Fayette County Schools - Going to Gender Neutral Bathrooms

HagginHall1999

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I dunno if it is just me, but sounds like they would need someone to monitor the bathroom 24/7. It would be pretty easy for a boyfriend/girlfriend to take advantage of the "upgraded" bathrooms.
 

HagginHall1999

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No matter what anything thinks, it should be noted bidets should be a requirement. If no bidet, no upgrade.

The world's greatest invention.
 
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100% agree with this about bidets. Flipping heathens otherwise.
I like individual bathrooms, especially because of my affinity for chili and buffalo wings.

If schools want to go this route, fine. The issue, as always, is who is paying for it. Same with NYC restaurants feeling pressure to split their bathrooms up, in already very tight spaces where square footage is everything. Who is paying for this? And should restaurants (and schools) have the right to say "we don't want this"? I believe so.
I think businesses should be able to decide if they want to serve or not serve anyone they choose.
I’m just glad none of your kids have to deal with this stuff. You may see another side of the coin.
Me too, because I’m not having kids, seems like an awful waste of time and resources.
 
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Lol god bless all of you. This thread was several hours of the same three to four posters acting like children fighting with each other on a random Wednesday evening about bathrooms while a couple internet stalkers repeatedly tried to get me involved in the foolishness. This was what you did with your entire evening. I won $180 on DraftKings and listened to music. You guys argued for hours about toilets.

Holy hell.

Looks like the Hall Monitor has a social media influencer marketing deal with Draft Kings. Well done, HM! Let’s go lay down some bets!!!
 
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Watching liberals struggle with the fact there are only 2 genders is still hard to understand. Throw in their inability to distinguish between the two is even more wacked.
 
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Watching liberals struggle with the fact there are only 2 genders is still hard to understand. Throw in their inability to distinguish between the two is even more wacked.

And, then, throw in the mentally ill claim of being non-binary. It’s like someone sees a blue sky and their cult tells them it is red so they scramble to defend the claim it is red.
 
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I only read part of this thread…. not going to go through all of it. So similar thought may have already been shared. But…

1. This is dumb. Separate boys and girls bathrooms have been fine for, well, forever. Everyone should know which restroom they are “supposed” to use and conduct themselves accordingly. I don’t care what gender you think you are, be whatever you want. But you use the restroom for your biological sex at birth, end of story. This nonsense of gender neutral bathrooms is just pandering to woke sensibilities.

2. If they INSIST on not identifying restrooms according to biological sex, fine. They’re building all these individual private stalls. Just go ahead and make each “stall” its own bathroom with toilet and sink. Problem solved. That’s not much of a stretch from what they apparently plan to do now anyway.

If I’m a teacher, I want to see see what’s going on between boys and girls in the “common” areas of the bathrooms.

It's that easy. The fact they're doing it the other way is a clear indicator it's about shoving a political view down people's throats instead of creating a solution.
 

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Crazy that we have books as far back as the Kama Sutra that mention people that don't fall within the binary and it still seems to go over the heads of some. Maybe a recorded history of Two Spirit people amongst 150+ Native American tribes could help people understand the concept.
 
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Welcome to 1980s Europe where this has been common for decades and no one freaks out.

I recently ate at a restaurant in downtown Nashville where both bathrooms had a little man and a little woman symbol by both doors. I took a piss and left. As I was exiting, a woman was walking in. I should’ve gotten really mad about it and demanded to speak with several managers.
 

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I worked at a full service gas station when I was in high school back in the seventies. About once a week, some sputter-*** would **** blast the toilet. I had to sanitize that *****. Oh the good ole days😂
 

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If the school system has any intention at all in achieving their stated objective, they'd literally just make several single person bathrooms.
This is what they are doing. They are literally making several single person bathrooms. You go into your single person bathroom to do your business and then you wash your hands in a pubic space, which people do all the time.

Ever been to a concert or large scale event? What do they have...single person bathrooms (port-o-potties) and then everyone comes out and uses the public hand washing station if it's available. I'm not sure what the outrage is about.

Ever been to Europe? These are everywhere and it's nothing new over there.
 
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Privacy is great. As adults, we love privacy. Middle school kids do weird ish in public - imagine what they do in private. You give a kid a completely private four walls with access to their friends and the opposite sex to join them, they'll 100% do weird ish. They can vape, they can bully kids, they can have sex, etc. They can still do this in bathrooms right now, don't get me wrong, but depending on the layout of these bathrooms the ideas might pop into kids' heads more. I don't care about the whole non-gendered bathrooms. I care more about the devious stuff kids might do with it. Seems like a behavior/discipline issue waiting to happen.
 
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This is what they are doing. They are literally making several single person bathrooms. You go into your single person bathroom to do your business and then you wash your hands in a pubic space, which people do all the time.

Ever been to a concert or large scale event? What do they have...single person bathrooms (port-o-potties) and then everyone comes out and uses the public hand washing station if it's available. I'm not sure what the outrage is about.

Ever been to Europe? These are everywhere and it's nothing new over there.

Not unless it's different than it reads. Stalls do not amount to stand alone bathrooms. Imagine a young girl trying to take care of monthly issues in the midst of boys. That's just for starters. Doesn't even account for the other obvious concerns.

Yes I have been to Europe. Europe doing something is no way an argument for us doing something
 

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Not unless it's different than it reads. Stalls do not amount to stand alone bathrooms. Imagine a young girl trying to take care of monthly issues in the midst of boys. That's just for starters. Doesn't even account for the other obvious concerns.
It's not a stall as you're thinking. There are no openings to look into the space. It's a small room with a door on it that has a toilet in it. It's 100% private. I just think people have a different visual than what these actually are. A young woman going in would be no different than if she went into a single use bathroom at a convenience store. The only difference is they don't have a sink in there.
 

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When I was in high school, teachers had to lock the bathrooms cause kids would go in there to do all kinds of crap. Was such a hassle to get them unlocked when I was touching cotton in an emergency situation. With this new setup, these kids won't have to go through the struggles that my classmates and I had.
Touching cotton??? 🤣🤣🤣🤣
 

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I was talking with a doctor recently who completely rejects any scientific basis for multiple genders or non-binary. In fact, he says he is a gay man who is offended by the alphabet cult’s push, because he knows he is a man and that being a man is not just one thing, there is a broad spectrum as to what is “manly.” But, two genders.

Here, we actually have someone citing an ancient text for their scientific case, a person who rejects the Bible because, in part, it is an ancient text.

He once posted: “And the beautiful thing about science is that it is always updating itself as we continue to gain knowledge as opposed to a book written thousands of years ago that we try to equate to life today.”
 

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I was talking with a doctor recently who completely rejects any scientific basis for multiple genders or non-binary. In fact, he says he is a gay man who is offended by the alphabet cult’s push, because he knows he is a man and that being a man is not just one thing, there is a broad spectrum as to what is “manly.” But, two genders.
Useless anecdote
Here, we actually have someone citing an ancient text for their scientific case, a person who rejects the Bible because, in part, it is an ancient text.
If you must speak on me, you can at the very least @ me so you know that I’m gonna see it. That seems to be a constant issue with you. Also, I reject the Bible for much bigger issues than the simple fact that it’s old.
He once posted: “And the beautiful thing about science is that it is always updating itself as we continue to gain knowledge as opposed to a book written thousands of years ago that we try to equate to life today.”
I’m not trying to equate how I live my life to the Kama Sutra, just simply stating that trans/non-binary people have been mentioned in society as far back as when that text was written and not some brand new thing that this generation made up. You would realize that if your comprehension skills were up to par.

And God said to his people: “show my love by fighting on the internet with strangers EVERY DAY.”
 
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Crazy that we have books as far back as the Kama Sutra that mention people that don't fall within the binary and it still seems to go over the heads of some. Maybe a recorded history of Two Spirit people amongst 150+ Native American tribes could help people understand the concept.

If you are to respond to my post, have the curtesy to @ me, because gosh how in the world would I know??? 🤦‍♂️
 

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Useless anecdote

Yeah, a chemist with a medical degree who practices medicine is far less reliable than you referencing the Kama Sutra and a Google search. Gotcha! 😂

I’m not trying to equate how I live my life to the Kama Sutra, just simply stating that trans/non-binary people have been mentioned in society as far back as when that text was written and not some brand new thing that this generation made up. You would realize that if your comprehension skills were up to par.

Oh, that is why you cited the Kama Sutra? It was not to show there have been sick people for centuries?

And, by the way, trans people know there are two genders.
 

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Yeah, a chemist with a medical degree who practices medicine is far less reliable than you referencing the Kama Sutra and a Google search. Gotcha! 😂
I didn't realize that chemists have such strong knowledge on gender ideology compared to the average human being. Guess I should've paid more attention back in chemistry class, would've learned a lot more about all of the genders.
Oh, that is why you cited the Kama Sutra? It was not to show there have been sick people for centuries?
If you're still confused about why I referenced something after I specifically told you my reasoning then that's a big you problem.
And, by the way, trans people know there are two genders.
Oh, do they now? You sure know a whole lot about trans people and their thoughts about gender ideology despite how much you dunk on their existence.
 
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It's not a stall as you're thinking. There are no openings to look into the space. It's a small room with a door on it that has a toilet in it. It's 100% private. I just think people have a different visual than what these actually are. A young woman going in would be no different than if she went into a single use bathroom at a convenience store. The only difference is they don't have a sink in there.

No it's exactly what it sounds like. A stall is a stall even if they want to put a door on it. The very fact you effort to twist and turn facts shows you know you're in the wrong but you just don't care because it's about pushing an agenda.

At least in a business setting someone can and often do choose to spend money elsewhere. In public schools, parents get no choice because school choice is repeatedly blocked by the same people who want to force kids into bathrooms together.

Leave kids alone and stop being Uber weirdos
 
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Every post is meant for the entire thread, friend.
Right, right but you've been on here long enough to understand the difference between talking specifically about someone and making a statement that can apply to several people at once.
 

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There are two sexes, and only two. Everyone is born (not assigned) one or the other as a biological reality: intersex is a genetic deformity, one is still either born one or the other, never both.

Gender used to be synonymous with sex, and it still is (should be for anyone who can think). Your "gender" is your sex, the outward expression of your sex through your personality and how that relates to whatever roles you take in society.

Changing your personality and appearance, hormone therapy or medical intervention (money, money!), or your clothes or whatever, so as to be more typical of the other sex, does not change your gender. It is not possible to change your sex. You can "change" whatever role you want: it's a free country, but you can never become the other gender. One can never change their sex.

Pseudo-sophisticated sociologists have hoodwinked many gullible fools into a perverse, non-scientific agenda that tells them otherwise. Let it take over your children at your own peril, like it does certain communities where 30% of children identify as trans due to this psychological contagion, incompetent parenting.
 
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I didn't realize that chemists have such strong knowledge on gender ideology compared to the average human being. Guess I should've paid more attention back in chemistry class, would've learned a lot more about all of the genders.

From the guy citing the Kama Sutra and Google. You should also pay more attention in medical school. 😆
Oh, do they now? You sure know a whole lot about trans people and their thoughts about gender ideology despite how much you dunk on their existence.

Dunk on their existence? What does that even mean? Show when I “dunked on their existence. “

Trans people desire to identify with the other gender. They know there are two genders and they don’t want to be seen as the gender assigned by biology.
 

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Right, right but you've been on here long enough to understand the difference between talking specifically about someone and making a statement that can apply to several people at once.

How could I have possibly known you would see that post??? I must have special posting powers!!!!
 

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From the guy citing the Kama Sutra and Google. You should also pay more attention in medical school. 😆
Your chemist anecdote sure does hold the same weight as all of the resources that can be found on Google. Guess when I need to look up something, I'll just ask the chemist.
Dunk on their existence? What does that even mean? Show when I “dunked on their existence. “
You called them sick people a couple posts ago
Trans people desire to identify with the other gender. They know there are two genders and they don’t want to be seen as the gender assigned by biology.
How do you know this? How many people trans people have you personally talked to about this? Why should those people be given the ability to speak on behalf of the entire trans community?
 

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Every gender neutral bathroom I’ve been in is a common area to wash your hands and completely private room stall with floor to ceiling walls to use the bathroom. Stop acting like it’s the damn end of the world and they are out to ruin your kids. Jesus Christ.
Only that kind of language ruin's kids. Then they turn into ruined, angry adults. lol
 

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Your chemist anecdote sure does hold the same weight as all of the resources that can be found on Google. Guess when I need to look up something, I'll just ask the chemist.

The body is made up of chemistry which is the foundation for the rest. It’s science. And, I am not sure what you think happens in four years of medical school. Unbelievable.
 

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No it's exactly what it sounds like. A stall is a stall even if they want to put a door on it. The very fact you effort to twist and turn facts shows you know you're in the wrong but you just don't care because it's about pushing an agenda.

At least in a business setting someone can and often do choose to spend money elsewhere. In public schools, parents get no choice because school choice is repeatedly blocked by the same people who want to force kids into bathrooms together.

Leave kids alone and stop being Uber weirdos
I'm not pushing any agenda. I'm not twisting and turning facts. I could care less if they have boys and girls bathrooms or one bathroom area. I'm just saying I have used these type of bathrooms at airports, conference centers, office buildings, restaurants, etc. Not once did it seem awkward, or weird, or an "agenda". When these things are up and running and kids go about their business with no effects whatsoever, I think people will realize this is much to do about nothing.
 
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The body is made up of chemistry which is the foundation for the rest. It’s science. And, I am not sure what you think happens in four years of medical school. Unbelievable.
It sure is. My fault for not realizing that this special chemist that you know is the go-to for all things gender ideology. Do you take his word on everything or just the things that you think too?
 

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It sure is. My fault for not realizing that this special chemist that you know is the go-to for all things gender ideology. Do you take his word on everything or just the things that you think too?

Who said anything about this doctor being the go-to for all things gender ideology? Gender ideology? Grow up.
 

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Who said anything about this doctor being the go-to for all things gender ideology. Gender ideology? Grow up.
You sure seem to be putting a whole lot of weight into what he's saying, even to the point that you seem to suggest he knows more than ANYTHING that can be found on Google. What happens if I find my own chemist with rivaling viewpoints from yours? Do I get to use mine as an anecdote too and it be just as valid?

You use the phrase and then ridicule me for using the phrase. How convenient.
 

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You sure seem to be putting a whole lot of weight into what he's saying, even to the point that you seem to suggest he knows more than ANYTHING that can be found on Google. What happens if I find my own chemist with rivaling viewpoints from yours? Do I get to use mine as an anecdote too and it be just as valid?

You use the phrase and then ridicule me for using the phrase. How convenient.

You are clearly triggered by the fact that a medical doctor with far more science education than you disagrees with your Google search.

EDIT: YOU used the phrase “gender ideology.” Are you a mid-afternoon drinker?
 

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You are clearly triggered by the fact that a medical doctor with far more science education than you disagrees with your Google search.

EDIT: YOU used the phrase “gender ideology.” Are you a mid-afternoon drinker?
He can think what he wants but you're using him solely for confirmation bias. Would his findings hold as much weight to you if they were completely opposite? If not, then really the only thing you care about is the fact that he agrees with you.

"Who said anything about this doctor being the go-to for all things gender ideology." Forgive me, were these my words here or yours. I definitely used them first but then you used them and proceeded to retroactively demean me for using them first. Strange.