Fayette County Schools to allow ALL grade levels to study Gender Identity, Expression , & Sexual Orientation

[LowerLevelSeatA]

https://www.lex18.com/news/covering...-plan-that-takes-advantage-of-sb-150-loophole

Fayette County is deciding to take advantage of a loophole. They are going to allow curriculum where students study gender identity, expression or sexual orientation for ALL kids kindergarten thru 12th grade. May want to be aware of what your kids are being taught at school…it’s not just math and science anymore. June 26 is the board meeting where you are free to voice your input.

 

[Bigtyrone]

It’s about time.

 

[Beatle Bum]

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-ben-shapiro-show/id1047335260?i=1000616506333

 

[LineSkiCat14]

As a brand new dad of a 5-day old girl.. it will be private school 100%, at least until high-school. If I sense she's going down that path, I'll always support her. But I want her learning actual important life skills during this time.

 

[JonathanW_rivals]

Meanwhile kids graduate without knowing: how to manage money, or how credit cards work, about how loans work, about saving for retirement, and many more important life skills. You can argue those are not the responsibility of education, but they are much closer than all of these personal choice indoctrination policies the extremist left are adding in.

 

[LowerLevelSeatA]

https://www.lex18.com/news/covering...-plan-that-takes-advantage-of-sb-150-loophole

An important update..this article from WLEX says their policy will allow students of ALL ages to learn about gender identity, gender expression, and sexual orientation. So your kindergartner will be talked to about their gender identity, gender expression, and sexual orientation by Fayette County public schools. Are you ok with this? Absolutely ridiculous. Public comment will be allowed at the June 26 board meeting. A strong showing would be important should you disagree. FCPS feels at this point they can get away with anything as the covid lockdowns and tax increases drew very little public opposition at board meetings.

 

[AIChatGPT]

Meanwhile kids graduate without knowing: how to manage money, or how credit cards work, about how loans work, about saving for retirement, and many more important life skills. You can argue those are not the responsibility of education, but they are much closer than all of these personal choice indoctrination policies the extremist left are adding in.

Parents can’t teach those skills?

 

[CaptainBoogerBuns]

As a brand new dad of a 5-day old girl.. it will be private school 100%, at least until high-school. If I sense she's going down that path, I'll always support her. But I want her learning actual important life skills during this time.

Congratulations on the new kid! I miss those days

 

[CaptainBoogerBuns]

Parents can’t teach those skills?

They can teach those things to their kids, but it’s hard to believe that time slotted for home-economics-type courses can’t be spent teaching those particular skills.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Parents can’t teach those skills?

I hate to be "that guy" because I'm in no way some experienced parent after not even a week.

But do you have kids?

The teachers job is to teach these things, not the parents. As an IT guy, Should i tell a teacher "you can fix your own computer"?

 

[Nightwish84]

Teachers can't teach a child everything. Some of it is up to parents. As far as "what happened to just teaching the basics?" goes, we were all taught **** none of us use, particularly in today's world. Some of the uncomfortableness of this is simply that some parents/older folks believe the educational system is trying to teach kids to be gay and/or groom them. It all goes back to that paranoid nonsense. Meanwhile, no one seemed upset when I was taught sex ed in 5th grade in catholic school. The teacher wasn't "grooming" us although with some of the religious folks that wouldn't have been shocking unfortunately.

 

[LowerLevelSeatA]

Teachers can't teach a child everything. Some of it is up to parents. As far as "what happened to just teaching the basics?" goes, we were all taught **** none of us use, particularly in today's world. Some of the uncomfortableness of this is simply that some parents/older folks believe the educational system is trying to teach kids to be gay and/or groom them. It all goes back to that paranoid nonsense. Meanwhile, no one seemed upset when I was taught sex ed in 5th grade in catholic school. The teacher wasn't "grooming" us although with some of the religious folks that wouldn't have been shocking unfortunately.

How old are your kids? As far as being paranoid, two years ago people were saying they aren’t trying to bring LGBTQ/transgender stuff into schools, you all are crazy if you think they would do that to a kindergartner. But many of us said, just wait slowly they will get there if we don’t stand up. Well, here we are today. What’s next?

 

[AIChatGPT]

I hate to be "that guy" because I'm in no way some experienced parent after not even a week.

But do you have kids?

The teachers job is to teach these things, not the parents. As an IT guy, Should i tell a teacher "you can fix your own computer"?

Parents can’t teach how loans works? You are pretty dumb for someone that thinks they have it all figured out.

And yeah, I have a 23 year old and a 15 year old.

 

[LowerLevelSeatA]

Parents can’t teach how loans works? You are pretty dumb for someone that thinks they have it all figured out.

And yeah, I have a 23 year old and a 15 year old.

Sure, parents can do that as well. Some do teach that, but many children don’t have responsible parents so if they don’t learn it at school, they never do. I think teaching a 6 year old about finances is much more important and appropriate than teaching a 6 year old that they may be transgender or gay. Your kids are older now so it’s easier for you to be cool with whatever but I highly doubt you would have been ok with your kindergartner having a course on transgender studies.

 

[cole854]

Liberal ignorance knows no bounds.

 

[Deeeefense]

Meanwhile kids graduate without knowing: how to manage money, or how credit cards work, about how loans work, about saving for retirement, and many more important life skills. You can argue those are not the responsibility of education, but they are much closer than all of these personal choice indoctrination policies the extremist left are adding in.

That's my perspective as well. On the one hand no one should be discriminated against due to their gender identify and orientation, but I have never understood why some believe explaining these issues should be a function of the public school system.

Time spend on this takes away time spend on other more important subjects, including the basic skills of reading, writing, math, science etc. My step son is a college professor. Renctly we were discussing education and he was very depressed about how unprepared students are when the come onto campus. He said the skill level of the average student he sees now is around a 9th grade education.

Schools boards need to start focusing on priorities and leave the social issues to parents and others.

 

[LineSkiCat14]

Parents can’t teach how loans works? You are pretty dumb for someone that thinks they have it all figured out.

And yeah, I have a 23 year old and a 15 year old.

Nice, I can't wait to start telling my clients "na, you can fix those servers". We will see how far that gets me lmfao.

I certainly CAN teach my kids how personal finance works.. I'm confident I know this better than 99% of teachers anyways. But I still expect THEM to be teaching LIFE skills. Not gender crap or anything else useless.

 

[cole854]

Schools boards need to start focusing on priorities and leave the social issues to parents and others.

Won't happen until the woke libs are removed from such boards.

 

[LowerLevelSeatA]

Exactly, and unfortunately this describes every person on Fayette County school board and the superintendent. I actually liked the superintendent when he interviewed, thought he was the best choice. I knew he was gay, but thought he would keep his lifestyle out of policy decisions. I’m good with him living his life however he wants and not imposing his lifestyle on others. Unfortunately over the past few years, his lifestyle has become more and more reflected within the school buildings and policies.

 

[roguemocha]

Parents can’t teach those skills?

You realize most parents are up to their eyeballs in credit card debit and lots of other types of debt, right? Might not be the best people to try and teach it since they either didn’t care or don’t know how it works the themselves.

 

[gamecockcat]

Parents can’t teach those skills?

Theoretically, parents can teach EVERYTHING a kid learns at school - math, science, social studies, history, etc. Why have schools at all if parents can teach kids everything they need to know?

The public school system is not the place for political ideology. It's for the 3 R's, social skills, 'life skills' (such as managing money, cooking, driving, taking responsibility, etc.). I've had this discussion with so many people who deny that the Far Left agenda includes sexualizing children. They've consistently told me it isn't happening. When you're 'teaching' gender dysphoria and sexual expression to 5 year olds, you're stepping into pedophile territory, imo. Deny it all you want but it's happening across the country and it's sickening.

 

[august-west]

Parents can’t teach those skills?

Parents can also teach their kids about what pronoun or gender their kids want to identify as, too. Instead of, you know, learning that important life skill in school.

 

[CaptainBoogerBuns]

Exactly, and unfortunately this describes every person on Fayette County school board and the superintendent. I actually liked the superintendent when he interviewed, thought he was the best choice. I knew he was gay, but thought he would keep his lifestyle out of policy decisions. I’m good with him living his life however he wants and not imposing his lifestyle on others. Unfortunately over the past few years, his lifestyle has become more and more reflected within the school buildings and policies.

Liggins is “jive-***” crazy.

 

[AIChatGPT]

Teachers and parents can teach kids not to become drug addicts too but sometimes that just doesn’t work out.


But hey, maybe some of you all were groomed to be coke addicts, adulterers, roid ragers, and busybody old ladies by your parents.

 

[catlanta33]

Reese Bobby : And the first thing you gotta learn if you're gonna be a racecar driver, is that you don't listen to losers like your know-it-all teacher here.

Schoolteacher : Okay, I think that's enough.

Reese Bobby : Your teacher wants you to go slow, and she's wrong because it's the fastest who get paid and it's the fastest who get laid.

 

[Ron Mehico]

I wasn’t taught any of that garbage in public schools growing up, which helped me become successful enough to have my kids in private school, where certainly this nonsense isn’t taught. Sorry to the public school parents but the divide for the haves vs have nots just continues to grow and grow.

 

[Laparkafan]

Disgusting - these democrats are trying to see how much they can get away with.

It’s no wonder ky public education is so poor - it’s bad enough Andy tarnished a generation of kids with the remote learning fiasco and they are lacking proper reading and math skills.

 

[Ryan Lemonds Hair]

You realize most parents are up to their eyeballs in credit card debit and lots of other types of debt, right? Might not be the best people to try and teach it since they either didn’t care or don’t know how it works the themselves.

I don't think it's that they don't know how it works it's that they have to keep up with the Joneses. If you think America doesn't have a spending problem look at how many storage facilities are popping up all over the country because we have so much crap we can't keep it all at our houses we have to rent more space to store it in.

 

[SDC8888]

“Education is teaching our children to desire the right things.”​

― Plato

 

[JumperJack]

Identify politics divides and eventually will break us. That ought to be the only argument necessary against such nonsense.

 

[Hank Camacho_rivals115797]

I wasn’t taught any of that garbage in public schools growing up, which helped me become successful enough to have my kids in private school, where certainly this nonsense isn’t taught. Sorry to the public school parents but the divide for the haves vs have nots just continues to grow and grow.

Word.

If you don't like your kindergartner learning to treat his/her/its genitals like a Mr. Potatohead doll then you should stop being poor, imo.

 

[cole854]

Why are liberals so infatuated with our children's sexual orientation/gender? What part of their deranged mindset wants to control this?

 

[Deeeefense]

I know it's hard to keep politics out of this but lets try to do so, else I'll have to move the thread. Thx.

 

[Ron Mehico]

I know it's hard to keep politics out of this but lets try to do so, else I'll have to move the thread. Thx.

You might as well post this in a “2024 presidential debate” thread my man.

 

[JonathanW_rivals]

Parents can’t teach those skills?

You could argue the same for any educational topic.
Point is they don't, in fact many come from homes where the parents don't have those skills/knowledge either.

 

[SDC8888]

Sexualizing children is not educating them.

They don't need to be "taught" anything we weren't and no earlier than we were; the primary purpose of which was to keep us from becoming parents to o early, not to make us fabulous.

 

[Tskware]

Here is what actually happened per the article:

"Being removed from the proposed policy is a ban that prevents students of all ages from learning about gender identity, gender expression, and sexual orientation."

In short, they are removing the outright ban, which means for example, such topics might be broached in high school, without fear of a teacher violating state law. But it is NOT some mandate to teach gay sex ed to kindergartners like some of you are suggesting, and which 100% of us oppose. And I cannot imagine FCPS or any school would suggest doing such a thing for grade schoolers. I know it would have been bitterly opposed by all my friends, most of whom sent their kids to the FCPS.

As an aside, I know Henry Clay offers a class for juniors and seniors on credit, leases, checking accounts, loans, etc., because I was asked to speak there a couple of years ago. And schools should offer some classes on those types of real life issues, seems important to me.

 

[PhDcat2018]

As a brand new dad of a 5-day old girl.. it will be private school 100%, at least until high-school. If I sense she's going down that path, I'll always support her. But I want her learning actual important life skills during this time.

Congrats!

 

[PhDcat2018]

That's my perspective as well. On the one hand no one should be discriminated against due to their gender identify and orientation, but I have never understood why some believe explaining these issues should be a function of the public school system.

Time spend on this takes away time spend on other more important subjects, including the basic skills of reading, writing, math, science etc. My step son is a college professor. Renctly we were discussing education and he was very depressed about how unprepared students are when the come onto campus. He said the skill level of the average student he sees now is around a 9th grade education.

Schools boards need to start focusing on priorities and leave the social issues to parents and others.

He's right. I see the same thing. Written papers read like text messages, and there's just stupid stuff being taught.

 

[bushrod1965]

There’s a huge difference between the fear mongering, culture warring rhetoric that’s being used politically around this topic and what actually occurs 99.9% of the time in school classrooms. Most families no longer look like Ward and June Cleaver. A day in the life of public schools and its students no longer looks and sounds like the 1950’s. Kids themselves initiate a multitude of comments and conversations around what their own lives and experiences are. A classroom should be a safe place of inclusion and acceptance, otherwise content and curriculum can’t be taught and learning can’t take place. The current culture war society we live in has teachers afraid to to do things such as teach truthful history due to the CRT nonsense; there’s no agenda to make students feel guilty of their whiteness but a unit on slavery will naturally elicit that response in some kids. And, there’s no agenda to “groom kids to be gay or trans”, but teachers need to have the flexibility to tell kids that not all families look the same when a teachable moment occurs so the classroom can function as a place of safety and acceptance.