between late season matchup we had at the end of the season, the 2-week playoff round for a combined 3 weeks. I took two losses by a combined 1.18 points and our teams were that even over the course of 3 weeks. I'm still pissed off about that one.
None of my RBs are effected negatively by rest, injuries and time shares are my issues. Picked up Gainwell since it was announced Barkley is being rested and noticed Conner was placed on IR. Picked up Michael Carter in the one I had Conner in. These last-ditch efforts with backups trying to determine which ones to play while teams rest starters are my only shot at making a comeback in the 2 leagues I am still alive in.
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Yeah i mean eliminating week 18 won't solve all your fantasy woes.. but it should be a non-starter for next year's leagues you're in: the championship rounds needs to be the 2nd to last game of the actual season, or earlier. No exceptions.
Finished 2nd 4th and 4th, despite being a 1-seed with the bye in 3 of 3 leagues. My teams basically gave me it's worst performance last week, and the 2nd worst performance this week, the entire year. The championship week was the ONLY week I went 0 got 3 in all three leagues. At worst during regular season, I would atleast win one league for that given week. But usually 2 of 3 or 3 of 3.. plus all my opponents put up monster games for these 6 total games.. just bad luck all around.
You must be in a custom league or something different with a league manager where you all have the say in it. These are ESPN public leagues and they determine playoff format. Don't recall any options for the fantasy playoff format when signing up. I'm used to fantasy leagues where the final 4 weeks of the season are used for the playoffs. Navigating the last weekend of the season is all part of it in these leagues I guess.
I have always played in leagues that use the last week of the regular season, so it comes as news to me that everyone else's seasons are over as if that is the norm. Like I said, member's don't determine the playoff format in a public league such as these so there is nothing I could do about changing it even if I wanted to. I prefer still playing the final week with the actual season still going on and using this last week determining which players will get reps as I will need it trailing currently. It is the only chance I have of making a comeback in my bottom league with the losses of Montgomery at RB and if Tua is out impacting Achane's overall production. Starting Nix over Allen in that league for obvious reasons this week.
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I have always played in leagues that use the last week of the regular season, so it comes as news to me that everyone else's seasons are over as if that is the norm. Like I said, member's don't determine the playoff format in a public league such as these so there is nothing I could do about changing it even if I wanted to. I prefer still playing the final week with the actual season still going on and using this last week determining which players will get reps as I will need it trailing currently. It is the only chance I have of making a comeback in my bottom league with the losses of Montgomery at RB and if Tua is out impacting Achane's overall production. Starting Nix over Allen in that league for obvious reasons this week.
I think its one of those setting that once you change you'll wonder why waited so long. Of course you're kind of stuck as these are public leagues. But my thought in fantasy is that once these regular season teams start to rest players, you're fantasy leagues need to be done. So week 17 needs to be the championship game. Same concept with basketball. We went 21 weeks and then playoffs, which means it would end sometime in mid April.. and that was such a crap shoot time when teams that were out of the playoff contention might not even play their stars, and the title contenders would start limiting theirs.
But I guess the final week does add some nuance as to who will get rested and who the pickups are. I would just be so pissed if I'm the owner of guys like Barkley and Gibbs, two guys that you know are going to be rested. What they should so here is just allow a setting tweak where you can choose to take these players season averages, and you get that score. Or even if you can do something like 80% of their average.
Won the championship 272-246 with the top team here. Smoked by 37 points, 287-250 with the 2nd team. My 3 teams finished 1st, 2nd & 4th.
Well, I enjoyed an outstanding season and finished first.
Took me only 11 years.
/earned bragging rights.
Took me only 11 years.
/earned bragging rights.
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Always the best when you can rub it in to long standing league mates. Even better when you get this weeks high score to boot. I've enjoyed the sweep in one league these last two weeks.Well, I enjoyed an outstanding season and won finished first.
Took me only 11 years.
/earned bragging rights.
Thats probably the one piece of prep work i never do.. and i dont really have a strong reason why. I guess i feel like my actual drafts are never going to be like an online mock in terms of who picks where, and all its going to do is make me think the draft will go a specific way.
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Looking at which draft picks id want in a 10 team.
2nd pick - You're either getting Bijan or Chase and thats your tier 1 IMO.
7 through 10th - Nabors, Jefferson, CeeDee, maybe CMC, while also retaining a good backswing pick.
I really dont like picks 3 through 5. Because it means youre looking at Gibbs (new OC and Montgomery there), Saquon (way too many touches last year), or maybe one of the guys I mentioned above.. but why grab them at 3-5 when one will for sure fall to you in the 7-10 range.
2nd pick - You're either getting Bijan or Chase and thats your tier 1 IMO.
7 through 10th - Nabors, Jefferson, CeeDee, maybe CMC, while also retaining a good backswing pick.
I really dont like picks 3 through 5. Because it means youre looking at Gibbs (new OC and Montgomery there), Saquon (way too many touches last year), or maybe one of the guys I mentioned above.. but why grab them at 3-5 when one will for sure fall to you in the 7-10 range.
Undistinguished Gentlemen (N.O.B.) draft August 17. Our 13th season begins shortly after.
My league uses the Sleeper App. I highly suggest it. Im in a 12 man half ppr. It's pretty damn competitive at $175 buy in. I like to mock draft in different positions 1-12 to prepare as best as I can for the draft.
I've got the 8 spot in my ten man league. This is the one we've been drafting since 1995.
You have to leave the draft with 3 QB, 4 RB, 5 WR, 2 TE, 2 K, and 2 D, so you can't keep a super deep sleeper on your roster. You start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K and 1 D.
With that many WR starting, I am leaning toward Puka, Naybors, or St. Brown at my spot.
You have to leave the draft with 3 QB, 4 RB, 5 WR, 2 TE, 2 K, and 2 D, so you can't keep a super deep sleeper on your roster. You start 1 QB, 2 RB, 3 WR, 1 TE, 1 K and 1 D.
With that many WR starting, I am leaning toward Puka, Naybors, or St. Brown at my spot.
I'd roll with Naybers. There isn't much behind him. I like St Brown but Jameson Williams is gonna break out this year
Yeah thats tricky. All three of those WRs have some questions. I really am worried about Puka's own injuries and Stafford seems like hes already hurt. I find it very unlikely he plays a full 17.
Jameson looks to be stepping up. Detroit has a new OC who reportedly isnt turning heads just yet, and they have maybe the best running back tandem in the game. So im leaning Nabors here. Hes a dawg.
Speaking of the Giants.. that front 4 of theirs is very interesting. Abdul Carter looks like a beast already.. and you have Thibs, Lawrence and Burns along side of him. This could be a sneaky good defense. Definitely stream worthy.
Jameson looks to be stepping up. Detroit has a new OC who reportedly isnt turning heads just yet, and they have maybe the best running back tandem in the game. So im leaning Nabors here. Hes a dawg.
Speaking of the Giants.. that front 4 of theirs is very interesting. Abdul Carter looks like a beast already.. and you have Thibs, Lawrence and Burns along side of him. This could be a sneaky good defense. Definitely stream worthy.
Hes just one of a few too many risks for ASBR. Now, theres also risks with Nabers for sure. But I think that just comes down to the QB.. and i like Wilson, Dart, Tommy Cutlets and my dead grandmother's throwing the ball over Daniel Jones. I think Malik Nabers has the talent to be the #1 wr next year or soon thereafter, where as I dont think Amon-ra is quite that level of WR.
So with Detroit, you have an emerging WR who might actually be a better talent than Sungod, you got a new OC, you got a legit RB room along with a top TE.. and I worry about Goff.. hes not gonna have as many dome games this year I dont believe. The SOS is much tougher.
All that said.. its splitting hairs. I just favor nabers a little more.
This is something I used last year that was a huge help: Someone was able to determine that the draft-day app rankings (Yahoo, etc) are always a little different than what you see on the apps website.. no idea why, happens every year. But it can really throw off your draft if the guy you want in the 5th, is somehow ranked in the 4th, therefore meaning someone will likely grab him.
firstseedsports.com
Using this excel document was huge for mapping out exactly where "my guys" would be presented in the draft. Take note that it updates every Friday. So use the latest copy. But I cross-reference this with my own rankings to determine who I want, and who will be available, round by round. Obviously it doesn't take into account if someone reaches 2 rounds early for someone.. but definitely useful otherwise.
Abusing Draft Rankings 2025 - First Seed Sports
Find fantasy football draft values in your specific draft room for 2025 with this spreadsheet. Beat your league-specific draft rankings.
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Using this excel document was huge for mapping out exactly where "my guys" would be presented in the draft. Take note that it updates every Friday. So use the latest copy. But I cross-reference this with my own rankings to determine who I want, and who will be available, round by round. Obviously it doesn't take into account if someone reaches 2 rounds early for someone.. but definitely useful otherwise.